SHEFFSOUL

I'm sure I have a wigan tape from '74 with John Vincent playing Lou Pride covered as James lewis??ring any bells??

presumably..thats the one where SS is pushing Kev thru the skylight saying '..dont forget James Conwell 'love runs out..is really Willie Hutch on Dunhill..' I met dave Rai at the hilton Heathrow just a few weeks ago..we spent six hours retelling many great northern record stories..the Alco pressing plant sory still kills me..

FOR ME ..ITS ANN PERRY INST WHICH i THINK WAS COVERED AS BUTCH BAKER..COULD BE WRONG SHES WANTED ..LARRY C ..WHICH I FIRST HEARD HIM PLAY AT CLEETHORPES ALLDAYER ALSO SAME DAY GWEN OWENS ..WANTED..THEN HE BORROWED LEVINES COPY OF THE TWANS AND BROKE IT TO A WIDER AUDIENCE...

INSPIRED BY MALC BURTONS RECENT REPLY IN THE OOTP PRESSINGS THREAD..WHAT INCIDENTS CAN YOU RECALL & EVEN SHED LIGHT ON AMID THE RUMOUR? WIGAN CASINO,THE TORCH & THE STACK OF OOTP DISCS THAT WENT UP IN SMOKE..WILL DO FOR A START..

MIDNIGHT BREW ALSO CAME OUT AGAIN AS A B SIDE BY GLASS TEAR BAND ON TRIP 15.i RECENTLY BOUGHT A COPY BUT NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT????

..AGED 16..1974 WIGAN CASINO..

yes, a few had sound problems inc the debbie dean..I also remember buying ootp records at the Leeds soul festival allnighter for 20p each ,in fact £1 for a pack of 5 (sealed) i bought two packs & sold the doubles.I wonder what the rarest issues/least seen are?..

heres my list..lots i've never seen..how many can we get on here..remember the orange carl douglas..any other colours besides the bluey green?

I'VE A LIST OF OOTP PRESSINGS/BOOTLEGS FROM 1974, & ALTHOUGH I'VE SEEN A FAIR FEW OVER THE YEARS DID ANY OF THE UNSEEN (BY ME ANYWAY) LIKE BRICE COEFIELD & MILTON WRIGHT EVER GET A RELEASE ON OOTP? ALSO DID ANY APPEAR ON BOTH IMPRINTS, THE SHOOTING STAR & PLAIN WHITE LABEL, ANY OTHER INFO PLUS SCANS WOULD BE GREAT, THANKS

Last chance for anyone interested before I advertise these elsewhere, thanks for looking....

I'M THE MAN/SAME OLD FAMILIAR PLACES-ROCK. EX-NR MINT. OFFERS TRIP TO YOUR MIND/POWER TO THE HOUR-VISUALLY VG,HAS SOME SCRATCHES/MARKS BUT PLAYS EX BEAUTIFUL FULL SOUND ON BOTH SIDES.OFFERS BILLY SOULTREE HAS ' THIS IS IT' WRITTEN ON LABEL OTHERWISE CLEAN. HUDSON PEOPLE IS THE RARE 12" VERSION (9.06) WITH EXCELLENT BUT NOT AS GOOD B SIDE.IN ORIGINAL 12" ENSIGN SLEEVE. SERIOUS BUYERS CAN PM ME FOR MORE INFO IF NEEDED. WILL GIVE THIS A FEW DAYS TO SEE WHAT INTEREST, IF NOT SUFFICIENT WILL PUT THEM ON EBAY,THANKS ELVIS

I remember the vote..& I stayed away the night of filming..apparently it was very bright, full of posers, some even wore sunglasses..the end (for me) was just around the corner...

Tish & Wendy Rainbow from Boston Lincs. I went out with Tish, about 1972 when they both worked at a hotel in Skegness during that summer,had a big infuence on introducing me to northern soul. Remember going to Boston gliderdrome with them & knocking about with some older guys one being Dodge Bastik I think? We planned a trip to the Torch but it never happened.Anyone in touch with them?

Jack hammer french ep with subway recently on ebay..checkit may still be for sale

sorry that should read sound of soul..

has anyone sound clips for dress rehearsal - van McCoy , an inst track lifted from an LP, diff title same artist I recall, also the version of footsee first played at the casino in '74 under the artist title of the soul of soul ( some irony) or any further info on the McCoy track, thanks

yep..whats the procedure?

maybe..I'd not been to wigan in a while..so upon my return pushed the boat out & got off my box..heard tim tam, thought it was fantastic, bought it that night, got home, played it & resold it straightaway, a lot of records sounded great whilst at Wigan, less so elsewhere.

Yep, massive in '74..anyone remember ' i hear a symphony' carmel strings..searling said at the time '..one of the most popular instrumentals ever at the casino (in '75) he obviously (neither anyone else) didn't forsee the allniter running til '81.It was played regularly alongside the salvadors/Jades, not a classic but very casino..great niter sound

Nice.....Respect...sounds like a good job! As I said, I was only going on what my mate said and you have put those worries to rest All it took was an eloquent (not arsey, as many seem to be) reply. Hey, are you the Roxy Thread guy, used to go there myself and Paul Smiths in Notts?

