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  1. That's probably where it's from then because he did play it at the 100
  2. No wonder you did 176 posts in a week :-)
  3. So when are the 'Pre Ordered' ones being posted out Span ?
  4. I've got part of it on a 'live' tape somewhere John was DJing.
  5. Chalky beat me to it this time, it does exist though, I've heard it, seen it, held it, and even sniffed the acetate. And he's right, when you hear you it's pretty clear why it never got past the acetate stage. It was apparently done as an audition by someone who's name I forget at Motown
  6. Already updated the 'SKM' website and credited you Pete. There's another 425 artist discographies and 153 label discographies on the site for you to have a look at when you've got the time. Any additions / corrections gratefully received and credited. (It's also a game anyone can play if they want to.) Dave
  7. I didn't do the one on that site, but it's info like the above I'm after. It wasn't really meant as a criticism of you, it was a question. Why do you think it's wrong ?, I wanted answers like the above, so that I can amend the discog I've got. I'd still question your judgement for being a Wolves fan though :-) cheers
  8. Some of us do have lives away from the PC, and have proper jobs as well :-) I'll concede that the lack of dates do make it slightly dodgy looking, but here's the discog that Flynny and I came up with when we tried to work it all out chronologically. There are definitely at least two release on De Do Re, but I can't remember which two I've seen. The Atac 2830 is, as you'll note below, only rumoured, however it's a long standing rumour, and stands as much chance of being true as it is of being false. especially as there is a catalogue number allocated to the release as well. Part of the problem with Gino Washington's discography is he owned the Atac label, so released things out of sequence / twice / under different names / as re-presses using the same number etc etc, so you can never be sure you've got it all right. Having said that, nobody has proved that these records don't exist, and they wouldn't be in the discography if they didn't exist. So I'll stick by my original claim that the discog on that website is fairly good (the one below has more info in it though), until you can prove to me that it's wrong. Which brings me back to why I asked you why you thought it was wrong, if you had proof of it being wrong it would man I could amend my own discography, but it turns out that you don't, so it's just your opinion. In the end it's only your opinion against mine, but you're a Wolves fan, so I wouldn't place much faith in that :-) Gino Washington Correc-Tone 503 - I'm A Coward / Puppet On A String - 1962 Gino Washington & The Rochelles With The Atlantics Amon 90580 - Out Of This World / Come Monkey With Me - 1963 Wand 147 - Out Of This World / Come Monkey With Me - 1964 Gino Washington Bell Sound Studios, Inc. (No #) - Baby Be Mine / I'm Coming Home - 1964 (Acetate With Scepter Records And Titles Typed On Label Plus Date 4-13-64) Same Release As Below. Wand 155 - Baby Be Mine / I'm Coming Home - 1964 Sonbert 3770 - Gino Is A Coward / Puppet On A String* - 1964 *Different Recording To The One On First 45. Ric-Tic 100 - Gino Is A Coward / Puppet On A String - 1964 W. I. G. 9005 - Romeo / Now You're Lonely - 1966 W. I. G. 358 - Like My Baby (Instrumental) / I'll Be Around (When You Want Me) - ? Creed 1051 - Romeo* / When You're Lonely - 1968 (*Backed By The Debonaires) Gino Washington With The Altrasonics And The Versatones (Members Mala 12,029 - Like My Baby / I'll Be Around (When You Want Me) - 1968 Gino Washington Washpan 3122 - What Can A Man Do / (Instrumental) - 1968 Washpan 3124 - Do You Have That Soul / (Instrumental) - ? Jumping Gino Washington Washpan 32937 - Around The Town / Do The Frog - 1968 Gino Washington Atac 101 - Doing The Popcorn / What Can A Man Do - 1969 Atac 102 - I'll Be Around (When You Want Me) / Like My Baby - 1969 Atac 7823 - I'll Be Around (When You