Jem Britttin

Sorry but think this comment trivializes some of the good constructive posts made on here by promoters, after all this thread was aimed at promoters relating to ammount of events on in a weekend etc. So naturally they are gonna reply. As for Northants I can honestly say that for the last 5 years or so most promoters have got on well! managed not to clash and provide some different nights and an alldayer in the county. I have commemted on one local promoter, who this year has clashed directly with one other local established night and is planning to clash with another in December dont know why He clashed with the first but the excuses He has given for the other really dont hold water in my opinion.Ok I accept there was a forced change of venue and advertised dates were not available , so if you cant get dates around the advertised ones then try other months if you have to change the date then whats difference. You can always get back in sync the next year. Far from turning into a slanging match I think some positive solutions to the situation have been put forward by myself and others which have been endorsed by people, not just on the thread but also in private.I have purposely left it a few days to see if anything materialised but to date as yet, have recieved no reply or contact from this promoter concering the offer. What ever impression people get of this is up to them. I am only stating facts ...nothing else. One thing is for sure I will not rest untill I have done all I can to get satisfactory outcome for myself ,other promoters and the many people who have spoken or contacted me wondering why they have been put in a situation where its one night or the other on the 10th Dec. When they would have preffered to attend both.not just my words but the views of many I spoke to last night at a local night in Rushden atb Jem

Agree Steve, could be a good oppurtunity to put any issues to bed once and for all and benefit a charity...two positives.The offer is genuine and I will go further than that! If Kev moves his event to say early January, He and Karen will be free on the December date theoretically and are welcome to come along to the Pembo, They can do the door if they wish and bring a collection bucket for the charity, we wll encourage people to give generousley, plus they can take home the profit and any other money raised on the night so the charity gets hopefully a good ammount in December as planned , Then they get another sum in January....Hows that! Also for once Northants could be seen in a positive light and it may show promoters elswhere the way to go.It also addresses the subject matter of this thread ie too many do's on in a weekend....thats four positives now! OVER TO YOU KEV! I have even thought of a title for your do if you move it "The late late Christmas Cream Cracker" atb

Sorry Kev but no one has said that the clashing was the only reason for the likely ending of the Pembo , please read the posts carefully...more like the final straw in a list of other incidents and not forgetting your self proclaimed war with us and whatever we promote!. Let me ask you a question if the boot was on the other foot how loud would you squeal.. pretty damn loud I know. I have read your excuses/reasons for having to take the 10th and quite frankly if dates were not available in December why not do it in January , remember you changed your venue. We checked your original dates When We booked 10th to aviod your event so the owness was on you.The fact is you knew the Pembo was on the 10th and you chose to clash with it ...didnt even have the decencey to contact us and explain ...read into that what you wish. Ref. promising the money to the charity in Dec, dont wash mate, I am a committee member of a registered charity (swivelclub.com) no 1138750 check out the website we donate to major charities as well and can confirm the is no pressure to donate money immiedately. We raised £500 for crazy hats cancer appeal and £500 for Help for heros through our music festival on 27th August this year, help for heros got there money approx a month later and crazy hats had their cheque this week (Monday) I know cos I was at the cheque presentation. I sincerely hope plenty of money is raised for your good cause its just that through your poor organisation the charity could be down on the ammount because it is a fact that many people will attend the pembo but would have attended this.. a phone call or email would of been nice TELL YOU WHAT KEV YOU CHANGE YOUR DATE AND I PROMISE THAT ANY PROFIT WE MAKE AT THE PEMBO IN DECEMBER WE WILL DONATE TO YOUR CHARITY ALL COSTS ETC. WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU TOO SEE AND YOU CAN CHOOSE AN INDEPENDANT PERSON TO TAKE THE MONEY ON OUR DOOR

Remember to turn it to + 4 on the decks Len ...turns into a stomper then....been in the back of my box for years ..not really mate thanks for the tip ...great Lenny reactivation

At a recent reunion night I played Earl Wright . Thumb a ride on uk capitol ..........I choose death by firing squad if thats ok

Two good posts Chris and Steve , lots of insight and some very salient points raised. Steve dont be put off trying your night out at the "Snooks" You have the use of a great venue plus the support of most in the area , wether you do 2 or 200 I wish you the best of luck and will support and help if needed plus attend when I can. Chris I take on board the issues raised ref. the Pembo ie poor managment , bar staff etc. and yes you are right all the things make you wonder wether its worth carrying on sometimes and i do accept the following rules if you are promoting. Rule 1.Remember No one asked you to promote an event. 2.Expect criticism, moans from customers and venue manager/owners ..you cant please all the people etc. 3. You will get other promoters bitching And so on you get the picture . I know you have been there mate, all in a days work really and part of the job so to speak , yes you may have a point sometimes a venue runs its course and comes to a natural end. Accept all of that and am happy to move on as you know have plenty of future projects (not all N.Soul related) to be getting on with. However the direct clashing subject takes it to another level. bear in mind in 5 years of promoting in the area this is the first time i can remember another promoter ever doing it. This on the back of other related incidents confirms it is personal in my opinion.... Gonna move on now......but would ask people to remember this. When this promoter comments on the over inflated! looksback fo the December event in question. I guarantee it will include the following,or similar phrases sentances. "great night! well attended considering there was another local event on" "good ammount raised for the charity or cause". In advance all I ask is that people understand it could have been better attended and more dosh could have been raised for the cause. atb. over n out Jem

