ImberBoy Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 When you pick up a Casino related CD, well the early ones any way, your head clicks into jukebox mode as you read down the list placing the tracks into your own personal boxes labelled, "Like it", "Hate it", "Ooh" and very rarely "Haven't heard that?" When I got "into" Northernsoul it was just after the wave had rolled back into the ocean, leaving a beach looking like Branscombe but littered with unwanted baggy trousers and circle skirts. There was a new "Cool" and an even bigger secret, gone now where the coach trips of Soulies smelling of Charlie and Tabac, gone now was the uniform that gave the game away. Contrary to popular belief, and "Northernsoul Myth", the music was still there and the so called new movement ushered in by Richard Serling and later Guy Henigan, Keb Darge, Dave Thorley and my fave, Pat Brady, didn't replace the tired oldies, it just gave us another dimension to the music. We seamed overnight to have gone from at best "Vesta curries" to "gourmet" and this was too rich for some taste buds. This was too much too soon for some and a lot of the "Old Guard" left leaving a younger, trendier and more adventurous "Soul Boy". I did like to consider my self the "new guard" I joined a small rank of soul fans who ventured out into the dark after the merry go round had stopped. I remember when Manifesto first came out and it was difficult to spot a new or strange face on the photographs and to hear, "I've seen you about" was a top compliment. I can still remember the first time I realised how diverse and exciting our music was when we went to "Bensons" in Bradford. If my memory serves, Pat Brady, Soul Sam and Arthur Fenn where the main line up? I heard so many new and exciting tracks at Bradford, the biggie at the time for me was "Alfie Davison Love Is Serious Business", well it was and I just couldn't get it out of my head. It was so clean and fresh well that was until some trendy bird in the queue at Bradford said that she was sick of hearing it, fooks sake it was hard to stay on top of these sounds. Thee top record for me personally is not a great favorite with most but I fell in love with Curtis How Can I Tell Her (12"). Charm City Records (US) / 1979 / DM 81853. I just love the way this clears the floor of some and drives other nuts! I have always been more interested in the dance side of our culture and too be honest for a long while I thought the collectors had some how missed the point, and some had lost the plot, mind you most of the old dancers now have lost the fookin plot but for different reasons! I would truly love to get a decent file of How Can I Tell Her for my PC, I know some hate it but it instantly makes me feel happy and young. Some of my other faves where ......... King Tutt You've Got Me Hung Up Eddie Holman This Could Be a Night to Remember Bill Harris Am I Cold, Am I Hot Bobby Sheen's 'Something New To Do' Alfie Davison Love Is Serious Business Greg Perry It Takes Heart Soul Bros. Inc. Pyramid Loads of wonderful memories, loads of wonderful tunes. Gotta say a big thank you to Dave Rimmer for taking so much time and effort into writing and recording so much of our history, and history is what it is.
Guest in town Mikey Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 I lent this plus The Sherries - put your arms around me, Artistics - Hope We Have and an original Exus trek to a guy from Gloucester to DJ with. A week later he 'moved' and nobody had a forwarding address. GGGGRRRRRRRR
Peter99 Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Some of my other faves where ......... King Tutt You've Got Me Hung Up Eddie Holman This Could Be a Night to Remember Bill Harris Am I Cold, Am I Hot Bobby Sheen's 'Something New To Do' Alfie Davison Love Is Serious Business Greg Perry It Takes Heart Soul Bros. Inc. Pyramid All of these are wicked tunes mate - I loved the scene at the time this lot were first being played. Curtis included.
ImberBoy Posted March 16, 2007 Author Posted March 16, 2007 How Can I Tell Her - Curtis any one got a file please?
Maxwell Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 It was a great place, seemed to be the cutting edge at the time, Johnny Bristol - love no longer has a hold on me Bobby Thurston - very last drop Lax - All my love all top tunes and got major label releases as well.
Sebastian Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 How Can I Tell Her - Curtis any one got a file please? Here's the CHARM CITY 1932 verison without the "boing boing" sound effects: Curtis - How Can I Tell Her - CHARM CITY 1932 10307 refosoul I'll upload the other one in a minute.
ImberBoy Posted March 16, 2007 Author Posted March 16, 2007 I can remember standing out side, the car park was just around the corner and we would watch all the pissed up birds leaving after a session in the Bier Keller. Down the street from Bensons was a caf and a few of the Hull lads used to meet there, we would some time narrowly miss a fight as we mingled with the piss heads leaving the place. As well as the nighters there were some top allayers there and the modern room was mixed with soul fans and those into electro. It was a great time for underground street music. Never Too Much & I wanted your love by Luther Vandross. J Blackfoot where is love and Ronnie Dyson Lady in Red, who would of thought that he would go on to become a major player in house hold appliances with his bag less vacuum cleaner!
