Dave Moore Posted April 9, 2009 Posted April 9, 2009 Why wouldn't it seem right?.....if you want it, buy it.....I hope it comes downunder the media exposure here would ensure more expats that have 'moved on' would see that there is a vibrant scene here & rekindle their passion for the music they love. KTF Baz And maybe grab the attention of some younger fans. Ooh Err....God Forbid eh?
Guest bazabod_downunder Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Absoulutely not Dave, in fact you're right, may encourage some younger affectionados which there are already a few, they of course have to make way for all us old crustys on zimmer frames, wheelchairs & walking sticks....lol.....plus if Pete does win it I'm sure you'll get to see it before the rest of us. KTF Baz And maybe grab the attention of some younger fans. Ooh Err....God Forbid eh?
Guest Scobie Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Andy - how are you doing mate, good I hope. Now then, Johnny Coupland - I am sure that everybody on here from the Spalding area knows him - the last time I met up with him just a couple of years back, we talked at length about NS sounds & the scene in general & he definately would have mentioned it to me if he had a copy & he definately would have showed me. It says in the article that he won it on an american auction 10 years ago, I dont think so. I reckon if you check the date on the Lincs Free Press it was probably the April Fools issue, barring that its pure Bull Shit. I never have liked the Lincs Free Press or what they print after the front page who ha they made in 1974 about a doctors son being done for various drug offences, they did'nt even give me a chance to explain that I was merely carrying on the family trade. I dont think what they have printed is Johnny talking otherwise the whole world would have known about it before now. If I am wrong - good on im - scobie It's a big claim to make .. or is it just poor reporting ??
Guest Scobie Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 That must be due to the fact that another copy has surfaced in Spalding, without a tampered label, unless Johnny has already signed it Just out of interest as the price gone down since yesterday thought it was £18831 now its £18031
Guest Richard Bergman Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 I find it odd that someone would want to spend this amount of money on a below average soul record. It would appear that owning a Frank Wilson heralds the start of a mid life crisis, perhaps the bidder has also made a down payment on a motorbike. Who is the mystery bidder ? My money is on Freddie Goodwin.
Dave Rimmer Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 I find it odd that someone would want to spend this amount of money on a below average soul record. It would appear that owning a Frank Wilson heralds the start of a mid life crisis, perhaps the bidder has also made a down payment on a motorbike. Who is the mystery bidder ? My money is on Freddie Goodwin. The mystery bidder isn't a mystery at all. He's on SS using the same name
Rupert Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Andy - how are you doing mate, good I hope. Now then, Johnny Coupland - I am sure that everybody on here from the Spalding area knows him - the last time I met up with him just a couple of years back, we talked at length about NS sounds & the scene in general & he definately would have mentioned it to me if he had a copy & he definately would have showed me. It says in the article that he won it on an american auction 10 years ago, I dont think so. I reckon if you check the date on the Lincs Free Press it was probably the April Fools issue, barring that its pure Bull Shit. i'd say thats a bout right. 'bull shit'. its not that long ago that johnny had his shop in spalding and he never said anything about a frank wilson. i think it was just a plug for his soul night.
Guest Richard Bergman Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 The mystery bidder isn't a mystery at all. He's on SS using the same name Oh right. I stand corrected like the man in the orthopedic shoes.
Bigsoulman Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 Bidding seems to have stalled for the time being
Jumpinjoan Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 With regards to the writing on the label of a record, ordinarily it would reduce the value considerably. I'm not so sure in this case. FW is totally unique as far as records go and the writing on the label is part of the history and the provenance of the record. And provenance is a big thing when it comes to collecting anything.
Guest Scobie Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 When I buy on Ebay I use Bidnapper & leave a whacking bid that goes in at the last 2 or 3 seconds of the auction & can only be beaten by somebody more stupid than me that is also using Bidnapper, which is not usually the case. I am sure that nearly all those that are up for this 45 will have already placed an initial bid to enable registration for the final part of the auction but if they are sensible will not want to push the price up until the last 30 minutes or so. I doubt you can use Bidnapper on Johnnys auctions but the theory still remains. scobie (ex antique dealer & ringer ) Bidding seems to have stalled for the time being
Guest familytree Posted April 10, 2009 Posted April 10, 2009 With regards to the writing on the label of a record, ordinarily it would reduce the value considerably. I'm not so sure in this case. FW is totally unique as far as records go and the writing on the label is part of the history and the provenance of the record. And provenance is a big thing when it comes to collecting anything. yes i thought that joan but it was pointed out it says 'to kenny' then the signiture so they reckon thats whats devalued it but hey dont look like hes gonna lose out! x
Guest sjay Posted April 11, 2009 Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) When I buy on Ebay I use Bidnapper & leave a whacking bid that goes in at the last 2 or 3 seconds of the auction & can only be beaten by somebody more stupid than me that is also using Bidnapper, which is not usually the case. I am sure that nearly all those that are up for this 45 will have already placed an initial bid to enable registration for the final part of the auction but if they are sensible will not want to push the price up until the last 30 minutes or so. I doubt you can use Bidnapper on Johnnys auctions but the theory still remains. scobie (ex antique dealer & ringer ) Ex antique dealer and "ringer" now I wonder if any one knows what you mean youve made me wonder if I should set up a website ebayknockout.com it would be hard to work out the shares though (sorry antique dealers in joke) havent seen you for a while not looming in Spalding any more then?? I dont suppose you need any stock steve www.oldbarnantiques.co.uk Edited April 11, 2009 by sjay
Paul Byford 1 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Posted April 16, 2009 13 days to go and now £19518.Just out of interest what is the second/third highest prices paid for a rare soul 45?
