barney

theres probably 40 in yorkshire every month and many more if you include scootering events which have a strong northern soul bias

MOVE IT THEN PLEASE

musnt forget BERNIE PEARSON bolton lancs, solid classic oldies dj as even played in gods county played a brill spot at EMPRESS

worrabart the brandysistas two young up n coming dj,s , funny as well

have read all your kind comments and would like to thank everyone concerned , its apparent that there are differing views about our scene ,what I would call the oldies(traditional) and the progressives I believe I would put myself in the former,the vast majority of the people that I have spoken to are also into oldies same for the events that I attend, this seems to be at odds with the number of responces and content on this forum, maybe there should be a dedicated northern(oldies) thread on here , no doubt this debate will continue. would like to thank the people who have suggested (invited) me to there events and also thank you for recommending tracks to listen to,lastly thankyou spot for the cd, have listened to it several times and there are a few goodens on it. have spoken to angie and intend to go to some new never been to events in the new year and will bear some on here in mind (cheers adam) at the end of the day each to his/her own .we are into this scene because of the music and its been going a long time, you couldnt find more friendley people. happy and a prosperous new year to all KTF barney

kin glad am a dinosaur

as previously stated stopped attending allniters a few years ago because of the music policy.yes I go to soul nights (oldies/motown and across the board ) no doubt some of the djs would argue about your assumption of the paucity and scope of their collections more a case of they know their punters and choose not to play some of the music heard at the events you mention. I have not closed my mind about new music but the days of the dust covered demo found in a studio cupboard are long gone and as for recently released music imho it mostly aint and never will be northern, ok to listen to at home or car, as I have said not on a quest to find the holy grail happy with wots been done and theres enough out there already to entertain me ad infunitum. so for the new year if its an oldies night ,keep off the progressive .leave that for the alternative venues and please djs if yer want ter indulge in yer collections stay at home and do it ,dont inflict them on me HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY

not claiming any braggin points on here, but just had a think back over the number of (northern) soul events I have attended this year and different venues ,including regular local events and venues .the total for this year is 28 different venues, including charity nights b/day do,s and anniversaries this does not include the 3 soul w/enders and soul in the sun fortnight, nor does it count the scootering do,s and 3 scootering w/enders I have been to. probably not as many as last year.. as I have said I avoid the rare and underplayed scene and stick to what I consider mainstream events and have in the main enjoyed most of my nights -w/ends but what concerns me and it is getting more noticeable is that dj,s are playing stuff which to me is not what I would consider worthy of being played at a northern soul night , and maybe where ever possible two rooms is the answer. as you can see from the above over the past year I have attended an event at a different venue more than once a fortnight, from local events, to those further afield such as monaco, bury town hall, six hills derbys , okeh kiegthly .drax , central notts. pilsley derbys, east kirby notts, one of the best events for me music wise funnily enough was at the crown isle of wight all oldies but not the usual out on the floor/snake numbers normally played at a scooter do but just good oldies that dont often get played,

never went there myself but have been told it were a brilliant niter derek greenhoff is still going strong in the locality and as some of you are probably aware, derek co promotes the trades club and kingstone club barnsley. in fact was at kingstone last night and derek played his usual blinder of a spot,he is one of the most knowledgable guys I know with regard to the northern soul scene and is an anorak of a collector just luv him

the term northern soul is not easily defined ,originally it was the term used by the media (southerners)to describe the mainly black american music which was being played further north of watford in clubs and other venues by mainly working class youths. which lent itself to a stylised form of dance.in the late 60s early 70s. since then the music has evolved but the mainstream is based around the songs and tunes which were played week after week at various events and the choicest records survived whilst many others fell by the wayside. this form of natural selection is now being usurped by the growing number of events,promoters and djs who are of the opinion that to succeed they must seek out and play new material irrespective of its merit , at the end of the day it,s the punters that decide what is and whats not acceptable

mrs bought me a copy ; tommy is a really nice bloke and though he is getting on ,has some fantastic stories about his time in the music business.

