Simon T

That's bad enought to send anybody the color of that HEM label

I know what it is, but still trying to find it so have a spot of selective amnesia! It's really, really crap when you hear it straight off the record. I'll dig it out later and post a clip up - you'll be very disappointed!!!

I didn't say they were available on THAT particular CD, just that they do exist!

If you are going to send anything through the post, like cash (that has metal strips in it), or indeed valued CDs for that matter, wrap it in aluminium foil before putting in the envelope or jiffy bag A tip from my postie friend

clue w.l track l.s.l played as l.s track l,s,l.cheers Billy link

Perhaps it says 97, but it was at an alnighter in Lincoln

I'll put a £5 on it being something in Butch's box! I've got a tape from 85 with him playing the Del Larks twice in a set and I don't think Shifty let the "mello Souls" cat out of the bag until around the turn of the century?

It's not uncommon for MORE people to send christmas cards etc, and CASH internationally at this time of the year and thus statistically things are MORE likley to go astray, if you know what I mean? (I think that coveres me legally!!)

R A V I N G M A D R E C O R D S email:- ravingmadrecords@aol.com Gradings: VG++Â Clean label, any scratches will be light and not affecting play RECORDS 1 - 8 AUCTION ENDS ON NOVEMBER 29TH AT 7PM 2 ***Bombay Flash Mckinley I'll rescue you BID VG++ £800 Make Alan an offer he can't refuse

There's 3 different vocal takes and 2 intrumentals, one with a sax and one not.

I'll start the ball rolling with this offering. It starts off a bit techi but eases up as I got bored and my head cold worsens. .cda Files – compact digital audio Data in the CD digital audio format is encoded by starting with a source sound file, and sampling it to convert it to digital format. CD-DA audio uses a sample rate of 44.1 kHz,.) Each sample is 16 bits in size, and the sampling is done in stereo. Therefore, each second of sound takes (44,100 * 2 * 2) bytes of data, which is 176,400 bytes. Audio data is stored on the disk in blocks. Each block holds 2,352 bytes of data, with an additional number of bytes used for error detection and correction, as well as control structures. Therefore, 75 blocks are required for each second of sound. On a standard 74-minute CD then, the total amount of storage is (2,352 * 75 * 74 * 60), which is 783,216,000 bytes or about 747 MB. From this derives the handy rule of thumb that a minute of CD audio takes about 10 MB, uncompressed. Using special software (e.g. windows media player), it is possible to actually read the digitally-encoded audio data directly from the CD itself, and store it in a computer sound format such as a .wav file. To get a track from a CD onto your computer you need to extract the (xxxx.cda) file with the help of a “ripper” such as Audiograbber (www.audiograbber.com-us.net); this is very easy to use programme which will grab the file to your hard drive either as a .wav file or a .mp3 file .wav Files .wav files are uncompressed and consequently you’ll need about 10 mb of hard disk space per minute of music. Files are encoded and the standard is 16 bits at 44.1 kHz (i.e. CD quality) and has no “loss”. This is the best format to manipulate the audio files. You will need a sound editing programme to manipulate a track and this is the real expense come in. Top end software like Sonic Foundry Sound Forge, Steinberg WaveLab and Cool Edit Pro all cost quite big bucks. However, there are some free ones about like Audacity (www.audacity.sourceforge.net) & Exact Audio Copy (www.exactaudiocopy.de) There are also free demos kicking around the net too . With theses programmes you will be able to trim the noise from the beginning and end of tracks, amplify, fade in and out and with some remove noise, hiss, click and pops. Because .wav files are so big, it is necessary to compress track in order to save space and allow files to be emailed and streamed over the internet. Compressing can be lossy or lossless. Lossless encoding doesn’t save much and so it’s not really much use in these days of large hard drives. Lossy compression is the most widely used such as .mp3 and real audio files .ra. Basically, bits of a tune can be removed because some parts of the audio can not be heard by the human ear (so why the hell it there, I do not know) .mp3 Files Many of the editing software packages will allow you to convert an audio file to a different file format. There are also many free ones that can be downloaded from the net. My favourite is dbPowerAmp Convertor (www.dbpoweramp.com). Once you have installed the software, you can simply right-click on a .wav file in windows explorer and convert it to a .mp3, and you can choose the encoding to reduce the size of the file. You can also convert mp3 (and rar files with a plug in) to wav files to clean up and burn to CD. .rar Files Rar files are produced by Real audio software and tend to be used to “stream” audio over the internet such as radio shows. The basic programme is at https://www.realnetworks.com/products/producer/basic.html . The software to play them is free. I think that Sound quality depends on the file size and / or the speed of the server and your internet connection. Recording to a PC If you have got a sound card, you should be able you find a line-in socket around the back of the PC somewhere, it’s usually takes a 3.5 mm jack plug and an arrow pointing in +/- a blue ring (they’ll be a headphone (green) and microphone (pink) socket too) . To record onto your hard drive you will need a programme; a free one can be found at https://audacity.sourceforge.net/ To record from a tape deck you just need to have the appropriate cable with connection to the tape out put socket (usually phono) and a 3.5mm jack on the other end. However to record from a turntable you will need to amplify the signal somewhere along the way: 1) connect your amp ‘out’ to your sound card in 2) connect you headphone socket to your sound card in 3) connect the turntable lead to a pre-amp which you then connect to your sound card in. (These can be bought separately and cost around £40 - £50) 4) Buy a package like Steinberg Clean Plus that is software to clean up .wav files and contain a pre-amp too You will need to check on that your sound card’s line channel is active; look for a speaker next to the clock in the bottom right corner of your screen and double click on it (if you can’t see it open Control panel from the start menu, click on Sound and Audio Devices and tick the box next to” place volume icon in the taskbar’. I would set the line in level to about half way and check the mute box is not ticked. Usually, by default, your recording will be an uncompressed .wav file 16bit , 44.1kHz on the hard drive You can now edit the files, convert it to .mp3 or .rar, and finally burn a CD to swap with other Soul Source anoraks like me!

