Dave Rimmer

Ah, I thought you were talking about the Abnak release not the Jetstar one. Anyway, here's the full discography. It still doesn't answer the question of what was on the flip side of Abnak 117 though. Bobby Patterson (born 13-March-1944 in Dallas, Texas) Abnak 112 - You Just Got To Understand / Till You Give In - 1966 Abnak 117 - You've Just Got To Understand / ? - 1967 Jetstar 107 - If I Didn't Have You / What's Your Problem Baby - 1966 Jetstar 108 - Till You Give In / Long Ago - 1967 Bobby Patterson and The Mustangs (members Bobby Patterson (vocals), Andrew Jones (guitar), Michael Fugett (bass), Timothy McNeely (keyboards and trombone), Bobby Simpson (saxophone), Bill Thompson (trumpet) and Ronald Brewster (drums)) Jetstar 109 - Let Them Talk / Soul Is Our Music - 1967 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl) Jetstar 110 - I'm Leroy - I'll Take Her / Sock Some Lovin' At Me - 1968 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl) Jetstar 111 - Broadway Ain't Funky No More / I Met My Match - 1968 (promo issues came in coloured vinyl) Jetstar 112 - The Good Ol' Days / Don't Be So Mean - 1968 Bobby Patterson Jetstar 113 - Sweet Taste Of Love / Busy, Busy Bee - 1968 (promo issues came in yellow vinyl) Jetstar 114 - T. C. B. Or T. Y. A. / What A Wonderful Night For Love - 1969 Jetstar 115 - My Thing Is Your Thing (Come Get It) / Keeping It In The Family - 1969 (promo copies came in yellow vinyl) Jetstar 116 - My Baby's Coming Back To Me / What A Wonderful Night For Love - 1969 (promo issued came in orange vinyl) Jetstar 117 - My Baby's Coming Back To Me / Guess Who - 1969 Jetstar 118 - Trial Of Mary Maguire / The Knockout Power Of Love - 1970 Jetstar 119 - If A Man Ever Loved A Woman (Baby I Love You) / You Taught Me How To Love - 1970 Jetstar 121 - I'm In Love With You / Married Lady - 1970 Paula 352 - Right On Jody / If You Took A Survey - 1971 Paula 362 - She Don't Have To See You (To See Right Through You) / How Do You Spell Love (M. O. N. E. Y.) - 1972 Paula 379 - It Takes Two To Do Wrong / Take Time To Know The Truth - 1973 Paula 386 - I Get My Groove From You / What Goes Around, Comes Around - 1973 Paula 388 - If Love Can't Do It (It Can't Be Done) / I'm In The Wrong - 1973 Granite 536 - If He Hadn't Slipped And Got Caught / Same - 1976 Granite 536 - If He Hadn't Slipped And Got Caught / I Got To Get Over It - 1976 All Platinum 2371 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I'll Take Care Of You - 1977 All Platinum 2371 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I Got A Suspicion - 1977 Paula 458 - How Do You Spell Love / Recipe For Peace - 198? Proud 100 - I Can Help You Get Even With Him / I Got To Get Over - ? Bobby Story (Bobby Patterson) Proud 102 - Right Place, Wrong Time / I Got A Suspicion - 1982 12" Malaco 1210 - Groove Me / Groove Me Some Mo - 1983 Unissued on Vinyl If I Didn't Know Better - appeared in the U. K. on the 1991 Kent Cd "Bobby Patterson - Taking Care Of Business" CDKEND 098 Who Wants To Fall In Love - appeared in the U. K. on the 1991 Kent Cd "Bobby Patterson - Taking Care Of Business" CDKEND 098.

Ah Yes, but what do The Magnetics cook on their "GRIL", Sausages Anyway, I tried the tactic of playing the Magnetics to entice people through the door way back in post # 8

As far as I'm aware, it's the same flip side as the other release (Just worded slightly differently), it's the 'Till You Give In' side that is different. Bobby Patterson (born 13-March-1944 in Dallas, Texas) Abnak 112 - You Just Got To Understand / Till You Give In - 1966 Abnak 117 - You've Just Got To Understand / ? - 1967

Anyone you offers me a booking

Yeah, there are probably less than twenty copies of The Magnetics on Ra-Sel, and two of them are in Dudley. There's one in Brum as well.

