Funky 4 Corners

I recently realised that Lightnin' Hopkins put out two UK EMI LPs with the same title but totally different recordings. In 1962 Stateside issued Lightnin' Strikes # 10031 and then in 1966 EMI's Verve Folkways issued an LP of the same title #5014. A couple of years after that the Stateside LP was reissued on Joy, the President subsidiary. Are there any other records that have the same title by the same artist from the same company but are different?

Some great memories on here especially from the West Riding area. Of places not mentioned there was the Place in Wakefield, Earlsheaton YC near Dewsbury, the New Marquee in Leeds, the Hub Barnsley and the Intro, at Morley Town Hall. What were mainstays of Soul however were the various Mecca Locarno's all over the place, Wakefield, New Mecca and Spinning Disc, Leeds. Was the Silver Blades in Bradford a Mecca?

As a star struck teenager from a Yorks pit village I was always interested in the London Club scene after watching Ready Steady Go!, reading stuff in the music papers, Mod Monthly and day trips on Saturdays courtesy of the Leeds United way coaches to take in Tiles etc. I moved south 40 years ago only to find that very, very few `locals` were still interested in Soul, or what I called Soul anyway. Over the years I have asked plenty of blokes my age about the Club scene and some did go to the various Clubs mentioned on this thread but overwhelmingly they would frequent local venues in Dartford / Gravesend / Bromley / Bexleyheath etc. Going to West End Clubs was considered a treat - a bit like people going from my home town Wakefield to Manchester clubs. The south east has always had excellent train links with central London so I don't think it was distance, from what I can gather it was more a case of them `entering the big league` with trepidation. Plenty have recalled a rather hostile atmosphere at the Flamingo and Scene for example. I'd be interested to see the membership address's from those Clubs, I guess that most would be from with in the M25 in today's terms.

Boba, I'd really appreciate that if you could. If you don't want to post it here my email is keithsally50@hotmail.com Thanks

There are a couple of omissions from the above list, (sorry it's so badly laid out). Double Soul 1044 Bernie Hayes `Tribute to a Black Woman` Pts 1 & 2. Jerry O 110 Tom & Jerrio `Boogaloo` / ` Boomerang. Pameline 2010 Detroit Executives `Cool Off`. Regarding the many gaps - Boo Ga Loo 103, 105, 109, 111. Jerry O 102, 108. Double Soul 100 - 107, 109, 111 and possibly some on Larry O, I'd love to hear if any of you guys know any? There was a different Boogaloo label from Louisiana, it has a four digit numbering system. Larry Blasingaine (almost certainly behind Larry O) came to the UK in '75 backing Jackie Wilson and when they appeared at Colwyn bay Pier Bob Foster and Ritchie Andrews spoke to him and he knew details of every Chicago 45 they put before him. I'm trying to contact him. I'm calling Sammy Kaplan this week so will report back if he can answer a few questions.

Can anyone on the forum team condense the layout? I uploaded it as a tight spread sheet. Thanks

