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Yes it does say that and I corrected the guy who released that flyer. His knowledge of the early years is owed to what people such as myself and Roy etc tell him. I gave him info and he mistakenly put 1969 when in truth it was in existence throughout the 60's as a ballroom dancing club and a teddy boy/rocker haunt, before, as I stated earlier, changing to a Soul/Mod hang out around 68 following a few Mod v Rocker battles in and around the place . Thats why I know the date so well Soash, I was involved so I KNOW thats when it happened. Surely you are not using that flyer as your proof of the Central opening in 1969!! Its important to note that during all this discussion, nobody has come on here and supported your claims mate. To be honest though, in all this, its not whether you or I were correct in our recollections, but that you seemed intent on insisting because mine were different to yours , then I was a pretender and some sort of wannabee! A slurr you are still hinting of when you say "the REAL old times", thats what really pissed me off! Roy hit it on the head when he stated that they are just rcollections and everybodys are different. For example, I was a regular at the Torch but when I saw some really detailed photos recently, I was gobsmacked that it wasnt exactly how I remembered it! Things blurr mate. It doesnt mean its a lie! Also because someone else was there and did it too, it doesnt mean you were not important! Anyway, I'm going to leave it at that now.

I was going to let this argument go...but f*ck it why should I ? I never went to the Central in 1968, I imagined it. YES YOU BLOODY DID IMAGINE IT, CAUSE THE PLACE OPENED IN 69. Really!!!! ???? NOT EVEN GOING TO WASTE TIME ARGUING OVER THAT POINT. I was wrong about the lay-out of the Metro and so was Mick Eastwood, Paul Rowan,Swish and Denis Billingham. If you say so. I certainly haven't.....Yes you did... "Well, in your last post, Pete, you described the layout of the Metro – but the layout you described was NOT the layout on the Saturday soul sessions/all nighters. During the week, there were indeed tables down both sides of the place, with a relatively small area in the middle left to dance on. However, on Saturdays, most of the tables were removed and stacked at the back of the room (folks used to leave their overnight bags on them). If you were looking from the entrance end, you would only have seen a small number of tables pushed up against the left hand side wall, and a clear dance floor to the right (I remember having to shift all the bloody things!" I never saw Denis or Flash spinning tunes at the Metro Spinning tunes and DJing are two different things.....Clutching at straws there Soash! I never went to the Metro, I lied to impress. I never refuted the fact that you went to the Metro...YOU JUST SUGGESTED IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE ALL-NIGHTERS THEN.. ''So that could, I guess, explain the differences in our recollections. When I talk about the Metro, I talk about the paid-entry Saturday night sessions/all-nighters. I'm not talking about the free "coffee bar" sessions that took place during the week.''

I would suggest that your history is just that, Soash YOUR history. I have come to the conclusion that maybe you have become a bit of a legend in your own mind mate. Pity really because the Metro wasnt a bad little club for a few fleeting moments..

OK Soash, I admit it all. I never went to the Metro, I lied to impress. I never went to the Wheel. I lied to impress. I never went to the Central in 1968, I imagined it. I never went to Hernies. I lied to impress. I never saw Denis or Flash spinning tunes at the Metro I was wrong about the lay-out of the Metro and so was Mick Eastwood, Paul Rowan,Swish and Denis Billingham. I made all these things up to make myself look big! Oh, You were the biggest noise in the great Metropolis that is Wakefield. and we are not worthy.. HOPE YOUR METRO RE-UNION/REVIVAL GOES WELL!!! so sad really.

Soash, I provided the info for the guy who wrote the Central flyer as he wasnt on the scene then. The flyer states It is 40 years since the Central started playing 'Northern Soul'. You will notice I said the Central was a mod/soul club in 68. Not a 'northern soul' club. It did indeed have a slight shift in its music policy around 70/71 when the guys who had frequented the BeeGee etc started bringing tunes down to play. At this point Kenny, Rob etc were regular visitors as was Julian Bentley, although he was more inclined to be at Lord Jim's. So yes you are right in saying they weren't there in 68, my mistake, but does the club only become relevant if certain people attend? Normie Baths was a 60's venue! Just because the all'nighter crowd apart from locals didnt travel to it doesnt make it irrelevant, does it. Same with the Central and many other breeding -ground clubs.. It was around before then mate and the music policy was more commercial Soul, Motown,reggae, ska etc.with a smattering of 'all-nighter soul'. It had been a rocker/greaser club until 68 though. I'm not sure but hope that you are not aiming your comments at me with regard to people pretending to be around before their time, whilst I agree many do, I promise you I dont. Whats the point? This does not alter the fact that obviously I along with several from your 'old' crowd disagree with your recollections of the Metro, sadly.