Read your intro, you live in Chesterfield, well I'm DJing in Newark on Friday, and that's only 30 miles. here's a route, you've no excuse now See you Friday Travel (miles)and thento taketotal (miles)0.00Start out at Chesterfield,Derbyshire B60510.000.45At mini-roundabout continue forwardB60570.450.01 Continue forward into one-way systemB60570.460.09 Bear left onto Holywell Street - B6543B65430.550.09 Bear right onto St Marys Gate to pass churchB65430.640.24 At roundabout take the 2nd exit onto the A617 (signposted Mansfield, Derby A61) A6170.880.20 At roundabout take the 2nd exit onto the A617 (signposted Mansfield, Motorway M1) A6171.084.97 At roundabout take the 3rd exit onto the A617 (signposted Mansfield) A6176.051.01Continue forward onto Mansfield Road - A617. Entering Bramley Vale A6177.060.69 Continue forward onto The Hill - A617. Entering Glapwell A6177.751.72 Continue forward onto Chesterfield Road - A617. Entering Pleasley A6179.470.23At roundabout take the 3rd exit onto Chesterfield Road - A617 (signposted Mansfield) A6179.700.82 Continue forward onto Chesterfield Road North - A617. Entering Mansfield A61710.520.18 At traffic signals continue forwardA61710.691.01 At "The Rufford Arms" PH continue forwardA61711.700.75 At traffic signals continue forward onto Chesterfield Road South - A6009 (signposted Newark A617) A600912.450.51 At traffic signals continue forward (signposted Newark A617) A600912.960.31 At traffic signals turn left onto Ratcliffe Gate - A6191 (signposted Newark) A619113.270.49A t traffic signals continue forward (signposted Newark) A619113.760.81 At "The Oak Tree" PH continue forwardA619114.571.09 At roundabout take the 1st exit onto the A617 (signposted Newark) A61715.672.04 At roundabout take the 1st exit onto Kirklington Road - A617 (signposted Newark) A61717.711.70 At roundabout take the 2nd exit onto Kirklington Road - A617 (signposted Newark) A61719.403.33 Continue forward onto Kirklington Road - A617. Entering Kirklington A61722.742.68 Continue forward onto the A617. Entering Hockerton A61725.414.17 Continue forward onto Main Road - A617. Entering Kelham A61729.591.88 At roundabout take the 3rd exit onto the B6326 (signposted Newark) B632631.460.37 At mini-roundabout continue forward onto Great North Road - B6326B632631.830.05 Continue forward onto Great North Road - B6326. Entering Newark B632631.880.07 At roundabout take the 2nd exit onto Castle Gate - B6166 (signposted Balderton) B616631.950.41 Continue forward onto London Road - B6326 (signposted Grantham A1) B632632.360.04 Arrive at Newark,NottinghamshireB632632.40 The Venue is Sweet Soul, and I'm sure it's in the Events section (If not, why not Dougie)

What are the local venues to you ? If I'm DJing at one of them I'll play the Magnetics for you.

You're right. With a comeback like that, I'll concede..... Your're still a disco boy though

There's not your usual quota of disco in there boy Realised most of it's crap have you

You should alwys check the flip sides of records

Yes, I've had three parcels recently, all took a week or so longer than expected.

Perhaps it's just my sense of humour, but a Registered letter only costs a couple of quid, and all the promoters wouldn't like the embarrassing situation of someone turning up at their venue because they didn't know they had been banned would they

Hey Tony, Is the world still flat in your existance, or have you been to outer space yourself and seen that it's round. Or do you just believe what other people have told you. There's three of us, me, chalky, and someone else, that other guy, that have all said we've seen it, heard it, held it. I can get a few more who are on this forum that have also done the same to add their names if you want. I might see John Pugh tonight, I'll have a chat with him, and I might ask you to PM me your phone number, then you can hear it for yourself when he rings you. It exists, believe me. It's crap, believe Chalky !

And it was Blue Max who played it at The Catacombs in Wolverhampton. Guess who is one of Blue Max's best mates, and also comes from Wolverhampton !

It was, and that was worse than the original !