Want Me) / Like My Baby - 1969 Atac 7825 - Doing The Popcorn / What Can A Man Do - 1969 Atac 127 - Lady Liberty / (Part 2) - ? Pride 4 - (Oh) Not Me / (Oh) Not Me - 1970 Perfecta 2880 - Gino's Push And Pull / Hey Football - 1971 Perfecta 2880 - I Lost You / ? - 1971 Do-De-Re 358 - Gino Is A Coward / Like My Baby (Instrumental) - 1971 (Label Owned By Gino Washington) Do De Re ? - Like My Baby / I'll Be Around (When You Want Me)* - ? (Both Tracks Are Instrumentals) Do De Re ? - Like My Baby / Like My Baby (Instrumental) - ? Atac 2743 - It's Winter / Foxy Walk - 1971 (Promo Issue Only - More Picture Sleeves Than Records Made) Atac 2788 - I Been (Thru The Mill) /// I Been (Thru The Mill) / I Been (Thru The Mill) (Instrumental) - ? (12" Single Release - 331/3 Rpm) Gino Washington And The Davis Sisters Atac 2828 - I'm So In Love / Flying High - ? Gino Washington Atac 2829 - You Got Me In A Whirlpool / (Instrumental) (Part 2) - 1975 Atac 2830 - (We're In A) Rat Race / Oh Not Me - 1975 (Rumoured To Be Only Six Copies Made - All With A Hand Written Label) Atac 2878 - Oh Not Me / Hey I'm A Love Bandit - 1976 Washpan 854 - Rat Race / Oh Not Me - ? Washpan 32943 - Rat Race / ? - 197? W. M. C. 358 - Like My Baby (Instrumental) / Rat Race - ? Atac 2930 - Could It Be I'm Falling / I'm Flying High - ? Sir George Washington (Gino Washington) Atac 2930 - Could It Be I'm Falling In Love / I'm Flying High - 1977 Gino Wahington Atac 3031 - (Oh) I'll Never Leave You / We Gonna Make It - 1978 Atac 6404 - What Can A Man Do / Doing The Popcorn - ? Gino Washington & The G. W. Band Atac 62743 - Hey I'm A Love Bandit / We Gonna Make It - 1981 Gino Washington Atac 7826 - Girl Here I Am / Do You Have Soul - ? Atac 7826 - Hey I'm A Love Bandit / ? - 1981 (Same Record Number Used Twice) Atac 1943 - Sassa Frassa Sue / (Part 2) - 1983 Music Location 1002 - Look Into My Eyes / (Instrumental) - ? Gino The Gamanisist Atac 62743 - Heaven Must Have Known / Love's Interlude - 1985 (Same Record Number Used Twice) Gino Washington & The Rochelles With The Atlantics Norton 080 - Out Of This World / Come Monkey With Me /// Heartburn (Instrumental) / Come Monkey With Me (Instrumental) - ? (45rpm Release) Lp's Atac 2743 - Golden Hits Now - 1971 Tracks: Norton 268 - Out Of This World - 1999 Tracks: Out Of This World / Gino Is A Coward / Around The Town / Baby Be Mine / I'm Coming Home / Romeo / Now You're Lonely / Come Monkey With Me / Puppet On A String / Do The Frog / What Can A Man Do / Do You Have That Soul / Like My Baby / I'll Be Around / I'm A Coward. Norton 295 - Love Bandit - 2002 (Gino Washington Plus Various Artists) Tracks: Hey I'm A Love Bandit / Puppet On A String / I Gotta Move On / 'Til The End Of Time / You Should Have Been True / Like My Baby / Everything Is Di-Jo-Be / Rat Race / Doing The Popcorn / Singing In The Rain / Foxy Walk / My Man - Pearl Jones / Please Stay / I Really Love You - Tomangoes / I Don't Want No Bald Headed Woman Telling Me What To Do - Nathaniel Mayer. CD's Atac At1943 - The Best Of A Detroit Legend - ? Tracks: I'm A Coward / Gino Is A Coward / Out Of This World / What Can A Man Do / Puppet On A String / I'll Be Around / I Lost You /// You Got Me In A Whirlpool / Oh Not Me / Flying High / Now You're Lonely / Like My Baby / Girl Here I Am / Hey I'm A Love Bandit. Norton 268 - Out Of This World - 1999 Tracks: Out Of This World / Gino Is A Coward / Around The Town / Baby Be Mine / I'm Coming Home / Romeo / Now You're Lonely / Come Monkey With Me / Puppet On A String / Do The Frog / What Can A Man Do / Do You Have That Soul / Like My Baby / I'll Be Around / I'm A Coward. Norton 295 - Love Bandit - 2002 (Gino Washington Plus Various Artists) Tracks: Hey I'm A Love Bandit / Puppet On A String / I Gotta Move On / 'Til The End Of Time / You Should Have Been True / Like My Baby / Everything Is Di-Jo-Be / Rat Race / Doing The Popcorn / Singing In The Rain / Foxy Walk / My Man - Pearl Jones / Please Stay / I Really Love You - Tomangoes / I Don't Want No Bald Headed Woman Telling Me What To Do - Nathaniel Mayer.
