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A brilliant record and funnily enough the perfect example of the Carolina's Blue Eyed Northern sound despite the fact that it's not blue-eyed and not from the Carolinas.

Pete's hit the nail on the head here. Beeks may be a nice chap in person and may be sincere in his love of soul music, but his first few weeks of posting have just got peoples' backs up. It's not because he's young (at 35 he clearly isn't) but because he comes across as a dick.

Did You Tell Him on White Cliffs is great New Orleans deep soul. It sounds like it was cut at the same session as the River City 45 Dylan. It can be picked up quite cheaply these days, where in the past it was something of a rarity. I've often toyed with the idea of playing the other side of the White Cliffs 45 (Hey Little Chick) out in clubs. Despite nonsense lyrics it really packs a punch and has that great minor key sound of the best New Orleans Northern soul.

Sacrilege indeed on The Del-Larks! Similarly Love Is Alright by Cliff Nobles is a great record and I consider him to be a cruelly neglected soul singer. I agree with Mulf regarding the merits or otherwise of Liberty on BASF. When you consider it was recorded at Muscle Shoals Sound studios in around '72 or '73 you have to wonder how they couldn't find a decent singer to put the vocal side down; the studio must have been knee-deep in great soul talent in those days. I still have a soft spot for the instrumental side, which is a real belter and stands up very well in its own right.

Hi Mike Klylie did Time Will Pass You By but it missed all the things that make the Tobi Legend record so great by so far that it might as well have been Long After Tonight... it's truly awful.

Surely the same group, Jordi. Speaking of SRI has anyone got the release of Audrey Royal's great Super Sexy Soul Man on this logo, He-She Scene, which was presumably before SRI. The publishing credit is Rising Sun music and it's produced by Arnold Albury. The logotype is classic.

Regarding Arnold Albury & The Casuals, I have: Dade 2027 Funky Yolk / Thanks For Waiting Dade 2028 Feel It / My Baby Don't Understand but not a third Dade 45. Would be interested in hearing and buying the third if anyone has one. Most records he was involved with are at the least interesting and at the most really brilliant. He was one of the driving forces of Miami soul and funk, being instrumental from the start of the Miami R&B scene, arranging lots of great records on the Deep City, Reid, Lloyd & Dade labels to name a few.

I agree with you about the brass Jordi. The Suncut 45 is worth picking up at a fraction of the cost of the other 45, but is probably a less instant dancefloor record. The aspect that's always appealed to me about these 45s is the quality of the lead singer, who is decidedly soulful.

You are of course correct, Sebastian. It might be the case that the Kingston 45 is the 'answer' to the Suncut 45 rather than the other way around.

Seeing as there is some interest at the moment in the UK for The Rising Sun's Good Lovin' on Kingston, I suppose it's worth mentioning that there is an answer record by the same group, One Night Affair, on another Miami label, Suncut. Possibly cut at the same session and using pretty much the same backing track, I think it's just as easy or difficult to get as the Kingston 45 but is much, much cheaper.

One thing to bear in mind regarding Tommy & The Derbys: the soundclip on here is not the full record in its entirety. It's a looped version of the soundclip posted when Tim Brown was auctioning a copy, so it's half the record played twice, missing the second half of the record and the great Tommy Tate vocal as the record reaches a crescendo. Opinions based only on the refosoul post are based on incomplete evidence. To me this 45 has all the hallmarks of a completely classic Northern Soul record and as a 'lost' recording of one of the greatest of all soul singers it's historically important too. The idea that it's too slow to play at allnighters staggers me. Dance records should always be more about feel and dynamics rather than strict tempo-counting or beats-per-minute considerations. I realise that it's impossible (and indeed undesirable) for everyone to like the same music, but I think some of the negative opinions above are more about an aversion to expensive records full-stop rather than this particular 45. People seem to be more scathing in their opinion of records beyond the reach of their own pockets for some complex reason. Had this Tommy Tate recording made it onto one of his Okeh or Musicor singles and been available to buy for under £100 I don't think it would engender anything like the same antagonism. There seems to be a prevailing mood amongst some of sneering (to borrow a phrase from the postings above) at those collectors who would pay several thousand pounds for a record. This is misplaced in my opinion as without those willing to do so the scene might as well forgo any pretense of being in any way relevant or progressive. If the top-end collectors were to leave the allnighter scene and collect 'in private' as it were, then the scene in its original spirit really would be finished.

Definitely more copies of Morris Chestnut around than Lou Ragland.

I'm always right Tony.

Ok, while you're "on a roll" why not give us a list of ten records which are as underexposed as Tommy & The Derbys that you would like to see on allnighter playlists. It's very easy to be negative about records which are currently in vogue; maybe you can redress that with a more positive posting. You seem bullish about your own collection so I'd be interested to see a list of the kind of sounds you'd rather hear out at the moment.

Beeker73: you can't count as well as being tone-deaf.

The evidence all points to the Willie McCovey being the backer of this record. A high profile case of a US sports star being involved in independent soul music business is Jim Brown's financial backing of Way Out records in Cleveland: they even gave him his custom Big Jim label (The Occasions & Bobby Wade 45s). There must be at least a few more examples...

An excellent record.

Which side gets played at Northern dances? Must say I prefer the No Appreciation side. On the gender of the cover-up name I can understand why it could be passed off as a female artist as it shares a lot of the flavour of records by contemporaries such as Jo-Ann Garrett or Jackie Ross. Anyhow an interesting record, I'd say, and a very worthwhile recent discovery.

Hi Joel this looks like a listing from Coach Jim Hunt in New Jersey (no photos, no paypal, but great records in fantastic condition). A HarmBall in his parlance is a harmony ballad.

Come on soul-source brains-trust. Got to be a copy out there...

Hi Anyone got a copy of Eddie Finley Rapturea 1571: Treat Me Right Or Leave Me Alone / Clean Up Man for sale? Ideally in above VG+ condition. TIA for any leads gareth

Hi Anyone got a copy of Eddie Finley Rapturea 1571: Treat Me Right Or Leave Me Alone / Clean Up Man for sale? Ideally in above VG+ condition. TIA for any leads gareth

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Many thanks. gareth

Hi How are the labels? They can often be battered on this release.