Guest Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 What do you reckon is the 'One Record' that compliments both differing scenes?? Probably loads of different opinions so will record prevail or will even two people agree on one? My choice would be 'Heartaches And Pain'-Pages But that's me,anyway Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 What do you reckon is the 'One Record' that compliments both differing scenes?? Probably loads of different opinions so will record prevail or will even two people agree on one? My choice would be 'Heartaches And Pain'-Pages But that's me,anyway Would have agreed with you in 1981 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Baz Atkinson Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 (edited) ID SAY JP ROBINSON BOTH SIDES ,you couLd get into a debate as to whether JP is a modern soul record BAZ A Edited April 8, 2009 by baz atkinson Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dundeedavie Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 i'd suggest northern and modern meet in a dark alley one night where northern can kick the shite out of the disco lover Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 i'd suggest northern and modern meet in a dark alley one night where northern can kick the shite out of the disco lover After such a typical comment I guess the tune ought to be "We Are One" UBP - but I guess not Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 My choice would be 'Heartaches And Pain'-Pages But that's me,anyway to me that is just an oldie...70's northern if you like but wouldn't think of it as modern. Is there any out and out modern that has crossed over to the northern rooms with any great success in recent times? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 to me that is just an oldie...70's northern if you like but wouldn't think of it as modern. Is there any out and out modern that has crossed over to the northern rooms with any great success in recent times? Hi Chalky Two that come to mind are: Love Don't Live - Michael Procter We Are One - UBP feat Bobby Pruitt must be others Barry Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Epic Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 The odd thing crosses over now & again - Joi Cardwell - Angie Stone - Mario Biondi etc. Strangely enough there was probably more "modern" tunes played in the mid to late seventies on the Northern scene than any other time - ie Gentlemen & Their Lady - Brainstorm - Eddie Holman - Gil Scott Heron - Norma Jenkins - Millie Jackson - Tavares - Moments - Larry Saunders etc were all reasonably popular as new releases on both scenes. You also have to bear in mind that certain factions of the Northern scene decided that early R&B records from the late 50s & early 60s was the way to go. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Epic Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 i'd suggest northern and modern meet in a dark alley one night where northern can kick the shite out of the disco lover The Northern fans would only get two blows in, then they would argue about who threw the first punch - or was it a kick - if it was a kick what sort of shoes were they wearing - were they original brogues or was it a loafer - if it was a loafer were they red or black & what length were the tassles. In the meantime the modern fans would have buggered off to the gig & just set about enjoying themselves on the dancefloor. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Davie Just tell me the name of the ALLEY i'LL BE IN MY FLARES AND YOU WILL GET THE BIGGEST LAPEL LASHING OF YOUR LIFE. VIOLENCE PROMOTES NOTHING APART FROM THE NEED FOR A FIRST AID KIT .. GMAN ...DISCO DANCER EXTRAORDINAIRE, "DO A LITTLE DANCE................. MAKE A LITTLE LOVE.........................GET DOWN TONIGHT" .JUSTi'd suggest northern and modern meet in a dark alley one night where northern can kick the shite out of the disco lover Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark B Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 o would have said cant remember the artist but a few years ago "so nobody else can hear" album track. mark Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dundeedavie Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 In the meantime the modern fans would have buggered off to the gig & just set about enjoying themselves on the dancefloor. is that before or after they raid their kids wardrobe to dress 25 years younger than they are Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest dundeedavie Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Davie Just tell me the name of the ALLEY i'LL BE IN MY FLARES AND YOU WILL GET THE BIGGEST LAPEL LASHING OF YOUR LIFE. VIOLENCE PROMOTES NOTHING APART FROM THE NEED FOR A FIRST AID KIT .. GMAN ...DISCO DANCER EXTRAORDINAIRE, "DO A LITTLE DANCE................. MAKE A LITTLE LOVE.........................GET DOWN TONIGHT" .JUST Hey us R&B types will be standing watching we're lovers not fighters Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stubbsy Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 to me that is just an oldie...70's northern if you like but wouldn't think of it as modern. Is there any out and out modern that has crossed over to the northern rooms with any great success in recent times? Joseph Webster? Or, was that first played in a northern room? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 who knows???? but WHAT A TUNE defo a modern monster for me..not northern IMO gman Joseph Webster? Or, was that first played in a northern room? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 They'd have to meet in a parallel universe nowadays.......... "Modern soul" tunes played in Northern rooms are generally played at least 5+ years after they feature in Modern rooms Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 What do you reckon is the 'One Record' that compliments both differing scenes?? Probably loads of different opinions so will record prevail or will even two people agree on one? My choice would be 'Heartaches And Pain'-Pages But that's me,anyway I can think of a few.. I've heard Mel Britt played in a few modern rooms, The Dells - Make sure as an ender, Curtis Mayfield - move on up frequently played in both, it's a modern room anthem, yet also played in a northern oldies spot. There are so many. All my favourite kinda thing. that Lenny Williams track that went on forever (gotta lotta love?), Ivan Mattias, Dry z Bone, all what I call 'northern modern' (the kinda stuff that gets played when a northern DJ does a modern spot!) not that there is anything wrong with that.. I'll stop digging now! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 They'd have to meet in a parallel universe nowadays.......... "Modern soul" tunes played in Northern rooms are generally played at least 5+ years after they feature in Modern rooms lol that's kinda what I meant too. Jayne.x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 lol that's kinda what I meant too. Jayne.x Its all NS if it gets played & danced to, why do we have to pick everything to bits, as said previously in my little world in the late seventies, it was all played in the same set without differentiating & I would dance to most records, I thought of it all as NS..............wish it was like that now, the best soul records all played in one venue, one room & you just all get on with it, if you dont like a record dont dance............ Where's Pete............? Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Russ Vickers Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 They'd have to meet in a parallel universe nowadays.......... "Modern soul" tunes played in Northern rooms are generally played at least 5+ years after they feature in Modern rooms DJ's will play an upfront 6ts tune, so why not play a suitable/appropriate new release or Modern tune.......just like it used to be, no bottle methinks , play everything thats any good together in one room...........the dancers will let you know what they like........... Russ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phil_H Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 DJ's will play an upfront 6ts tune, so why not play a suitable/appropriate new release or Modern tune.......just like it used to be, no bottle methinks , play everything thats any good together in one room...........the dancers will let you know what they like........... Russ That is a very good call , just leave out the late 50's early 60's R&B stuff Phil Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest James Trouble Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 to me that is just an oldie...70's northern if you like but wouldn't think of it as modern. Is there any out and out modern that has crossed over to the northern rooms with any great success in recent times? It would have to be Elipsis, innit. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Roger Williams Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Is there any out and out modern that has crossed over to the northern rooms with any great success in recent times? Usually anything that Soul Sam deems worthy of a play. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Epic Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) is that before or after they raid their kids wardrobe to dress 25 years younger than they are As opposed to the "sophisticated" look of 40 inch bags - badges & beer towels . Edited April 9, 2009 by epic Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Its all NS if it gets played & danced to, why do we have to pick everything to bits, as said previously in my little world in the late seventies, it was all played in the same set without differentiating & I would dance to most records, I thought of it all as NS..............wish it was like that now, the best soul records all played in one venue, one room & you just all get on with it, if you dont like a record dont dance............ Russ Right On Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stubbsy Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Right On Right on +1 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) i'd suggest northern and modern meet in a dark alley one night where northern can kick the shite out of the disco lover The northern fan, now 50+ throws the first frantic volly of punches. Then struggles to get his breath, has a massive heart attack and die's. Edited April 9, 2009 by Dave Thorley Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 The northern fan, now 50+ throws the first frantic volly of punchs. Then struggles to get his breath, has a massive heart attack and die's. But it doesn't matter since it's turned 2am, and the Modern fan has gone home for his bedtime Horlicks. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 But it doesn't matter since it's turned 2am, and the Modern fan has gone home for his bedtime Horlicks. You mean there are venues where people stay out after 2am Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dranny Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 But it doesn't matter since it's turned 2am, and the Modern fan has gone home for his bedtime Horlicks. Ohh eer missus Northern modern my arse iv,e always liked SOUL MUSIC its all Soul really David Ruffin Walk Away From Love Willie Tee Walkin Up A One Way Street do they come any better cu in the Scratchin Shed Dranny Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest sandi Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 DJ's will play an upfront 6ts tune, so why not play a suitable/appropriate new release or Modern tune.......just like it used to be, no bottle methinks , play everything thats any good together in one room...........the dancers will let you know what they like........... Russ TRUELY A MAN THAT SPEAKS MY LANGUAGE. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Its all NS if it gets played & danced to, why do we have to pick everything to bits, as said previously in my little world in the late seventies, it was all played in the same set without differentiating & I would dance to most records, I thought of it all as NS..............wish it was like that now, the best soul records all played in one venue, one room & you just all get on with it, if you dont like a record dont dance............ Russ Great post Russ. Like that even earlier as well, as the Mecca playlist thread shows. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Revilot1957 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Two songs sum-up the original question for me ......... Slap-Band in the middle of the weld (If indeed, there is one) ....... Voices of East Harlem - 'Cashing in'. Bobby Taylor - 'There are roses somewhere'. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) When you say "modern" do you mean "modern" as in today or the last few years or simply 70's northern oldies? Edited April 10, 2009 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest east rob Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) When you say "modern" do you mean "modern" as in today or the last few years or simply 70's northern oldies? a great modern tune that would go in todays northern rooms- tortured soul,"home to you" on dome records. modern as in today. cheers, rob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=affU0qItlW8 Edited April 10, 2009 by east rob Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 When you say "modern" do you mean "modern" as in today or the last few years or simply 70's northern oldies? I reckon it's become the most non-descriptive and often misused term on the scene, Chalks, (along with 'Crossover' of course ). The definitions seem to be so subjective and personal these days. The term Modern Soul has certainly lost any true and broadly accepted identity. The descriptions, I see on here, tend to fall under the following: Definition 1 - Modern Soul - Recently recorded Soul Music. Definition 2 - Modern soul - All Soul Music recorded after 1969 up until today. Definition 3 - Modern Soul - Any Soul Music from the 70's and Early 80's played on the Northern Scene. Definition 4 - Modern Soul - Not Northern. Definition 5 - Modern Soul - Disco. There may be other interpretations, but those tend to be the main ones. Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I reckon it's become the most non-descriptive and often misused term on the scene, Chalks, (along with 'Crossover' of course ). The definitions seem to be so subjective and personal these days. The term Modern Soul has certainly lost any true and broadly accepted identity. The descriptions, I see on here, tend to fall under the following: Definition 1 - Modern Soul - Recently recorded Soul Music. Definition 2 - Modern soul - All Soul Music recorded after 1969 up until today. Definition 3 - Modern Soul - Any Soul Music from the 70's and Early 80's played on the Northern Scene. Definition 4 - Modern Soul - Not Northern. Definition 5 - Modern Soul - Disco. There may be other interpretations, but those tend to be the main ones. Sean Too hot in the sun is it Sean ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Too hot in the sun is it Sean ? Got back last night Steve. Only managed to get on here a couple of times while away (too much Sun & Sangria)... so now I've got to get a few hours in to catch up . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 That was one helluva definition of Modern Soul,mate!!! Which one? Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
jocko Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Surely the answer is they once met on the dancefloor slapping high 5's while having a great time, where now they seem to meet at some darkened crossroads where some dodgy dealing has to be done before you can mix the 2!! Evolution not Revolution I seem to remember someone using as a slogan, at current rate of evolution records from the 80's should hit the current scene about 2075, when only the 2 15 year old DJ's will be alive!" As an aside I do think it quite amusing the number of crossover/modern bits that seem to be springing up out of recent converts and playlists consist of records that were so hammered 20 years ago they have become todays forgotten sounds, a bit of irony in there methinks , that and they fact they seem to be favouring cheesy sounds closer to Benny Troy than Bobby Womack makes me look forward to the evolving scene...............! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Surely the answer is they once met on the dancefloor slapping high 5's while having a great time, where now they seem to meet at some darkened crossroads where some dodgy dealing has to be done before you can mix the 2!! Evolution not Revolution I seem to remember someone using as a slogan, at current rate of evolution records from the 80's should hit the current scene about 2075, when only the 2 15 year old DJ's will be alive!" As an aside I do think it quite amusing the number of crossover/modern bits that seem to be springing up out of recent converts and playlists consist of records that were so hammered 20 years ago they have become todays forgotten sounds, a bit of irony in there methinks , that and they fact they seem to be favouring cheesy sounds closer to Benny Troy than Bobby Womack makes me look forward to the evolving scene...............! You've hit several nails absolutely on their heads there, and I look forward to agreeing with you even more entirely at Essence, whilst not quite the darkened crossroads, more of a well lit avenue Know what you mean about the recent converts too, still at least they made it over the line (well those that didn't bring Benny Troy with them that is ) See ya at the bar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 You've hit several nails absolutely on their heads there, and I look forward to agreeing with you even more entirely at Essence, whilst not quite the darkened crossroads, more of a well lit avenue Know what you mean about the recent converts too, still at least they made it over the line (well those that didn't bring Benny Troy with them that is ) See ya at the bar benny troy......he was brill at prestatyn....top modern tune lol Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 more of a well lit avenue A brightened boulevard, a radiant roadway, an enlightened esplanade! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 A brightened boulevard, a radiant roadway, an enlightened esplanade! Sean Poetic little bugger aren'tcha? Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 A brightened boulevard, a radiant roadway, an enlightened esplanade! Sean Right then......... A shining freeway, a resplendent highway, a glowing pathway Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Right then......... A shining freeway, a resplendent highway, a glowing pathway A brilliant boardwalk, a shining street, a twinkling terrace, a..... ... bit of a dive really! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cunnie Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 A brilliant boardwalk, a shining street, a twinkling terrace, a..... ... bit of a dive really! Remember where I live Sean? Quaint cobbled cul de sac or dreary dead end Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Remember where I live Sean? Quaint cobbled cul de sac or dreary dead end Aha! Which only goes to show.... Perception is Everything! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Wrongcrowd Posted April 11, 2009 Share Posted April 11, 2009 i'd suggest northern and modern meet in a dark alley one night where northern can kick the shite out of the disco lover Or they could meet like great friends in a place where there's no such thing as a musical divide........... Creative Soul.........Northern through Modern......and everything in between.........just great SOUL music Just the way it is Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Samson Posted April 13, 2009 Share Posted April 13, 2009 What do you reckon is the 'One Record' that compliments both differing scenes?? Probably loads of different opinions so will record prevail or will even two people agree on one? My choice would be 'Heartaches And Pain'-Pages But that's me,anyway I don't know. Can't just nail it to one.......it's like finding a corner in a round room. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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