  9. I've seen the album as well. Tim Ashibende had a copy for sale at one time. Regards the 45 discography, that's acurate as well. Which do you think don't exist, and why Pete ?
  10. The Barbara Lynn Story Written by Dave Rimmer Tap to view this Soul Source News/Article in full
  11. The Barbara Lynn Story Written by Dave Rimmer the DJ and editor of Soulful Kinda Music, where article such as this are the norm (see fanzine section for ordering info) For somebody born in Texas (Beaumont, January 16 1942) Barbara Lynn Ozen's recording career was very cosmopolitan. Her first recordings were done in New Orleans for a Philadelphia based label, then for a New Orleans label, then for a New York label in Mississippi and Alabama. And that was just the Sixties! So let's go back to the early days in Beaumont, Texas. Unlike many singers, Barbara Lynn didn't get her start through the church. It was the Texas Blues singers, and Elvis Presley who inspired her. She started learning piano at school, but soon tired of the instrument, so her mother bought her a ukulele. Once she had proved that she could play it, despite being left handed, a proper guitar was purchased for Barbara. Throughout her teens, Barbara wrote poetry prolifically, it was when she started to put the words to music that she began to perform. By 1960 she was in New Orleans, singing backing tracks at Goldband Records and performing in local clubs with her band, Bobbie Lynn and The Idols. The group performed cover versions of current pop (Rock & Roll) hits, R & B covers, and at least one of Barbara's poems that she had composed some music for, 'You'll Lose A Good Thing'. There are several stones about how Barbara was discovered, but the one that appears most frequently, and is supported by Barbara herself, was that she was performing at a club called Lou Arm's in New Orleans when well known producer Huey P Meaux was told to catch the show and give her a listen. He duly went, saw her perform 'You'll Lose A Good Thing' and decided he wanted to record her. Huey was at this time a regular producer at Cosimo Matassa's recording studio at 521 Governer Nichols Street in New Orleans. He regularly took artists like Joe Barry, Leroy Martin, Rod Bernard and Jimmy Adams into the studio to record. So this is where he took Barbara to record her debut track. It could of course have been the fact that Cosimo let Huey use the facilities on credit rather than money up front which influenced his choice! Either way, within a few days the song was recorded, and several acetates were distributed to radio stations. Almost immediately Jamie Records in Philadelphia showed interest and promptly signed Barbara to a three-year contract. The song was released as Jamie 1220 with 'Lonely Heartaches' as the flip. It proved to be a huge hit single reaching # 1 on the R & B chart and #8 on the Billboard Pop charts. Nobody could have anticipated such a huge national hit with a debut single, and there wasn't a follow up single ready. However, on the strength of the hit Barbara went on tour. She eventually covered 43 states and appeared on Dick Clarke's Bandstand TV programme (Which was recorded in Philadelphia) twice. By the end of the year another two singles had been released and an album recorded. The album included the tracks 'Dina And Patrina', (Although I've seen it listed as 'Dina And Petriria', and even 'Dina And Katriria') and 'Give Me A Break'. The reason I mention this is that the two tracks appear to have been released as a single on Eric, prior to the Jamie deal. Although I've never seen the single Barbara herself does give credence to its existence in an interview with Alan Govenar in 'Meeting The Blues: The Rise Of Texas Music’. Barbara was back in the charts in January 1963 with her third single for Jamie, 'You're Gonna Need Me I I'm Sorry I Met You' Jamie 1240. According to the Billboard chart this was Barbara's only hit that year. However, the Cashbox charts show hits with 'Don't Be Cruel / You Can't Be Satisfied' Jamie 1244, and 'I Cried At Laura's Wedding / You Better Stop' Jamie 1260. By 1964, Billboard had stopped producing an R & B chart, merging Black artists in with the Hot 100 Pop songs. This caused many problems in terms of recognition for black artists for two reasons: 1964 was the year the Beatles hit the States big time, along with all the other UK groups. So many great singles would have sold many thousands of copies, but never got a chart entry. Barbara hit the Hot 100 twice in 1964 with 'Oh! Baby (We Got A Good Thing Going / Unfair' Jamie 1286 and 'Let Her