Bazza Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 How Can I Tell Her - curtis - charm city (1879 mix) 16265 refosoul They are both Tripe Bazza
Sebastian Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 They are both Tripe Bazza No. They are both superb.
Peter99 Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 No. They are both superb. They certainly are - I always remember Hockey dancing to Curtis at Clifton Hall and Cleethorpes - and it took a special record to get him on dance floor!
ImberBoy Posted March 16, 2007 Author Posted March 16, 2007 Bazza "They are both Tripe" Bazza me old cock sparrow, your not putting enough pepper n vinegar on mate. Tripe tastes a lot better eaten this way. Forget cooking it with milk n onions that is fookin disgusting! Eat it cold drowned in vinegar (try chilli vinegar for an exotic yet satisfying change) with freshly cracked pepper :-) https://pitchblack70.tripod.com/gaijingirl/beeftripe.jpg
Guest Fatius Bumius Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Expected the 1879 mix to break out into "You Can Ring My Bell" Anita Ward 1st listen and I thought it was tripe lol, once the intro's out the way it gets a bit better.
Simon M Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) Nice description of the 2nd wave .. I never made it to Bensons though ATB Simon ps. Does anyone still like Pockets "Catch me" Arc 7 or 12 .. I think its great Edited March 16, 2007 by Simon M
Sebastian Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 ps. Does anyone still like Pockets "Catch me" Arc 7 or 12 .. I think its great A bit "high energy" that, isn't it... Insanely fast and yes, I like it. Have got it on some euro CBS release with a picture sleeve. Paid about £0.08 for it last summer...
Sean Hampsey Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 They certainly are - I always remember Hockey dancing to Curtis at Clifton Hall and Cleethorpes - and it took a special record to get him on dance floor! Yes, but he could bloody dance, couldn't he Peter. Ah yes... i remeber it well! Sean
Simon M Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 (edited) A bit "high energy" that, isn't it... Insanely fast and yes, I like it. Have got it on some euro CBS release with a picture sleeve. Paid about £0.08 for it last summer... Yeah it may need a pitch down on the Technics to stop heart failure these days , same goes for Bright Moments , Alan Harris , 1-20 connection etc etc Edited March 16, 2007 by Simon M
sepia Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 GOT THE 1879 MIX(WITH STARWARS EFFECT)FOR SALE. £20 FREE POSTAGE IF ANY1 INTERESTED. ITS VG++ JUST FEW MARKS ON LABEL. PM ME(PAYPAL ONLY). JUST A PLUG.
Peter99 Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Yes, but he could bloody dance, couldn't he Peter. Ah yes... i remeber it well! Sean Hi Sean He sure could - I saw him at the last Cleethorpes Winter Gardens do in February. And guess what? He was dancing to Curtis! I think it was Poke who spun it. I think I loved those After Dark times as much as you mate.
Guest Jamie Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Yes, but he could bloody dance, couldn't he Peter. Ah yes... i remeber it well! Sean Didn't he have a clothes shop in Leeds? If same bloke has a sister called Karen (she could dance too). My old man used to know him pretty well. Jamie
Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Didn't he have a clothes shop in Leeds? If same bloke has a sister called Karen (she could dance too). My old man used to know him pretty well. Jamie I dont think he had a clothes shop, works nights doing something sort of manual, god you can tell I'm a woman who pays attention . Originally from near Pontefract, living in Brighouse now. Dont know about a sister, but he runs the new do at Pontefract. When we went he had a t-shirt on that said"God is a dj" on the front & on the back it said "One number disciple". Came to Baby Jupiter once.
Guest Jamie Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Jamie I dont think he had a clothes shop, works nights doing something sort of manual, god you can tell I'm a woman who pays attention . Originally from near Pontefract, living in Brighouse now. Dont know about a sister, but he runs the new do at Pontefract. When we went he had a t-shirt on that said"God is a dj" on the front & on the back it said "One number disciple". Came to Baby Jupiter once. Maybe worked in a clothes shop, then? Wasn't it called 'Occi Mitzoki' or summat? before the Victorian Quarter went all posh. Remember him & Karen coming down to Soulsville.
Peter99 Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Didn't he have a clothes shop in Leeds? If same bloke has a sister called Karen (she could dance too). My old man used to know him pretty well. Jamie Hi Jamie I'm not sure about the clothes shop either? But I'm pretty sure he has a sister - but can't remember her name!!