I had a copy that I found in a soul box from soul bowl in the mid 70's. prob '76 or '77.They were 100 unplayed asstd 45's for £5 inc postage, anybody else find one? I also found the second copy of Chris cerf which I sold to kev Roberts, Joseph Moore, Enchanters etc, as I'd stopped going to niters by '78, i moved em on for a few quid as unknowns..

Your arguments against the costume & badges in particular are very vague.As i said I'll resond to q's about costume.In fact I did say pre '75, meaning '74.When you say 'they didn't really care' who exactly are you referring to? Not me thats for sure..If anyone raised a Q to me during the filming it was answered truthfully with reason. I repeat my Q to you (so far unanswered) did you actually attend ANY of the filming, if so in what capacity? Your mate copey may have raised his Q to someone who was unqualified to answer it, & then assumed it wasn't important.For instance when Dave Evison came to DJ for a dance scene (he was off camera) he asked me if I had any more of the bar towels (that dancers used to wipe their sweat, usually tucked into waist belts) I replied we had but as this shot was a close up (head & shoulders)& they wouldn't be seen it wasn't important.He understood, but someone else might have not, maybe your mate copey.As for the baggy trousers, there are several great photos taken from mid '74 that clearly show baggy soul trousers being worn, I was already wearing a pair in '74 & these were available from said tailors plus Roxy threads in Nottingham,plus many corner shop tailors.Of course not eveyone wore them but versions of them were already a fashion staple in the high st, these were not the spencers soul trousers, they came later & were much wider.I repeat, much care & research was taken with regard to costume, but as in many cases, their are always one or two who insist on wearing their own clothing, if they slipped thru the net , I doubt they'll be seen on screen after editing, thats the important thing.I was a regular at the casino for much of 1974, I based my reseach on this & my ( & others) personal photos, my brother & I were partners in a fashion shop & we sold a lot of 'soul fashion' mail order thru Blues & soul, I honestly doubt anyone was more qualified to costume this film, if there are I'd like to meet them!

Ok! here are some FACTS..not hearsay, rumour, or 3rd hand info.I was the costume designer on 'souled out' filming finished about 10 days ago. I've been a professional costumier mostly on film for over 20 years, also a northern soul fan for over 35 years.I lived & breathed northern soul from around '72-78 although I never lost my love for the music.I first visited the casino in early '74 & was a regular for 4 years. I can tell you that a lot a research went into costumes & particularly badges.I based this on first hand accounts (my own) plus my personal photo/memorabilia archive.Only pre '75 soul badges were used, very good replicas of the originals.In the case of the casino the first maroon rose design & heart of soul.I also took artistic liberty and reproduced a patch ' i'm on my way to see russ & kev at wigan casino' copied from an original '74 design.I used the first allnighter patch on one actor, a patch which although only given free back in Nov '73 to the attendees of that inaugral niter, was seen frequently on bags & clothing certainly thru '74.No actor wore a '77 badge, even the ace moovers inc liam/paul etc wore VA-VA,Torch, Pendulum,patches.Many others used were the ISC patches which were everwhere in '74.If your mate saw a '77 patch it was prob worn by one of the northern soul fans who came as part of an invited party/extras to take part in the filming, in fact I asked several fans to pls change if they had a shirt or top with a post '74 patch.As for the clothing, the central core of the extras were clothed in 28''-30'' bags(oxford) some with 4'' waistbands, based on an original pair I had made by Julian Jelonek, a tailor in mansfield , during the summer of '74.Skirts were copied using an original as a base pattern.Vests & simon style shirts plus original US bowling shirts were the mainstay, many extras brought original items, still with their original patches on & it was fantastic to see them being used again, I remarked on one , worn by a girl who couldn't have been more than 17, her mum bombed over, 'thanks' she said I used to wear it to the 'cats/mecca & casino!'.I can honestly say, to meet many soul fans of my age & share stories was a definite highlight of the filming experience.Another lady lent me 2 x skirts to use on 2 x dancers we wished to feature. Guys like Avon Horden even brought memorabilia & records, & he had a ball filming, even on the non casino scenes.The level of commitment was not just confined to the costume dept but also production design.In summary, I think much of the negative comments are very unfair, we are professional film makers & its not in our interest to make a shoddy film, remember also its not a documentary but a film set against the backdrop (sorry) of northern soul in 1974.Judge it when its out, & for those who don't give a **** simple, dont go & see it.Hope this clarifies a few things, I'm more than happy to reply to any q's relating to costume on 'souled out' but not any other matters! regards Elvis davis

How do you come to the conclusion, 'its as if no one has done any proper research on this project' are your comments based on what you've actually seen being filmed or heard? again pls explain 'wrong clothes for the period & wrong badges'