gorgeous tune, what lable is this on and how much ?

thanks

jason

  arnie j said:

gorgeous tune, what lable is this on and how much ?

thanks

jason

Sidra local label out of Detroit - picked up by Capitol for national distribution.

Cheers

Richard

  arnie j said:

gorgeous tune, what lable is this on and how much ?

thanks

jason

Sidra & Capitol

Sold a Sidra demo recently for about £30, both sides are class underplayed detroit

cheers

Paul

  soul45s said:

Sidra & Capitol

Sold a Sidra demo recently for about £30, both sides are class underplayed detroit

cheers

Paul

thankyou guys, much appreciated

No worries Jason

The flip is Call On Me - a superb atmospheric mid-tempo Detroit number.

The Sidra release is on a green issue and a white promo. The white promo Sidra is the most desirable format I reckon.

John Manship's guide has the Sidra release at £50. I have seen the white promo at more. The Capitol release is a bit cheaper. Manship rates that at £30.

You can get cheaper if you shop around. It turns up enough on eBay

I think the Sidra and Capitol versions may be different mixes. I have this 45 on the Sidra green issue, Sidra white promo and on a Capitol yellow promo, but have never checked them together

Call On Me is on a Goldmine CD - a different but superb version with coughing at the start, but very, very moody - the CD is called Totally Solid Hitbound I think.

Cheers

Richard

Edited April 17, 200916 yr by Premium Stuff

  Premium Stuff said:

No worries Arnie

The flip is Call On Me - a superb atmospheric mid-tempo Detroit number.

The Sidra release is on a green issue and a white promo. The white promo Sidra is the most desirable format I reckon.

John Manship's guide has the Sidra release at £50. I have seen the white promo at more. The Capitol release is a bit cheaper. Manship rates that at £30.

You can get cheaper if you shop around. It turns up enough on eBay

I think the Sidra and Capitol versions may be different mixes. I have this 45 on the Sidra green issue, Sidra white promo and on a Capitol yellow promo, but have never checked them together

Call One Me is on a Goldmine CD - a different but superb version with coughing at the start, but very, very moody - the CD is called Totally Solid Hitbound I think.

Cheers

Richard

thanks again for some great info bud,thats what i love about this forum

  arnie j said:

thanks again for some great info bud,thats what i love about this forum

Sidra = styrene

Capitol = vinyl

I sold my Sidra copy and bought the vinyl as I think it might last longer.Apart from that not much in it. Ye ha Mr Terry!!!

Kev

  Kev Moore said:

Sidra = styrene

Capitol = vinyl

I sold my Sidra copy and bought the vinyl as I think it might last longer.Apart from that not much in it. Ye ha Mr Terry!!!

Kev

i thought the mix of the strings was a little different?.Better mix on Sidra? Maybe wrong...it has been known.

  KevH said:

i thought the mix of the strings was a little different?.Better mix on Sidra? Maybe wrong...it has been known.

Yeah. The Sidra cut is by far the best, the Capitol mix sounds 'dull'?

Reviving this old thread.

Recently picked up this one on the Barry label out of Canada.

Have seen it on Barry label listings but it must be quite obscure?

Cheers

Richard

Click on the image to see a larger picture

Edited December 15, 201212 yr by Premium Stuff

  On 15/12/2012 at 19:49, Premium Stuff said:

Reviving this old thread.

Recently picked up this one on the Barry label out of Canada.

Have seen it on Barry label listings but it must be quite obscure?

Cheers

Richard

Wow! I've never seen that before. It must be fairly rare.

I agree its a nice record.

Peter

Please delete

Edited December 16, 201212 yr by Premium Stuff

Here we go - got it to work.

Cheers

Richard

Barbara Mercer - So Real (Barry 3484X A)

https://soundcloud.com/user1502162/bar

Edited December 18, 201212 yr by Premium Stuff

https://soundcloud.com/user1502162/bar

Barry is the Sidra mix, isn't it? Great record though, whatever mix it is.

the sidra release also extists in a pink format

great double sider

SIDRA COPY IS GREEN LABEL - ONE ON MY SITE FOR 45-00

  On 17/12/2012 at 22:47, AGENTSMITH said:

the sidra release also extists in a pink format

You got a scan or any more info please?