Such..Matters should maybe discussed elsewhere However that incident and others plus the latest direct clash , has lead us to seriousley consider the future for the Pembo , its looking like December's event with Soul Sam will be the last, if people are gonna stoop that low then we aint playing, we have all got better stuff to do, good news is that Len Dopson is jumping back on board for this one in an effort to send the Pembo off with a bang and help get support for Soul Sam who, when we first asked was reluctant to visit Northants due to a certain run in with a Northants promoter. however in His words He had heard good reports about the venue so said yes!. Ref. the event that is clashing, what I find distasteful is that it is billed as a charity night, nothing wrong in that very worthy but surely if you genuinely wanted to earn as much as possible for this,why would you compromise the ammount you could raise by clashing . I know of at least fifty people that are attending the Pembo from the Rushden/Wellingboro area that would have also attended this event if on another night and other dates are available at this venue! Being a commitee member for a registered charity myself, working hard along with others for charitable local causes.this is a subject very close to my heart,so to see a good cause maybe not fully benefit really angers me atb Jem

Thing is Nidge a few of those names mentioned DJd at the last Wellingboro Alldayer where the promoter dosent have a problem with one of His djs at least openly playing boots of just about everything. Dont know who you are referring to ref others in the area but i guarantee as a percentage more ovo has been played at the Pembo than the cracker and yet Kev will dj at the Alldayer but has not set foot in the Pembo for years which is on His doorstep and has featured some really good djs with some of the best collections in the country...seems to be some double standards going on here?

Have been involved in promoting events in the Northants area for the last 6 years and despite some of the bad press the area gets (mainly on here from a few individuals) up untill recentley I thought local promoters managed to communicate quite well. not much clashing and events spread around. However it only takes someone to come along and put an event on too close to another as happened locally a while back and everybody is a loser ...attendees dont want it as it comprimises the events they can afford to attend and promoters get the arse cos numbers can be down. Tried making this point a few years back on here and basically got accused of being jealous of another event which was not the case.....funny, that event has since finished after a short run but we are still going so . I suppose the lesson is be respectful to attendees and other promoters and right will out. All that said I notice that another long established local promoter has decided to clash directly with the next event at the Pemberton Centre in December (Pembo dates for 2011 been posted up for over a year) and this event only added recentley, events are within an 8 mile radius and musically will be very similar...ridiculous in my opinion ....but hey dont say we didnt try.

So what you are saying then is ...do as I say, not as I do/did... a bit like the reformed smoker syndrome ? Kev in a short space of time you have adopted a new set of values which is fine, but the fact of the matter is that you built the cracker playing boots all be it naively you may say, The point I am making is ....lets say another person like you starts a local soulnight now and plays a few boots but is heart is in the right place...would it be fair in your eyes to adopt the zero tollerance stance you now take. Before anyone jumps on the" having a go at Kev " thing ....for the record despite differences we may have cos He listens to much to gossip . I have in the past put Kev on to records etc (ovo) . He will be the first to admit that his knowledge of the music is limited and where i could I have tried to point Him in the right direction and share information about records (can I have the majestees back Kev?). Just seems that if we are gonna persecute people people that harshly we may throw out the baby with the bath water as the saying may go.

Phhhew.....is that really it now mate my first post so that should do it

Funny thing is though Kev if you had abided by that opinion a few years ago you probably wouldnt be a dj/promotor now...cos in the first few years of the "cracker" you played and owned mainly "boots" now you are "V.C.Correct" maybe you should start a self help group for people who play or feel they might want to dj with boots, so they can become vinyl cool as well...atb

pmd you

Had not heard this before untill a couple of weeks ago ...agree awesome track and a real bargain I thought I had done well at 25 quid .....DAM IT

Got this on a tape from the early nineties Len, which contained some of Sam's stuff including the Anne Sexton c/u etc. so could be right ? I will dig it out for you.................. think this thread is over .............it is now !

Take 2 crossover tunes before bedtime for the next week this should help rid you of this affliction

Yum Yums defo way out of tune,,Sapphires quality production...

No taste anyway! buy the Sapphires version (original) for fraction of the cost....superior version, with possibly my favourite intro of all time

Agree love this track , very underated and a" buy it for pennies" record.