I've done a bit of digging and I'm pretty confident and agree with the earlier suggestion that the Larry O label was owned by Larry Blasingaine. Larry's name appears on the Bronzettes' 45, also he was Larry of Larry & the Hippies. He came to the UK in the mid 70s as guitarist in Jackie Wilson's band and my pal Bob Foster spoke to him when they performed at Colwyn Bay. I'm trying to get his number as I'd love to ask him a few Qs. A couple of years ago a previously `lost` tape of The Jackson Five's first session for Steel Town turned up and Larry is credited as guitarist. Below are tracks on 45s that I know of that can be directly connected to Jerry O / Sammy Kaplan. The Sandy Nelson, Karate Boo Ga Loo is simply a cover but the Les McCann version on his Bucket O Grease LP is played over a genuine Lovelane track. ABC 10638 Tom & Jerrio Boo Ga Loo Boomerang ABC 10704 Tom & Jerrio Great Goo Ga Moo Ga Come On And Love Me ABC 10787 Tom & Jerrio Oolya-Choo Bacardi (unissued) Boo Ga Loo 101 Mary Johnson I’m Tired Inst Boo Ga Loo 102 Jerry O Karate Boogaloo The Pearl Boo Ga Loo 104 Jerry O Popcorn Boo Ga Loo Pt 2 106 Same master as Sherwood 106 Boo Ga Loo 107 Jerry O Get A Line The Funky Chicken Yoke Boo Ga Loo 108 Ideals The Mighty Lover Dancing In The USA Boo Ga Loo 110 Jerry O Scratch My Back Soul Pearl Boo Ga Loo 112 Green Grunchons All Stars Guys & Gals Bounce Ode To Wash Allen Girls Boo Ga Loo 466 Jerry O (Funky) Four Corners Soul Lover (master #106) Boo Ga Loo 467 Milton Jefferson Cole Slaw Boo Ga Loo 468 Mighty Lovers Mighty Lover Soul Blues Bright Star 500 Bernie Hayes Calling On My Buddy’s Soul Pearl Double Soul 107 E Rodney Jones & Larry & The Hippies Chicken On Down Right On Right On Double Soul 108 Bronzettes Moments (Beggin) Baby Don’t Leave Me Double Soul 110 E Rodney Jones Pushing The Buck Soul Sister Double Soul 112 Scoop Sanders I Am The Boss Pt 2 Double Soul 464 Soulmates Sock-In-Soul Jerry O 101 Plookie McCline Gorilla Walk Uncle Willie Jerry O 101 Charles (Plookie) McCline You Conquored Me Say That You Care Jerry O 103 Willie Logan & Plaids You Conquored Me Say That You Care Jerry O 104 Bobby Rush Let Me Love You Some Day Jerry O 105 Dukays The Jerk Mo Jerk Jerry O 106 Dukays Mellow Fezneckey Sh Nuf M.F. Jerry O 106 Mutt & Jeffo (labels stuck over Sherwood 106) Soul L O V E R Soul Blues Jerry O 107 Maurice Miller Trio Karachi Fly Me To The Moon Jerry O 110 Paul Tate Fool For You Save Your Love Jerry O 111 Tom & Jerroo Do The Boo Ga Loo Pt 2 Jerry O 112 Joe Berry (Do) The Wang Dang Do Larry O 101 Charles (Plookie) McCline She Got Another Man You Conquored Me Larry O 404 Johnny Moore What More Can I Do Let’s Get It Together Sherwood Production 106 Mutt & Jeffo Soul L O V E R Soul Blues Shout 217 Jerry O Karate Boo Ga Loo The Pearl Shout 225 Jerry O Boo Ga Loo Push Push Shout 228 Jerry O Afro Twist Time (Um Gow Wow) Dance What Cha Wanna Soul Hawk 002 Third Party Such A Soul Says Pt 1 Pt 2 Volt 4032 Bernie Hayes Tribute To A Black Woman Pt 1 Pt 2 Volt 4047 Bernie Hayes Cool Strut Pt 1 Pt 2 Wand 11222 Jerry O Funky Football Wang Dang Do Westbound 160 E Rodney Jones Right on Right on Football White Whale 282 Jerry O (Funky) Four Corners Soul Lover White Whale 296 Jerry O Huckle Buck Soul Sister White Whale 318 Jerry O There Was A Time Funky Charge

Boo ga loo #103, Joe Masters, Just be Yourself / This is Why the End Must Begin

Hmmm....lots to contemplate here, thank you guys. If anyone is interested I did a long Jerry O story over two issues of Manifesto a couple of years ago, issues # 99 & 100. Chalky, do you have a number for that soulmates 45 please? Just listened to it on youtube, great. Kris, also just listened to Cool Strut, unmistakable Jerry O in-put eh. DMC - I'm now gonna hunt down that Multon Jefferson, Joe Berry and Scoop Saunders, thank you.

Hi Boba. 2.30am and got something on my mind - that Double Soul 45 was also on Volt. It's Bernie Hayes, `Tribute to a Black Woman` pts 1 & 2. Mine's on Volt #4032. The Double Shot one has a typo Barnie Hayes #1044. Also, I used to have `The Soul Pearl` by him on Bright Star but if I recall it was just a version rather than having any production links. I'd also forgotten about that White Whale 45 # 282 `Funky Four Corners` / `Soul Lover`. Do you know what that alternative Dukays flip is? Thanks for the 106 dead wax info, I think I need to look at them all don't I! With all of these grey area releases that Ian refers to, I am amazed that `Oolya - Choo` never made it onto a 45 or CD.

Hi Kris. I too am sucked in by that odd track. I guess it goes to show just how amateur many of what we revere as iconic tracks were. Somewhere on soulfuldetroit.com Ralph Terrana gives a graphic account of just how crazy the Jerry O sessions were; so a few mike switches not on must have been the least of his worries.

Hi Ian, I don't envy your task, in the mid 70's Tom De Pierro's first venture into the Motown vaults in LA uncovered the backing track to `Boo Ga Loo` and the story of ownership then came to light for us outside of the US music industry loop. Some forty years after that the Funk Brothers had mobilised and were touring the world and belatedly and rightly reaping some benefit and credit from their previously often unacknowledged efforts and when I reviewed a CD that contained an instrumental version of there's a `Ghost in My House`, the next I know I received a phone call from their lawyers insisting I tell them the source of the CD for royalty purposes. What I'm getting at here is, surely anyone of possibly scores of folk who own the rights to many, many tracks that were recorded in south Michigan and know and have possibly even disclosed at some point that the Motown backing boys were behind them will now be keeping very, very quiet.