Cheers

Richard

  On 17/12/2012 at 22:47, AGENTSMITH said:

the sidra release also extists in a pink format

Never seen that? Anyone have a scan? Same logo as the green or WDJ copies?

Regards,

Dave

"Call On Me" is, in my opinion, one of the greatest mid-tempo sides ever to come out of Detroit, and it's one I sorely regret parting with when I sold up in 2009.

Couldn't agree with you more,top draw sound at a bottom draw price.i seem to have seen more Sidra white promo copies up for sale recently than green stock copies. Chris

  On 18/12/2012 at 07:39, Premium Stuff said:

You got a scan or any more info please?

Cheers

Richard

  On 18/12/2012 at 09:15, Dave Moore said:

Never seen that? Anyone have a scan? Same logo as the green or WDJ copies?

Regards,

Dave

i dont personally have this, i can only state that i have seen a pink issue, totally legit ( not coloured in with a felt pen! ), probably the rarest format though opinion may suggest the green...definitely the same logo

  On 18/12/2012 at 20:41, AGENTSMITH said:

i dont personally have this, i can only state that i have seen a pink issue, totally legit ( not coloured in with a felt pen! ), probably the rarest format though opinion may suggest the green...definitely the same logo

I have never seen this so really interested in when/where this was etc. - basically the story behind it - not doubting, but just very interested

I have the green Sidra issue, the white Sidra DJ, and the yellow Capitol DJ.

Now I need the pink Sidra too :lol:

Anyone got a scan of a Capitol issue please?

Cheers

Richard

  On 18/12/2012 at 09:15, Dave Moore said:

Never seen that? Anyone have a scan? Same logo as the green or WDJ copies?

Regards,

Dave

I've seen a red pressing with the same label design as the green store stocker. I believe that it was a legit original issue (pressed at Columbia Midwest), with a stamp in the groove trail (but it was many, many years ago, so I can't remember, for sure, if I got a look at the groove trail.

  On 18/12/2012 at 20:47, RobbK said:

I've seen a red pressing with the same label design as the green store stocker. I believe that it was a legit original issue (pressed at Columbia Midwest), with a stamp in the groove trail (but it was many, many years ago, so I can't remember, for sure, if I got a look at the groove trail.

Could it have been Ronnie & Robyn instead of Barbara Mercer Robb?

Sidra #9006 and #9007 by them were both on red issues.

Cheers

Richard

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i suppose we could get into the debate of the different label designs and whose records are on what....but then we would get sidetracked!...the ronnie & robyn, embraceables appear in white & light turquois formats with a black bar across the top, sidra inserted in white letters and in a different font, whereas barbara, five of a kind and timmy willis appear on the plain background with sidra in bold letters....anyway, call on me/ so real IS without doubt, one of the finest double siders to be fortunately one of the cheapest bargains ever....and id say that just like everyone whose corresponded here, it really deserved to be a monster tune in its own right..ms. mercer also posessed a superb voice which appears on other labels/ under suedonyms ( lead vocals in groups ) i.e. embraceables, soulettes...if you wish to debate this as well, thats fine...imho its her on both of these productions.

  On 18/12/2012 at 21:15, AGENTSMITH said:

i suppose we could get into the debate of the different label designs and whose records are on what....but then we would get sidetracked!...the ronnie & robyn, embraceables appear in white & light turquois formats with a black bar across the top, sidra inserted in white letters and in a different font, whereas barbara, five of a kind and timmy willis appear on the plain background with sidra in bold letters....anyway, call on me/ so real IS without doubt, one of the finest double siders to be fortunately one of the cheapest bargains ever....and id say that just like everyone whose corresponded here, it really deserved to be a monster tune in its own right..ms. mercer also posessed a superb voice which appears on other labels/ under suedonyms ( lead vocals in groups ) i.e. embraceables, soulettes...if you wish to debate this as well, thats fine...imho its her on both of these productions.

