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it's on brent. why am I the only person remembering it?

Mr. Vincent, I think... About the same time as Bye Bye Baby - Patti Austin (?)

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the elliusions - you didn't have to leave

lovells - here come the heartaches...

don't want to fart in church here as I never attended said venue but the shamettes was hammered, and I mean hammered, by soul sam at st.ives throughout 77. I hated it, as I did his other turkey of the time, the camp 'marching' .

I'll always associate the gallop vocal with st.ives 'cos I heard it there before I heard it at wigan. And wasn't yate post 77? most of my mates went down there 78 thru 79. I couldn't be arsed and lived to regret it, obviously. other st.ivo records for me were the sublime yvonne vernee 'just like you did me' and the bizarre french fries 'dance a la musique'. time and place...

I think Stoned Love was well after the Haight-Ashbury 'scare', a good three years, so by rights it shouldn't have been on the CD. The sentiments in the song (in my opinion) speak of a greater love, a love between the races/nations as opposed to war, strife, terror etc. I think it's a message of hope for a better world rather than one of free love, drugs, generational angst etc. The reference to the 'man on whose shoulders the world must depend' is especially poignant. Great song...

just shows how seriously f***ed up some people on this scene are, quite frankly. so much for brotherhood, togetherness etc.

I've turned something up on Martin's Box site. An article on a St.Ives March 1979 all-dayer where Soul Sam is sort of credited with spinning it, along with don ray, the magnetics and the sharpetts. https://martins_box.tripod.com/id27.htm

Yes. A Moody Blues song it appears...

Cheers Dean!

I went to a bar last night where I was treated to chuck jackson's any day now and gene chandler's 'I'm just a fool for you' followed by psyche stuff like love, the pretty things etc. The dj also played chapter five, which as I said on another thread has been lapped up by the psyche/freakbeat crowd. as I was listening I remembered the dry well thing and thought how apt it would have sounded it that setting. my question is who played it first. was it a winstanley thing? I remember it as late 70's, possibly 1979 or 1980.

100% agree. I met Ralph McTell at Cambridge Folk in the early 90s, a most unassuming bloke. we sat backstage in the company of one or two of the dubliners and watched him do one blind blake, mississippi john hurt number after another. the folkies just wanted to hear folk club standards like 'streets of london', which he commented on when he came off stage. john martyn definitely had soul, tons of it, a fabulous musician. solid air is incredible. van morrison's caledonian soul orchestra years are great to revisit from time to time though his stuff over the last 20 years or so all sounds the same to me, with very few exceptions. this thread is going to have the purists out in numbers. brace thyself!!

Well you have surprised me not upset me. I thought people travelled 100s of miles in the Mecca/Torch/Cats era to hear sounds exclusive to those venues. In my hometown we went to the local pop disco on a tuesday night and the lads (gary spencer, smudge smith and paul donnelly) would take their boxes and hand records for the DJ to spin. These records were the ones they'd bought from selectadisc and soul bowl that week. The pop DJs hated this interruption and couldn't wait to get back to playing baby love or sugar baby love. we also had a fairground, but we wouldn't hear this stuff on the waltzers there, more like alvin stardust followed by jean genie followed by the ojays. rhyl must have been a pretty special place back then. would its proximity to blackpool have anything to do with it?

barnaby bye. christ, I'd forgotten that one. Gross record. Were they the Alessi Brothers? I can't see it being banned at wigan as it was massive everywhere, particularly at cleethorpes, kettering, peterborough, st.ives etc..

Not strictly true. The Soul Source homepage clearly states 'Soul Source - Rare and Northern Soul'. The majority of the people (on here) that came onto this scene were drawn by rare, exclusive records, stuff that you couldn't hear in the charts. I was more interested in Time's A Wasting, Try A Little Harder, I'm Satisfied With You, Crying Over You etc than all that stuff coming out of Philly in 1973-4.

One can learn to appreciate vintage 60's & 70's Soul in the same way that one can learn to appreciate other forms of music that come with a scene and in that sense NS is not alone, is it? There's no doubt that the continental mod scene was the initial catalyst for people first embracing NS outside the UK, but they have since moved on. At events like Bamberg, Soul4Real, Runaway Love etc, the emphasis is firmly on 70s & 80s and people tend to dress 'normally' as opposed to the 60s orientated events, featuring 'white dancefloors and black dancefloors' (gasp) which is where you'll see the mods and swirlies in their hundreds and sometimes thousands (Gij³n). The age range at all of these events, I'd say, is between 18 & 40, which is quite a wide 'church' if you think about it. Anybody over 50 would probably feel 'conspicous by his presence' in this environment.

I think the lyric takes a swipe at the blue ridge mountain shenandoah river bliss john denver describes in his song. The lyric is pretty explicit about 'too much killin' and too many wars' etc. Grand Funk Railroad were massive in the 70s, particularly in America, and I seem to remember their name on rock festival bills in the UK. High Voltage give the song a ghetto reading in my opinion, either way it's a great track. Wonderful pulsing bass, Soulful vocal and blaring horns. I don't remember it from M's, more of a main hall jobbie for me.

I loved this record then and now. This was a Searling spin if I remember right. Ms Washburn's vocal is superb and the lyrics pretty in tune with the times. Protest Soul!!

It's short for psychedelia, you know, bands with names like the screamin' fire hydrants, the chocolate subway etc...

I'm confused now. Could it be worse than Gypsy - Dry Well? That was pure psyche, surely. And the Seven Dwarfs...? And the simply dreadful Hey Little Wayout Girl? I was a full time paid up member of the SP back then.

As has been said many times before on here, contemporary music has always been played on the scene, but it was usually stuff that had blanked stateside. We were/are a rare soul scene and as such a lot of people would like it to stay that way. I don't think the Soul Police really enter into it.

Yes, Sharon is superb.

Get yerself down to an Untouchables event in the smoke or the EuroYeYe in Spain & you'll find out...