Knock Herself Out / Don't Spread It Around' Jamie 1292. This single was significant because it was not recorded in New Orleans. It was actually recorded in Houston at the ACA Studios owned by Bill Holford- In 1965 Barbara recorded another album. It was not issued until 1997 when Bear family put out the 'Promises' CD. Whilst the tracks were all studio recordings an audience was dubbed over the top to give a, disappointing, live sound Four singles were also released in 1965, none of them became big hits for Barbara and her contract with Janue was not renewed- Huey Meaux still had confidence in her though, so 1966 saw her first release on Huey's own Tribe label. The first release 'I'm A Good Woman / Running Back' Tribe 8316 failed to chart, but the second, the original version of 'You Left The Water Running' Tribe 8319 reached #43 on the R & B charts in October 1966. Two further singles on the label in 1967 failed to chart but Huey Meaux had, as her manager, managed to get a contract with Atlantic Records. The first tracks for the label were recorded at the Grits and Gravy studio in Clinton Mississippi in September 1967. They weren't released until February 1968 and took Barbara back into the charts. 'This Is The Thanks I Got/Ring Telephone Ring' Atlantic 2450 reached #39 on the Billboard R+B charts. And 65 in the pop charts. It was to prove Barbara's last pop hit. The recording career becomes slightly confusing now. Certainly several tracks were recorded in 1968 (including four at the fame studios in Muscle Shoals and three singles (Atlantic 2513, 2553, and 2585) were released, but none of them charted. There was also a superb album 'Here Is Barbara Lynn' Atlantic 8171. There is then a 3-year gap when it appears that Barbara did no recording at all for the label. I can find no explanation for this, and neither Jerry Wexler in his book, or Charlie Gillett in his history of Atlantic Records makes any mention of Barbara Lynn at all. Atlantic certainly had tracks in the can though because in 1971 'Until Then I'll Suffer/ Take Your Love And Run' Atlantic 2812 was released. It proved to be a big hit on the R & B chart (Although it didn't reach the Pop chart). It was Barbara's best showing on the charts for Atlantic so a further three singles were released over the next two years. One, 'I'm A One Man Woman / Nice And Easy' Atlantic 2853 was another '68 recording, with the last two being '72 and '73 recordings respectively. Her ties with the label were finally severed in late 1973 and she set about touring the Southern States on a regular basis. A one off single on the Copyright label was recorded in 1974, followed by another on Starflite in 1975. A longer contract was signed with Jetstream Records in 1976. The first of two singles being a re-recording of 'Until Then I'll Suffer' Jetstream 804. The second was 'Movin' On A Groove' Jetstream, 829 which is currently enjoying popularity on the rare Soul scene. Neither single charted, and they proved to be Barbara’s last recordings for three years 1979 saw another one off single for Love Records 'Mellow Feeling Parts 1 & 2' Love 111, followed by a break until 1983 when 'I'm still the same" was released on Jamstone Records. The touring had continued though out the years and 1984 saw Barbara tour Japan for the first time. A live album was released in Japan. Unfortunate I’ve been unable to trace any details of the label or the track listing. 1988 saw the release in Holland of the Good Times Album, which contained ten Jamie tracks, two tribe, three Atlantic and one side of the copyright single. This year also saw a new contract and the release of the superb single " Trying To Love Two/Sugar Ciated Love" Ichiban 88-142 and the album entitled "You Don’t Have To go" There was then a 6-year gap in releases (Although I suspect that there were a couple of Blues tracks done on the Antones label during this period on compilation albums. Until 1994 when Bullseye Blues released a new album recorded with a full backing band containing such notables as The Memphis Horns and David T Walker. The last new recordings by Barbara were released in 1996 by ITP as an album on which Barbara recorded (Again) many of her own hits and covered songs by artists like The Marvelettes and Betty Wright. Several retrospective CDs have been released in the 90s most notably by Ichoban (covering the Atlantic tracks) and by Jamie themselves and the Bear family release of last year. So that brings the story up to date and I can only add that the consistency or all her recordings, real Soul tinged with Texas Blues, makes Barbara Lynn a real star of Soul music who never really got any recognition outside of specialist circles after her big hit in1962. Apparently she is now living in Los Angeles, a grandmother, content with life and no regrets over her career. As always in doing articles like this, without direct access to the artist the material is sourced from a variety of places. This time I like to give credit to a following people: David Nathan for his sleeve notes on the Ichiban CD Jeff Hanunusch for his sleeve notes on "Promises" CD. David Cole for the article in issue 4 of "In The Basement." Dave Rimmer. Soulful Kinda Music Mag Ed