Guest Jamie Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Hi Jamie I'm not sure about the clothes shop either? But I'm pretty sure he has a sister - but can't remember her name!! Maybe getting mixed up with someone else then!?? Mixed Race/Black guy? Jamie
Peter99 Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Maybe getting mixed up with someone else then!?? Mixed Race/Black guy? Jamie I think it's a different geezer Jamie. Hockey has fairly dark skin but I wouldn't describe him as being mixed race. He's a very skinny geezer!
Guest Jamie Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 I think it's a different geezer Jamie. Hockey has fairly dark skin but I wouldn't describe him as being mixed race. He's a very skinny geezer! Must be different guy then! Cheers Peter, J
Guest Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Maybe worked in a clothes shop, then? Wasn't it called 'Occi Mitzoki' or summat? before the Victorian Quarter went all posh. Remember him & Karen coming down to Soulsville. He came to Baby Jupiter when Sarah deejayed, only stayed for an hour or two early doors before heading off somewhere else. He's white & has dark hair, quite skinny, not bad looking & often dosent wear socks, isnt it funny what women notice . Have you made that name of that shop up, I know all the shops in Leeds & dont remember that one!. Did he run it with someone called Mitzoki I thought the Victorian Quarter had always been posh.
Simsy Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 Bill Harris Am I Cold, Am I Hot Bobby Sheen's 'Something New To Do' Alfie Davison Love Is Serious Business Greg Perry It Takes Heart And this one from the same time ... Lady are you crazy (For me) - Mel Hayes - Boogieman
ImberBoy Posted March 16, 2007 Author Posted March 16, 2007 Simsy, Lady are you crazy(For me) good call mate! The Moments nine Times
Peter99 Posted March 16, 2007 Posted March 16, 2007 I've lost track on this thread - what's it all about Alfie? Has Tyrone Barclay - Man of Value got anything to do with it? Or Larry "Top Cat" Houston - Spend Some Time Together? or have I just gone "Over the Top"
ImberBoy Posted March 16, 2007 Author Posted March 16, 2007 clever.............. I think your just messin with my mind! Can't you find Something New To Do, It's Not Where You Start, You Want To Change Me but I'm Giving It All To You ! If You Need More Time, there is always Heaven In The Afternoon but Is That Any Way To Treat A Lady? An Independant Woman!
ImberBoy Posted March 16, 2007 Author Posted March 16, 2007 Peter re my last post, I am not saying that I am a lady. I haven't been a lady since I got pissed up with a rather dodgy doctor in Thailand. During my ill-fated "Snip cock" sausage tour. Soul content.......... Patti and the Emblems - I'm Gonna Love You a Long, Long Time. Hutton, Bobby - Lend a Hand. Poets - She Blew a Good Thing. Tams - Hey Girl Don't Bother Me. Fascinations - Girls are Out to Get You. Porter, Nolan - If I Could Only Be Sure. Michael and Raymond - Man Without a Woman. Spellbinders - Help Me (Get Myself Back Together Again)
Guest Awake 502 Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 (edited) I can still remember the first time I realised how diverse and exciting our music was when we went to "Bensons" in Bradford. If my memory serves, Pat Brady, Soul Sam and Arthur Fenn where the main line up? Just found a listing of one of my old spots at Bensons, October 1983 Four Tops / Let me set you free Webster Lewis / Let me be the one Sydney Joe Qualls / I don't do this Detroit Spinners / Can't shake this feeling Ronnie Dyson / Lady in red Ujima / I'm not ready Cut glass / Alive with love Horizon / They don't make 'em like you Moody Scott / My lovely lady Jeannie Tracy / Making new friends Ivan Neville / Dance your blues away Solid gold revue / She's so good etc... Always used to end with Ronn Matlock / You got the best of me.... no politics, just great music.... Edited March 17, 2007 by Awake 502
Grumpyfella Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 (edited) just come in from pub so a bit tipsy!!!!! curtis 12" love it needs reactivating gonna play it at bluu moody scott question - i have an old tape from stafford i think - never went as just too young - one side is george sharpe top 6t's other is adam i think and he plays a moody scott tune or at least that's what he says- will that be the one mentioned above or is it something else? he played mind over matter? spell in his spot and the decks seem to die a couple of times doh!!! i think i'm p***ed cheers phil Edited March 17, 2007 by grumpyfella
Simon T Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Simon ps. Does anyone still like Pockets "Catch me" Arc 7 or 12 .. I think its great
Russ Vickers Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Here's the CHARM CITY 1932 verison without the "boing boing" sound effects: Curtis - How Can I Tell Her - CHARM CITY 1932 10307 refosoul I'll upload the other one in a minute. Think this was spken about recently..................so at the risk of going over old ground pse can you tell me about the availability of the 1932 mix, is it a 12 or 7, prefer this mix personally & need a copy............also how much, superior to the added sound effects to my ears. Thanks Russ
