Simon T

I am pretty sure this is just hearsay. I know of an Andantes, but the owner doesn't have a Frank Wilson or know of anyone who has got one, in the UK Motown (non- Northern) circle.

Maxine Powell 1989: "When you're eighty or eighy five appearing at Cleethorpes or Prestatyn.......!!!!"

Only on the issue, don't go buying a demo as they are double sided www.soulwalking.co.uk/Ujima.html

So I didn't get a release, but has it been released on CD since? Or will I have to put up with my naff tape from a battered old acetate?

Did Chris Jackson's "Since there's no doubt" ever get a release?

It's a fair question and there is an answer to it out there. I can't remember the name of lady in charge of the wardrobe during the 60's; I've got a video with her being interviewed on it somewhere, but can't remeber where that is either!!

Sorry my mistake, I was thinking of another auction last year. I'm sure if John said he's only had the one copy, it is true. Must be the drugs! I'm on medication because over the last couple of years, every time a see a "rare" Northern record with a blue or bluey-green label, I seem to see multiple copies…… Jackie Daye, Royal Esquires, several Shrine disks (Cautions, Ray Pollard, Epsilons, the other Cautions), Greater Experience, oh yes and the Dream Team – I saw a thousand of them!!

Didn't the Gogate label have something similar like "If it's not on Gogate, it's not a hit"? And had those multi-million sellers - The Trent Sisters & Little John?!!

Perhaps the money men have thier eyes on the big label items and remebered that there's been another copy on Ovenchip's auction within the last year?

£946

Me too, sack of s**te. When you consider you could buy 1500 copies if the Isley Bros -This old heart for the same money, smash up 1499 of them, and have a rare, good motown record!!

Gene you're right, just spotted the Indian chap on the original label!!! Where did OKAY come from? The Choctaw theory In the American Choctaw Indian language, there is a word okeh, which means "it is so". It is likely (although I can find no hard evidence) that this word was used in some American communities in the early 19th century. There is a report that Andrew Jackson, during the Battle of New Orleans in 1815, learned of this Choctaw word, liked it, and used it. Woodrow Wilson also preferred this etymology, and used okeh when he approved official papers. His use led to this particular form being picked up by Okeh Records, "the name of a series of popular phonograph records" [Mencken, 1936] as well as hot-dog stands, shoe-shining parlours and more.

In 1918 Otto Heineman founded "OkeH" records using some of the first real 'flat' records, as opposed to cylinders, developed by the Keen-O-Phone company. Since then is probably just associated with OK(ay) because they sound the same?

It was also played at Cleethorpes nighters (by POKE?) around 1982. The album version is 7:38! www.discomusic.com/records-more/521_0_2_0_M38/ The rest ofthe L.P. is crap. I was told they were a bit of a rock band. I bought a 7" from Soul Bowl from a box of about 100+, so don't go paying daft money for one!

Johnny, first it was "and pledge allegance to the fag" then the " northern soul fist" now the "queens hall"!!!! Freudian slips due to much recent over exposure to GAYle Adams? :-))

True. The only thing that would concern me is that most of the records that are now "turning up" seem to labels of one colour, simple design & on vinyl i.e. easier to boot. Has anything on styrene turned up in quantities since Danny Moore?

At least 15 years ago, as I remember going down to West Winch to buy some records and that was one of them. However they were £8, not £15, and I would say about 30 - 40 of them in a pile.

The oldest "northern" record I've got is Jimmy Ruffin - Don't feel sorry for me @ 1961 which is older than me. Any ideas about the oldest record to be played on the scene, and more importantly who's the oldest soulie still going?

The records or the people?! :-)

I bought an aluminium one about six months ago and although it seems a bit flippsy with owt in it, it's turned out to be a well worth the purchase.

How much? Where is my nearest pressing plant?! I've got it burnt on CD straight off an original and the vocal definitely does not have a Jamaican twang. If you listen to - "Giving and taking from day to day" & Cecil sing "I'll walk right over you and I'll do it today", the Coconut chap has a higher voice, but it could be Cecil on backing vocals though. Anybody have any more certain info on the lead vocalist?

I seem to remeber Manship having one a year or so ago @ £700. He may have sold it or "withdrawn" it to put up for auction in the future

Does James mean this version is not played much?

Me neither, not since I bought one of those 75 in the eighties. It could be i) Someone has booted it and intends to flog them as "the first, small run, independent release on a local label" before it was released in small numbers on a local independent label or ii) "It might of only been £3, but you were still ripped off Hippo, because 'Oh Lord' came out on GAR not Gold Spot" But according to Kenny they are legit Anybody got a ides or a scan?