I don't know anything about the Scoop Saunders, what is that please? Also, something I may have mentioned before but in the early 80s I think that Ady Croasdell was contemplating a Jerry O LP, he had some Jerry O fan club T shirts printed as I think I saw him in Oxford Street wearing one, Ady might be able to add a bit? Bye the way, images of many of these titles can be viewed on the groovesvilleusa blog, under Jerry O

Hi Thanks for taking so much time to check those titles out. Here's what I have with what I consider to be a direct connection with Jerry O in addition to the two Larry O 45s. They aren't in chronological order however. Tom & Jerrio. Boo Ga Loo / Boomerang, ABC-Paramount 10638 Tom & Jerrio, Great Go Ga Mooga / Come on and Love Me, ABC- Paramount 10704 Tom & Jerrio `Oolya-Choo` / `Bacardi` ABC 10787 (Unissued?) Jerry O, Karate Boo Ga Loo / The Pearl, Boo Ga Loo 102 Jerry O, Popcorn-Boo-Ga-Loo PT1 / PT2, Bo Ga Loo 104 Jerry O, The Funky Chicken Yoke, Boo Ga Loo 107 Ideals, The Mighty Lover / Dancing in the USA, Boo Ga Loo 108 Jerry O, Scratch My Back / Soul Pearl, Boo Ga Loo 110 Green Grunchons All-Stars, Guys and Gals Bounce, Boo Ga Loo 112 Jerryo, (Funky) Four Corners / Soul Lover, Boo Ga Loo 466 Plookie McCline, The Gorilla Walk / Uncle Willy, Jerry O 101 Willie Logan & the Plaids, Say You Care / You Conquored Me, Jerry O 103 Bobby Rush, Someday / Let Me Love You, Jerry O 104 Dukays, The Jerk / Mo' Jerk, Jerry O 105 Dukays, Mellow - Fezneckey / Sho Nuf M.F. Jerry O 106 Mutt & Jeffo, Soul L O V E R / Soul Blues, Jerry O 106 ( white labels stuck over the Sherwood Production 45) Maruice Miller Trio, Fly Me To The Moon / Karachi, Jerry O 107 (800 A & 801 B in dead wax) Paul Tate, Fool For You / Save Your Love, Jerry O 110 Tom & Jerroo, (Papa Chew) Do The Boo Ga Loo pt 1 / pt 2, Jerry O 111 Tom & Jerryo, Soul L O V E R / I'm Tired, Sherwood Production 106 Jerry O, Karate Boo Ga Loo / The Pearl, Shout 217 Jerry O, Funky Boo Ga Loo / Push, Push, Shout 225 Jerry O. Afro-Twist Time (Um-Gpw-Wow) / Dance What Cha Wanna, Shout 228 Jerry O, Funky Football / Wang Dang Do, Wand 11222 Jerry O, Soul Sister / Huckle Buck, White Whale 296 Jerry O, There Was a Time / Funky Charge, White Whale 318 E Rodney Jones & Larry & the Hippies Band, Right On - Right On (Sex Machines), Westbound 160 E Rodney Jones & Larry & the Hippies Band, Right On - Right On / Chicken On Down, Double Soul 107 Bronzettes, Moments / (Beggin') Baby Don't Leave Me, Double Soul 108 Third Party, Such a Soul Says pt 1 / pt 2, Soul Hawk 002 I've never seen a Double Soul label listing, so there may be other connections on there. There are a couple of apparently unissued tracks on a couple of CDs of Tom & Jerry O I have. I spoke to Sammy Kaplan about five years ago but he was very cagey about things but they do have a website that used to have each track of Karate Boo Ga Loo isolated and you can hear them, www.lovelanemusic.com Well, that's about the limit of my info.

In my life long quest for all things Jerry O, can anyone shed any light on the Larry O label from Chicago please? I have two releases on it - Charles (Plookie) McCline. `You Conqured Me` / `She Got Another Man` #101 and Johnny Moore `What Can a Man Do` / `Let's Get it Together` # 404. The former is clearly connected to Jerry Murray as it shows him as co-writer and also producer and the graphics are the same as his own Jerry O label, also Plookie had a 45 on there `Gorilla Walk` #101 and finally the A side was issued on Jerry O #103 but as Willie Logan & the Plaids. The Johnny Moore 45 has all of the hall marks of the Fairshake / 4 Brothers set up, that Bright Star big sound and familiar graphics. They appear to be different animals but are obviously connected in some way. Any ideas please? Bye the way I'm still looking for details of Jerry O Records #102, 108 & 109. Also the ultra illusive Tom & Jerrio `Oolya-Choo` / `Bacardi` ABC 10787 Thanks

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A bit late but have been busy this week. As an insomniac I am a BBC Radio 5 `Up All Night` regular and so looked forward to last Sunday's show about Northern Soul. In my opinion the show was a uncharacteristic shambles. Richard of course saved the day with his knowledge, enthusiasm and professional approach. Dotton Adibiu, The presenter is normally excellent and good at thinking on his feet but on this occasion his researchers really let him down. The logistics were poor; Richard and Pete in Salford and Dutton in London. Dotton could not get his head around which roles each expert was picked for and typical of how the BBC have handled Northern Soul over the last 40 years, they chose re-recorded versions of tracks such as Earl Van Dyke's 6X6. Much of the discussion revolved around the original and re-vamped Twisted Wheel Club which I enjoyed of course but the programme did little to inform the public about what NS is. Roger Eagle and the recent book about him seemed to be interpreted as the roots of NS. Roger hated the up-tempo Soul scene, Mods and pills and these did in fact inspire him to leave the Wheel. I guess that the on-going ignorance of our national media is not such a bad thing as its constant misrepresentation and lack of understanding of NS prolongs its mystique.