  12. Well you'd better get started then Ady. I think you've just been elected. I'll help out in any way that I can. Although I suspect that B & S would possibly own the copyright of the articles published in B & S, it would depend on the type of contract Dave had with them and whether it specified who would retain ownership of the article, and for how long. But B & S will also own the Black Music articles as well won't they, I'm sure they took over Black Music at some stage. I really do think this is a great idea though, and Bee Cool would be the best guys to publish it. As already stated, Dave's column's for Soulful Kinda Music are available to anyone who does get this off the ground, and as far as I'm aware the columns in 'SKM' were Dave's last regular writing on Soul music.
  13. What a wonderful idea !!! I'd be happy to donate all his columns for Soulful Kinda Music to something like this.
  14. The Caualeers is my favourite Wigan record, and if you actually listen to it, rather than dismissing it as a Disco Demand release, it really is a quite stunning piece of male group Soul. Following on from what Shute said about it being quite hard on Roulette, I know a copy went through Ebay earlier this year for over £200. Most booked DJ ? Possibly, I have averaged over 50 bookings every year for the last three years, and already have 33 for 2005 in my diary. I probably do the most miles because I don't tend to have bookings concentrated in the West Midlands where I now live, but might be in Scotland one weekend, and Wales the next, then London, then Yorkshire etc etc. Other candidates would have to be Roger Banks, all over the place every weekend, Derek Allen, DJing somewhere near you this weekend if you live in the East or West Midlands, and Carl Willingham, again all over the place but centred in the North West. Mick H, picked up several residencies recently, so they all add to the numbers. Almost certainly I work the hardest in getting to venues because I don't own a car
  15. You've probably given the reason it was never a UK hit yourself there. It sold huge numbers on import, so in all honesty, who was left to buy it when it came out on UK. Even though there were a lot more people actively buying records back in the Seventies, it still needed big sales of a UK issue on the UK Soul scene to get it where it registered on the BBC charts so that 'non-soul' buyers would even get to hear it.
  16. Last classic Chav I saw was a girlie one as well. She had big thick hoop earings about three inch diameter, but best of all they had her name spelled across them in gold and diamonds 'Stacy'. Needless to say the resy was tracksuit bottoms and trainers that dazzled you with all the different stripes !
  17. Can't think of an example of where a DJ/Promo copy is different to the release. Wouldn't be much point really, send all your demos out to radio stations, and then release a different song. Go on, someone prove me wrong :-)
  18. How do you work that out then Kev. You must have reasons for saying you think there is only one original copy, I wouldn't mind knowing what they are, especially as I sold what I believed to be an original earlier this year. ps This is a serious question, I'm not taking the piss this time
  19. Wasn't worth reading mate. Nothing at all to do with the original post, just more self promotion.
  20. Fucking hell. I just try not to spill beer on the decks !
  21. Heard about it from my girlfriend 0 "Love The Snake" 25 Regular punter 100 DJ / Collector 250 Promoter 1000 Kev Roberts 5000
  22. I'm fairly sure Troggs got burnt down in about 1976
  23. Thought you were selling bunches of heather or four leaf clovers for a while then Mark
  24. I think the key words here are "generally enjoying themselves"
  25. I've got an email address for one of the group somewhere (If I've not deleted it). He hasn't got any copies though :-)


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