From what I'm told, this was actually recorded as an audition by the singer when he went to Motown, and then pressed as a test pressing (So I was wrong muself when I said it was a demo). As a result of the audition the singer, and I cannot, no matter how hard i try remember the name John Pugh gave me, was not employed by Motown Hence that would account for the scarcity of the disc. To be honest, you asked if it existed, you didn't ask if it was any good. It is actually pretty terrible, and you can understand why he wasn't signed when you hear it. However, I'm not the only person on this list that's seen it and heard it. there are plenty others, and this subject has already been discussed at great length, long before you were a member Tony.The end result then was that those who have heard the record, seen it, and held, it, say it exists, and those who haven't heard it, seen it, or held it say it doesn't. Fortunately I still retain enough of my addled brain to be able to say that if I have held something in my hands, i know it exists !

As far as I'm aware, it was a mis-spelt label.

Sorry Tone, Correct short answer is, yes there was, and still is. It's a Motown demo, and is currently owned by John Pugh. I've seen it, held it, and heard him DJ with it at the 100 Club, and Scenesville amongst other places. In fact I've even got a blipped version of it on tape (But unfortunately all my tapes are in the loft.

Here's a bit more info on them then The Volumes The Valumes (members Eddie Union, Elijah "Teenie" Davies, Larry Wright, Joe Truvillion and Ernest Newson) Chex 1002 - I Love You / Dreams - 1962 (The Most Expensive Version Going For $300.00 Usa) Richard "Popcorn" Wylie playing rhythm on a suitcase -- record took 12 takes. The Volumes (members Eddie Union, Elijah "Teenie" Davies, Larry Wright, Joe Truvillion and Ernest Newson) Chex 1002 - I Love You / Dreams - 1962 (Has No Reference To Jay-Gee Records On The Label, This Goes For About $30.00 Usa) Chex 1002 - I Love You / Dreams - 1962 (Has "Nationally Dist. By Jay-Gee Rec. Co. Inc." Written On The Label, This Goes For About $25.00 Usa) Chex 1005 - Come Back Into My Heart / The Bell - 1962 (Lamont Dozier On Drums) The Volumes Jubilee 5446 - Sandra / Teenage Paradise - 1963 Jubilee 5454 - Our Song / Oh My Mother In Law - 1963 American Arts 6 - Gotta Give Her Love* / I Can't Live Without You - 1964 *Backing Vocals By The Royaltones. American Arts 18 - I Just Can't Help Myself / One Way Lover - 1965 (Eddie Union leaves in 1965) The Volumes Astra 1020 - Gotta Give Her Love / I Can't Live Without You - 1965 (Some Copies Issued In Red Vinyl) Twirl 2016 - I Got Love / Maintain Your Cool - 1966 Impact 1017 - The Trouble I've Seen / That Same Old Feeling - 1966 (Gerald Mathis On Lead Vocal) Inferno 2001 - You Got It Baby / A Way To Love You - 1967 (Jimmy Burger On Lead Vocal) Inferno 2004 - My Kind Of Girl / My Road Is The Right Road - 1967 Inferno 5001 - Ain't That Loving You / I Love You Baby - 1968 Karen 1551 - Ain't Gonna Give You Up / Am I Losing You - 1970 Karen 101 - Ain't Gonna Give You Up / Am I Losing You - ? Virgo ? - 1973 ABC ? - 1973 Collectables Col 038047 - I Love You / Come Back Into My Heart -

Didn't realise comms on the oil rigs were that far behind everywhere else

How could I send you an order attached to one of my racing pigeons ? the bloody thing would come back to me, not you. You would have to supply all your potential customers with pigeons so that they would come back to you. Shheeeesh, I thought you would have known that

How about this, when you email to confirm you have a record still available, you say it will be reserved for 24 hours, and then if you haven't received payment it will become available to anyone again. That way, using me as an example, I could email you Monday night asking if you still had a record, you would reply Tuesday morning, but I'm at work and don't get home till 5 pm so don't see your email until then. But when I read it, I can either pay within the 24 hour period, ie when I get home from work, or at least email you to say I'm sending a cheque, or it becomes available to anyone else. ps have you still got the Ray Pollard ?

Should have also added, and then convert them so they can be watched on TV. I'll ask my son when he comes in from work. If anyone knows how to do it he will, I'd swear his PC actually really does do washing up and open tins of beans !!!

Awesome, hairs on the back of the neck Soul music. Question for thoe more net savvy than me. Is it possible to save all the performances on YouTube to a hard drive and then burn them to DVD because there are some brilliant clips on there ?

Well let's just hope that the flyers had the right to use any images they might have had on them