Soash, Believe me mate, I am not doubting any of what you said about you starting the all-nighters or your place in the history of the Wakefield hierarchy ! Swish probably didnt know you, wheres I myself knew of you back then,although we never met. I joined the scene in 1968/69 so did know of you by name. I cant answer for Swish with regard to who he knew back then, but Rob Lemoine, Kenny Coleman, Steve Welcer, Phil Haig, Pete Balance, Stan Spencer, Dick and Julie Poynton...are all guys I knew.. indeed Kenny and Steve Welcer were at last months Central reunion and if they are at the next one I will ask them also to comment on the dj dispute. The Central was around and was a top mod/soul club in 1968 mate! So it was relevant to the crowd I mentioned, they all attended regularly. So to lump it in with the Casino as a later venue is misguided and disrespectful. What I am saying and will continue to say is I have spoken to several of them and they all are adamant that others including Denis Billingham (I have spoken with him personally to confirm this) and Flash Atkinson (no longer with us sadly) dj'd AT THE ALL-NIGHTERS! . Indeed I was there as was Swish when it happened. You may well have been THE RESIDENT Soash, nobody is disputing this point. Does that stop others spinning some tunes during the night? I was asked by some of the guys to attend the next Metro but to be honest, I feel this has taken the edge off any enjoyment I would have felt by going. As do one or two other of the guys. The place that the Metro held in the folklore of the scene is a fleeting moment , as was Hernies in Leeds! Just two of several clubs that emerged in an attempt to fill the massive footsteps of the Wheel! Both failed in the long term but also succeeded in their own way , in that both achieved somewhat legendary status and for the few who actually attended these two small clubs, left magical memories imprinted in their minds! Regards Pete

to be honest, the names familiar but cant put a face to it,Sammy. Were you one of Ady Dundas and Eric Smith's crowd?. I used to love the Museum Hall in Selby! You must come and chat though.Be good to see you. Pete

A box?? it was a suitcase Roy! and earlier than 72 mate, I would've said 69/70 onwards from my recollection.

Hi Swish, I thought you would have been on Bradford station with us that night Whose car were you in ? Its a long time ago mate but I can picture the inside of the Metro like it was yesterday. I re-called it to Mick Eastwood the other week and he said thats exactly what it was like. Memory is a weird thing though. Paul Rowan recalls Soash very clearly, says he was the guy who told him about the club and encouraged him to go. Sadly Soash doesnt remember Paul either. On a different note, I hear you are dj-ing at the November Central, mate. Great news and I look forward to meeting up with you again. I cant believe it was all that time since we'd met up before the last Central. TC will no doubt arrange a pint pre-gig so see you then.

I'm looking to find a Walter Jackson -'Bless You'/'Coldest Days of My Life' Cotillion(44077) on issue. I'd take a non-U.S. release also but not a 'Bless You/same' promo as I want it for the 'b' side. Cheers

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too much for me then as its only vg+ too !. I'd go £30 tops

how about this...off me face in the Highland room. bought Strawberry Jam version of 'Personally' for a quid somehow thinking I was buying Bobby Paris on British!! ! Thinking was that it was UK issue . I saw Pye( I know it was blue!), thought Polydor!!! What a bargain, till my mate says 'WTF YOU BOUGHT THAT FOR? ,

Also want Minnie Epperson-Grab Your Clothes.

Looking for Some Other Guy by Richie Barrett. Ideally on UK but on import if price ok. Have got a nice couple of trades available if interested but will pay cash if not.

The Ubiquitous fella was a visitor to the Metro along with me. Train to old station in Wakey then a mass walk up through the town centre. Then bus back to Leeds in the morning. Great days full of youthful enthusiasm. The night the Metro was raided we were in Bradford on the way back from Keighley and Flash Atkinson's birthday. We got as far as Bradford but decided to give it a miss as none of us had any gear!!! So we headed back to Leeds..

Hi Swish. Thanks for confirming that! I though I was losing it for a minute. I also spoke to Mick Eastwood on this subject. He too confirmed that Denis & Flash dj'd there. I hear you are doing the next Central mate, great to hear.

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off topic are you djing the next Central,Ian ?

Right,,,Just had a surreal conversation. About 22 years ago I got into Acid House music as a side project to the normal Soul thing,as it were! Hacienda and all that !..been there done that..I kept telling them! I met a young man by the name of Martin Brown. Now then, tonight I'm at a 50th birthday party and Martin is there, not seen him for 20 years. He freaks out and says I saw your name on a Northern Soul poster as a dj! I didnt know you were into that ? Then he says youre not gonna believe what I'm gonna tell you now... My dad was Gerry Brown ! My wifes dad is.....Alan Day!!! FFS! Blown away... how many coincidences is there at play there then !

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