Can't quite work out if you're going off on one here.

We all love the record mate.

Richard

think you're right rich

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ms. mercer also posessed a superb voice which appears on other labels

On Golden World it has always interested me that she is called Barbra Mercer not Barbara

I guess the fact she was (sometimes) a bit of a Diana Ross soundalike maybe didn't help her career - but when you listed to "Call On Me" it's clear to me who is the real star

Cheers

Richard

Barbara Mercer - Call On Me (Barry 3484X B)

https://soundcloud.com/user1502162/barbara-mercer-call-on-me

Edited December 18, 201212 yr by Premium Stuff

  On 18/12/2012 at 21:15, AGENTSMITH said:

i suppose we could get into the debate of the different label designs and whose records are on what....but then we would get sidetracked!...the ronnie & robyn, embraceables appear in white & light turquois formats with a black bar across the top, sidra inserted in white letters and in a different font, whereas barbara, five of a kind and timmy willis appear on the plain background with sidra in bold letters....anyway, call on me/ so real IS without doubt, one of the finest double siders to be fortunately one of the cheapest bargains ever....and id say that just like everyone whose corresponded here, it really deserved to be a monster tune in its own right..ms. mercer also posessed a superb voice which appears on other labels/ under suedonyms ( lead vocals in groups ) i.e. embraceables, soulettes...if you wish to debate this as well, thats fine...imho its her on both of these productions.

Just been listening to both sides of the soulettes and I think you are right about Barbara mercer being there lead vocalist,this is where the Dale Warren connection will come in. Chris

Wasn't Barbara Mercer also in the Sty-letts on PIllar (Sandy & Sty-letts on REM)?

Cheers

Richard

  On 19/12/2012 at 20:13, Premium Stuff said:

Wasn't Barbara Mercer also in the Sty-letts on PIllar (Sandy & Sty-letts on REM)?

Cheers

Richard

Excerpt from the Golden World Story on Soulful Detroit (thanks Soulful Detroit!):

Barbara had formerly been with a group by the name of the Styletts (sic) who recorded briefly for the Pillar label.

Cheers

Richard

Edited December 19, 201212 yr by Premium Stuff

I thought Pearl Jones sang lead on Embraceables?

Is this the titanic embracables as well as the sidra, from memory they sound like to different singers.

  On 19/12/2012 at 20:30, TRICKY said:

I thought Pearl Jones sang lead on Embraceables?

That's what I've always read. The lead of The Embraceables on Sidra sounds to me a lot more like Pearl Jones than like Barbara Mercer.

  On 19/12/2012 at 21:41, Prophonics 2029 said:

Is this the titanic embracables as well as the sidra, from memory they sound like to different singers.

Pearl Jones was supposed to be the lead singer of The Sidra Embraceables.

I just listened to "Let My Baby Go"-which sounds very like Pearl Jones, and "Here I Go", which sounds less like her, but still is clearly NOT Barbara Mercer.

Isn't The Embraceables on Titanic Records an L.A. production and label? There was an L.A. Group called The Embraceables, and I also have a record on a Nashville label by a similarly named group (but, I believe they are all Male.

Cheers Rob, I tried to find the Titanic one to find any credits but only found a Sandy and Dover labels.

I see the P Jones credit.

we've seen pictures of barbara before...any of pearl that can be posted up? can somebody also put up clips of the embraceables for comparison?. its also funny how they both got to record "give me another chance" both appeared to be unreleased tracks but the pearl jones turned up much later and then of course, there's also barbara's version of the creations "a dream" was that also unreleased?.

Yes. "A Dream" by Barbara Mercer was an unreleased Groovesville/Solid Hit recording that remained in the can. I don't think it had any connection to Sidra. That was either funded by Don Davis or LeBaron Taylor, or both, together. The Embraceables on Dover was the one I remembered, incorrectly, as being from Nashville. I don't have and haven't heard that one on Sandy Records. But, I believe that that is, like the group on Dover, a male group (possibly the same one?).