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300 must have been swallowed up quickly and then more were ordered?

I'm wondering if Dave had more pressed, poss 1000 in total? But on the other hand a person I know who was a member of TMAS from '63 onward said she was never offered one and never knew about them until years after.

I'm in the midst of compiling an account of TMAS and the Motown acts that came to the UK during its era (1963-66). I have a question about the free `Greetings from Hitsville` disc that was sent to the UK in late Sept '64. Motown's log shows that 300 were pressed "to help raise funds for the fan club". Here's the Q - did members have to buy them? If so how much. If not how did Dave Godin select those to receive them as TMAS membership was in excess of 300 at that time. Lastly, there were mint copies around into the 80s, where from? Thanks

Hi Okeydoke Dave's dad worked as a roundsman for United Dairies, 35 West Street, Bexleyheath. I am currently writing an account of the Tamla Motown Appreciation Society and similar details about Dave's background will be covered.

What happened to Phil Ian? I knew him from when my parents lived in Ossett, he had a passion for Punk when it first surfaced.

I can testify to Maidstone's coffers, back in the mid 70's the Tuesday market had a stall with lots of British stuff on, many in company sleeves.

Apart from the folk that bought them when on catalogue, a lot surfaced in the late 60s / early 70s as deletions, overstock, warehouse clear outs etc. Phil Lynskey from Horbury near Wakefield who ran a list called Soul House asked a record shop in North London around 1975 what stock they had out back and he was presented with about a dozen unsold Bill Black, Little Queenie. The Coop on Deansgate Manchester outed scores of classics around '69.

Did a bit on my blog about Bob. https://www.groovesvilleusa.com/blog/?p=1681

Does anyone know if with Red Atlantic for example, the three prong centre discs were pressed at the same time as the solid centre issues? If not, Willie Tee must have been manufactured on three occasions inc the 70s issue.

I wanted to bid on a 45 on US ebay and noticed that the shipping cost was $19, I asked the seller in Texas if he could drop it to $12. That would be the usual USPS 1st Class pkg International with E-Delcon Service (Tracking) but he refused and said he only ships with Ebay GPS. All I know is that he lost a sale.

I requested it with the checkout girl, Olga in Gravesend Aldi but she said they don't play any music or have heating in their stores.

https://www.groovesvilleusa.com/blog/?p=1716 This is a link to a piece I wrote about Richard and his shop a couple of years ago. Much of the content has been updated and corrected by this thread but Richard did take time to reply when he came across it.

There's a decent series of three programmes on at the moment; 1) Twisted Wheel. 2) Torch. 3) Wigan Casino. added by site can listen to first two episodes via http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04vs34g/episodes/guide Tap to view this Soul Source News/Article in full

Re a Twisted Wheel play list, Phil Scott and I did some painstaking research in the 90s and included one in CENtral 1179. BUT these were records that were popular i.e. played regularly. As soon as Imports became more attainable, roughly '69 onwards, DJs such as Brian Philips might spin a record a couple of times and you'd never seem to hear it again such as Derek Martin `If You Go` and Willie Mitchell `30 60 90`.

May be not a great example but in the early 80s the Japanese bought loads of old manufacturing equipment from Levi's in the States, anything from rivet makers to sewing machines to letter presses for labels, also weaving looms from cone denim mills. Their various repros are very hard to detect indeed and only distinguishable because of modern washing instruction labels that can be removed.

From around '69 modernist type clothes were not really worn at the Wheel, there was a fairly standard `uniform` of mohair suit jacket, over a Ben Sherman, jeans (501, Wrangler, Lee) and loafers or brogues that did echo it however. But hair was getting longer and fashions more varied often what ever was sold in places such as Ivor's Boutique on Brown St. M/c. (Pete Stringfellow unsuccessfully tried a fusion of flower power and Soul at the Mojo). At the last night at the Wheel a few of the mid 60s guys came along in suits and ties and looked rather out of place. There were a few import 45s in Barry Ancell's and then Jeff King started selling them from a box in the club around '70. Brian's lists were a mixture of US and UK if I recall. This will all go down in history as a non-London / southeast situation, which is largely true, but the vast majority of northern / midlands teenagers had also moved on from the Soul days of the 60s to Rock etc. What has never successfully been explained is the chemistry that bucked the massive pop music industry of the day and effectively invented its own scene.

In my opinion there is an almost unbroken thread between the two scenes except on the clothes front. There are still a few mid 60s folk around who still seek not only rare Soul but exclusive clothes too. Simons shop in Covent Garden was a mecca for old Modernists who craved rare USA shirts, shoes, jackets etc. Who then went onto the 6T's do's before they became too known. I've been to a couple of weekend Soul do's in Llandudno for example where the original scene and ideals still prevail. Also, when I saw the Impressions at the Barbican there were still guys with their HMV LPs, Bass Weegun's and Brooks Brothers shirts.

I have vague recollections of it either being south of Pittsburgh or possibly North Maryland.

This is from an old trip to US, poss Pennsylvania, any suggestions? circa 1990. Area code now seems defunct.

Clive Richardson was, possibly still is one of the best Soul journalists in the world (IMO) among other things he edited Shout magazine that ran for about 120 issues from around 1968. Google him. By the `Soul establishment` I meant folk such as Clive, Tony Cummings etc. mainly London based that wrote for the music press, worked at record companies or programmed the BBC music policy. They influenced which records a label would release or what went onto radio station playlists. Dave Godin was an exception, he recognised their stranglehold and did something about shifting the sphere of influence to the north.

Back in the days of stompers only, if I flipped a 45 over and in the first two seconds it didn't explode I never played it....oh dear what an ignorant oaf! Today, probably over 30 years since I bought it I played the B side to the Marvellows `I Do` called `My Heart` - what a gem! Any similar admissions out there?

The quirks and zany detail involved in any underground cult are by definition illogical. Is it possible that as boots / pressings were an integral part of the scene in the 70s that folk new to the scene today want them for authenticity, possibly along with Spencer's trousers and Adidas bags.

Although I never went to Wigan I was up with what was being played and also aware of the way that `Wigan records` were ridiculed by the `Soul establishment` based mainly in the southeast. But I must admire Clive Richardson for his later recognition of some of the amazing sounds that were discovered and played there once he had allowed the dust to settle. As we know, the critics at the time were far too keen to pick out the small minority of sounds of a Pop nature and announce that they were typical of the playlist. I for one think that the Flock and Jades for example are top notch sounds that have stood the test of time what ever their category.

I've had a soundburger for sometime now and it's given me great service. Used to put panic into the US customs when they scanned my baggage. The company still have a UK base in Leeds if I recall but they don't stock spares. US ebay is the best place for drive belts, stylus etc.