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well it asking a lot for a young woman who probably goes out with her family (am assuming this ) to find some likeminded young people then find a venue , sound system etc when she already goes to established events , what we need to be doing is encouraging her and her friends to events and making them welcome . and definately not going over and piking at the record playing to see if its OVo

is it because its by the drifters ,music I liked and danced to in the mid to late 60s with sounds like SNATMovies etc .. we have always listened and danced to an eclectic mix of music and shouldnt close our eyes and ears to anything .

little queenie - Bil Blacks Combo classic rock and roll been played out since noah was a lad

ok so my friend who has just started dj,ing has been on the scene a long time as a punter and has amassed a decent collection with limited means and she is happy doing what she does quietly and without fuss a resident at one venue and the odd slot at others . but we all know what it is like to be young and patience dont come into it , and if we were to accept what some are saying then a long apprenticeship before you are even allowed to carry someones box is a requirement then dont be surprised if the youngsters go away because they aint going to wait till they are old to dj

would like to think this is the case throughout the land but we all know it isnt . its the mates merrygoround in most instances , and the never ending circle of records . young people may not have the means or depth of collections but they more than make up for this with enthusiasm and as shown on here a passion for the scene , we were young once and we had loads of young dj,s back then , to say we had the genuine articles back then and only played originals would be a lie , so lets get off our high horses and ask ourselves are we doing enough to encourage young people and women to participate

thats my point young people and women have a different take on things , we just seem to be stuck in a vicious circle where old men dominate the scene overwhelmingly.

yes back in the day it was hard chalky , started work at grimethorpe coliery when I was 15 working underground when I was 16 , no fooker gave me a hand or help , what a fookin dog in the manger attitude , asking for free passes and where the lazy twats comes from god only knows am glad your not my dad : )

in no have I said they should be allowed to play a box of boots but have said some young people have limited means and collections but want to dj , how do we help them . ask them to do the early spots for say maybe travel costs , cut them a bit of slack regarding the odd re release , boot or even dare I say it cd , lets make the effort and see what happens , this to me would do more to help offset what seems to be an aging scene and encourage more younsters to come through and stick with it

got to agree up to a point terry there arent many asians on the scene, but there are loads of women on the scene roughly 50 50 I would dare to suggest , and if we were to judge it by who takes the money on the doors then it would be a different answer, ps was at the spire the other nite Ian G played a blinder as per and had a great night

so then to answer the question are there younsters coming through is with regard to them dj,ing yes as long as they have done the leg work put the time in and aquired the records , which by the the time they have accomplished these they will be middle aged : )

as a promoter its your call and as you say you pick to whoever is best , am not asking for token gestures, there are as been pointed out loads of women and young dj,s out there who are capable of doing a great spot with OV ,

have already touched on your first sentence, but surely promoters could try and shake it up a bit and give more spots to women and young people and that we as punters should go to venues which promote females or younsters , which when given the opportunity I have done .

need a new laptop lol so we cant do anything other than accept the status quo then pete

its a good bet there will be no women playing either

well it would be easy to have a go most events list who is playing ,cant be arsed to do the maths though

a good friend of mine has recentley started dj,ing and was a resident at a local soul night , at first she just filled in the early spot . she struggled to add to her collection her husband is disabled and cant work she is only part time so money is tight , anyway the promoters asked her to dj the later spots and she reluctantly decided to do so, on her first main spot she played a boot and was hammered for this , but she had been asked to play it by a friend and she did state it wasnt a genuine record , but hey ho the third wiorld war kicked off she even got a barely concealed mention on here by a well known promoter, this shook her confidence somewhat but it made her more determined to play originals and she has scrimped and saved to aquire a decent set . which is fair enough but she is a determined woman and can easily see especially by some of the attitudes on here that women or youngsters can easily be put off.

maybe so; but there are in excess of 40 soul nights tonight (new years eve) would like to bet there are less than 10 female dj,s playing a set and even less under 25s

whats the solution then how do we break the old boy cycle and get more women and youngsters dj,ing because if we dont the scene is going to die sooner rather than later, I go out every w/end and travel ,attend mainly classic oldies but some atb venues and its the same old blokes playing the same old records with a few exceptions , many of these venues are well attended but its getting a bit jaded as far as Im concerned and believe its time we gave women and youngsters a throw of the dice .

wots with the boxing gif richard

just added on rich the first para is original

to take this on then , those who have the dosh and can buy a collection off the shelf and start their own night , niter, weekend are above the bottom rung and deserve to be heard. ? put another way then I win the lottery buy a collection (well got 40 odd years of listening to the music behind me ) start my own venue and pay the top dj,s to come and play, may have women only nights , who would come . ps or I could sell all my scooters and bikes ,

it was chalky that mentioned the 100 club and I responded to it , you asked me to explain my answer I thought it was patronising and gave a sarcastic answer , will apologise for my mistake in attributing the original remark to you.

the answer is no was just giving a sarcastic reply to what was a patronising responce wrt female dj,s christ read some of the posts on here , all I am saying is I refuse to accept the OVO status and would like to see more young people and women dj, ing ,

please note am not knocking or dissing any venue was just responding to what to me was a patronising responce to female dj,s