i hope i havent come across as a big knowitall biatch??

yer spot on teapot mate ,just a civilian but all the people that I know personnally. who come on here are either djs or promoters or both. with the exception of one recently made friend,

your right with your post except for the bottom line .. the bottom line is IMHO the majority of people are into oldies , have a look round at the scene (with the probable exception of nighters which I have stopped doing because of the music played )the most popular and best attended are oldies nights and the w/enders I attend the oldies rooms are always chocker and theres tumbleweed blowin across the floor in the modern/rare ,underplayed room. know some dont like it but thats the way it is

sorry to hear of a venue finishing but your conclusion is wrong ,the punters rule supreme and if you cant get them in ask why. its no good playin cool rare underplayed sounds if nobody wants to hear them . we are all supposedly adults and make adult choices, if we dont like the music we wont go back .word gets around. exclusive is alright for the few. know your punters ,pander to them dare I say play what they like .fill the floor and you will be rewarded with a place in heaven

hey up chalkie I am choosy as to where I go, and if an event is billed as rare or modern I give it a wide berth (personally would rather stay in ,an stick pins in mi eyes) trouble is all you progressive fookers keep attending events billed as northern and imho ruining it for us dinosars

got to agree with what you say teapot. but what was adventurous and exciting is now the norm and people are trying to change the scene by playing what I consider music outside the wide spectrum of n/soul just to say they played it and try to justify it by telling us to move on. to what.. as been said there are 10000s of worthy n/soul discs , if djs did their h/work and delved into their collections . they could take a diffrent box to many events before repeating them. yes the s.o.s.o. does get a bit tiresome and as said I can appreciate the odd new sound (you can tell it almost straight away.think some djs have had this bypassed) so if the event is a n/soul event play northern not some wishy washy soft suthern funky discofied tripe in the hope that if they play it often enough we might like.

if ya wants a crackin w/ender get to brid last w/end in june .summat fer evrybody specially oldlies welcome ter join us

will do for me sis

with you all the way bro ktf

im the kind of person that likes to go to places, and to try out new venues etc, and unfortunately sometimes that comes with a price of having a shite night,lol.

the reason I posted this thread askin the question was because although the music has been part of my life and was into it before it became to be known as northern soul and friends like ken hancock and others who were older than me went to places like the torch and the twisted wheel and brought back sounds to die for ,quite profound for a then 14 yr old who listened in awe at the music which was played in our local youth club and even braved getting a good kicking to go to the georges in barnsley on a saturday afternoon to listen and dance to mitch rider, billy butler,al wilson. richard temple et al.. I grew up with it .it was my life up to being 20 ,then got married ,kids ,mortgage etc.. I never left the scene just made less visits to events, soul music was still the one and only .had a spell working abroad took the music with me ;dabbled in local politics .was a trade union official, in 84/85 during the miners strike we went picketting with .right track,landslide. little queenie and many more blasting out of our mini bus,the length and breadth of our fair country. divorced, remarried got back into this scene about 10 years ago ,vowed I woulldnt start collecting again just wanted to go and listen and dance...it was brilliant was amazed and awestruck at all the new to me sounds plus all the familiar oldies. just like old ..I knew instinctively a great track and those around me were in agreement.. friends suggested sounds and more often than not they were crackin sounds and I couldnt get enough. used to be one of the nerks that queud at brighouse at 7.30 ,thought tony banks was a genius, but in the last 2 or 3 years and to me its getting more perverse and insidious djs have started playing more and more disco/modern music ,which to me aint and never will be n/soul ,, yet the events I attend are usually billed as n/soul events. and when I comment on this I am shouted down and told to move on , I have stated before;; whats wrong with keeping the faith, or is that now old hat in the 21st century. I for one believe the scene is losing its working class roots and values and is in danger of becoming a middle aged, middle class, golf club type scene, and woe betide anyone who doesnt like the emporers new clothes.

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