By the way was the attachment full length? Can't open it... Be a love and email me it:l_l_m_w@hotmail.com it's in the wires somewhere

Don't forget the mege rare red issues!!

It's simply a "negative" of a scan of the label which is black with silver writting. As I have said before, it's odd that a real rarity like this should turn up recently in mint condition especially being yet another black label with silver lettering Oxford Nights, Soul Communicators, Del Larks demos.......

Yes, but can't remember the name of it, so that's not much help is it? It's a legit release and I seem to remember there is a different mix of it too

I think it what you would call scrapping the bottom of the barrel in the US now. Years ago you would not bother bringing records back if they were in poor condition because to no one would buy them - remember a £20record now, would be 50p in good condition and if it was knackered you wouldn't want to run the risk of paying the import duty on them. If they were a big sound I'd bring them back and snap out the label and stick them on my record box. Like all collectables, the long term demand & money will follow the items in the best condition

pull a crowd, all at once?!

Personally, I think that the scene will soon become divided into two camps; one will be a retro / Wigan / oldies/ pantomime, type situation where people go to functions that play "established" sounds, whether 60's or 70's etc. People will go out to dance and enjoy themselves and won't give a monkey's if it's played of vinyl or laptop. This is probably where the money will be and consequently what lasts the longer. The other camp will be for the "collectors" which comprises of a few stamp collectors who have all the rarest, obscurest, sounds that the above don't give a **** about. An evening will consist of wanking over each other collections, with cries off my one-off is rarer than your one-off because it doesn't play!

Hi Dan Yes you did! Dan was in fact the only person who ventured ought of his own free will, so I stand corrected. It was ****ing marvellous except 'Dancin girl' which is "different" shall we say! Years ago I used to regularly do tape swaps, and if anyone is interested in doing the modern day equivalent of CD swaps then PM me. I'm interested in mega rare / non-released / one-off stuff & anything, more importantly, that's £50 or less.

just played and still sounds like a duck thingy to me It's a "rasp" i.e. a foot long piece of hard wood with grooves cut horizontally along it and scrapped up and down to make the duck noise

No Mike, not since the days of the Hacienda, sorted!!!!!!!