Simon M Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Simon ps. Does anyone still like Pockets "Catch me" Arc 7 or 12 .. I think its great Still got them both on WD, Simon, back in the mullet days ........................? Oh dear , I remember that Simon 1983/84 , Leon Bryant and Debarge copied your style mate ... I think Nige was still trying to look like Arnie
Simon M Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 My lovely lady - moody scott - straight ahead records 16306 refosoul Top record , always reminds me of Isley Brothers stuff , (not seen one for a while )
Billy Freemantle Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 (edited) Interesting thread. Especially for someone like me who never went anywhere after The Wheel closed. Is that this Modern Soul then? Afraid I probably agree with Bazza. Tripe to me. And ,Imberboy, I am a huge fan of cold tripe with malt vinegar. Used to have them drag it out of the soup in Turkey in the early 80s and stick it in the frezeer for half an hour before serving it to me. But back to Curtis. To me this just sounds like mainstream Disco. The Moody Scott is even worse. Edited March 17, 2007 by Billy Freemantle
Simon M Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Interesting thread. Especially for someone like me who never went anywhere after The Wheel closed. Is that this Modern Soul then? Afraid I probably agree with Bazza. Tripe to me. And ,Imberboy, I am a huge fan of cold tripe with malt vinegar. Used to have them drag it out of the soup in Turkey in the early 80s and stick it in the frezeer for half an hour before serving it to me. But back to Curtis. To me this just sounds like mainstream Disco. The Moody Scott is even worse. Did the Wheel close 1971 ? Man you missed loads of Disco stuff from Curtis , Levine , and even Searling
Grumpyfella Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 My lovely lady - moody scott - straight ahead records 16306 refosoul cheers thats the one thanks phil
Sebastian Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 Think this was spken about recently..................so at the risk of going over old ground pse can you tell me about the availability of the 1932 mix, is it a 12 or 7, prefer this mix personally & need a copy............also how much, superior to the added sound effects to my ears. 7" only as far as I know. I searched long and hard for the 1932 mix and then all of a sudden, 5 copies turned up in less than a month from different sources (not a "find", they just suddenly appeared, in conditions ranging from VG- to EX+). Now I only see the "common" mix 7"s being for sale. Don't think a lot of people think about it so you'll probably be able to get a copy on eBay for about the same price as the other one, but the 1932 one is a whole lot rarer.
Souljazera Posted March 17, 2007 Posted March 17, 2007 (edited) AWESOME RECORD ON BOTH 12 AND 7....ONE OF MY FAVES TOO....remember bywell gettin down to this...all the girls loved it too...always a winner along with roy dawson,king tutt and dustin wilson :thumbsup: HAPPY DAZE :thumbsup: anyone for the queens hall niters.....happy to buy back all the records we sold there....daybreak cloudburst cautions eric mercury(sac) etc etc etc oh and detroit sounds of friction!!! Edited March 17, 2007 by souljazera
Billy Freemantle Posted March 18, 2007 Posted March 18, 2007 And this one from the same time ... Lady are you crazy (For me) - Mel Hayes - Boogieman Quite like this. reminds me of the one to follow. Hokis Pokis - Swing
Peter99 Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 Peter re my last post, I am not saying that I am a lady. I haven't been a lady since I got pissed up with a rather dodgy doctor in Thailand. During my ill-fated "Snip cock" sausage tour. Soul content.......... Patti and the Emblems - I'm Gonna Love You a Long, Long Time. Hutton, Bobby - Lend a Hand. Poets - She Blew a Good Thing. Tams - Hey Girl Don't Bother Me. Fascinations - Girls are Out to Get You. Porter, Nolan - If I Could Only Be Sure. Michael and Raymond - Man Without a Woman. Spellbinders - Help Me (Get Myself Back Together Again) Not been on the pc since friday my friend - I used to think I could be funny - keep em coming!
Peter99 Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 I loved the Daybreak track - still do. I had a copy and sold it dirt cheap! Along with Charles Johnson, Mind and Matter, Swiss Movement, Bobby Reed, ZZ and Co, Greg Perry etc. Great music, great times.
Modernsoulsucks Posted March 19, 2007 Posted March 19, 2007 For Bazza and Billy I hate to blow my own trumpet but I did find that Curtis in Midwestern Distributors,St. Louis sometime in 79/80 and sold it to Richard. It was part of my cunning plan to discredit modern soul for all time so Im a bit perturbed to see that it's regarded as a classic by some nowadays. Would it have been a new release then. The place operated a "Disco Pool" and I remember all these Black DJs coming in and listening to a Sugar Hill release. I think it was "Birthday Party". With hindsight I shoulda brought that back and sold it to Richard instead!! ROD
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