Sutty Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 never mind the real USA one - what about this lot with money to throw down the pan! lol https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/auction/newli...tionItemID=4014
Soul Shrews Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 never mind the real USA one - what about this lot with money to throw down the pan! lol https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/auction/newli...tionItemID=4014 A shrewd move to put this on the same auction tho dontcha think ?? Cheers Paul
snooky Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 now up to £21,043, that really was my last bid, I rememeber Jonathan(son of sam)Woodcliffe asking me if i wanted FW,as he wanted my Robby Lawson,Jimmy Mack and Professionals,maybe i should have taken up the offer....i wanst sure if it was real as i had pressing of Eddie Foster and it looked better!!!!
Guest hatman Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 I remember being on the coach to St Ives when Jonathon let the FW slip from his hand and it rolled the full length of the bus!!
Samson Posted April 18, 2009 Posted April 18, 2009 surely some bright spark will print t shirts..." I BID ON FRANK WILSON"....... ...with label scan I'll take 2.
Guest Scobie Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 There you go I am mad enough Anybody that can afford to bid on Frank Wilson can afford to pay GBP25.00 for this unique high quality XL Tee Shirt If you are skinny I can make a different size. Price includes P&P by International Signed for post from Indonesia. Go for it !! KTF - Scobie BTW - whats it at now ?? Only 5 days to go. surely some bright spark will print t shirts..." I BID ON FRANK WILSON"....... ...with label scan
chrissie Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 BTW - whats it at now ?? Only 5 days to go. £24735 QoFxx
grant Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 never mind the real USA one - what about this lot with money to throw down the pan! lol https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/auction/newli...tionItemID=4014 ridiculous, not even rare, hoiw many were pressed, how many demos, must be hundreds
Guest MBarrett Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 The dollar is currently so strong against the pound . . . . . . 30% + up on where it was a year ago. That must surely up the ante that it will be heading to the U.S.??
Platters 81 Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 There you go I am mad enough Anybody that can afford to bid on Frank Wilson can afford to pay GBP25.00 for this unique high quality XL Tee Shirt If you are skinny I can make a different size. Price includes P&P by International Signed for post from Indonesia. Go for it !! KTF - Scobie BTW - whats it at now ?? Only 5 days to go. my commission is 5% of sales....
chrissie Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 Wasn't it up to £28k last week ? Well that's what was on the home page of JM this morning. QoFxx
Guest Lobster Madras Posted April 24, 2009 Posted April 24, 2009 ridiculous, not even rare, hoiw many were pressed, how many demos, must be hundreds Throwing money away... Not even that desirable, how much for a black IN pressing, then ? £50.. Truly bonkers , makes me feel better about my record buying, i feel almost sensible
Guest Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Well that's what was on the home page of JM this morning. QoFxx Wheres is gone, not on the auction list any more?????
De-to Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Wheres is gone, not on the auction list any more????? yes its gorn!!!!
Guest Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) They found out it was a karver? Or its Saturday morning and hasnt made an appearence yet?....its still in its trailor B) Edited April 25, 2009 by Guest
Dave Abbott Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 it's private auction now for those of us who already bid it's on the left of the home page now
De-to Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 They found out it was a karver? Or its Saturday morning and hasnt made an appearence yet?....its still in its trailor B)
Guest Matt Male Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Going by what it was before it went private i think early predictions of £30k will probably be just about right. I suppose we might never know the final figure.
Guest familytree Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 it's private auction now for those of us who already bid it's on the left of the home page now does that mean you cant watch even if you have joined johns site?????!!!! i want my 50p back then! grrrr x
Dave Abbott Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 the current price is on the front page...whether this updates automatically or manually...as in is it 'live'? i don't know. JM?
Guest milo761847 Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 See Manships gone private behind closed doors just to make even more frustrating. Private bidders only left. Looks like we will have to wait while end of auction to reveal final winning bid.
Guest milo761847 Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 Going by what it was before it went private i think early predictions of £30k will probably be just about right. I suppose we might never know the final figure. Wouldn't suprice me if someone whos minted comes in and buys the record. someone who probably has never heard it even played.
De-to Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 See Manships gone private behind closed doors just to make even more frustrating. Private bidders only left. Looks like we will have to wait while end of auction to reveal final winning bid. its all a bit sad imo,
Dysonsoul Posted April 25, 2009 Posted April 25, 2009 See Manships gone private behind closed doors just to make even more frustrating. Private bidders only left. Looks like we will have to wait while end of auction to reveal final winning bid. If you read the rules from the start you would know it was going private at some stage and the current price is always on show.....it's on John's front page. Chalky on Andy's PC
Guest Posted April 27, 2009 Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) it's private auction now for those of us who already bid it's on the left of the home page now Wear that shirt with pride Edited April 27, 2009 by Guest
Guest MBarrett Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Had it in my head that the auction was finishing tomorrow - but JM website now showing SOLD for £25742. Anyone claiming ownership . . . . . . . !!??
Godzilla Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 who ever is running a book on the winning bid price, put me down for £85,000. You may not be far off the mark there Jules... Btw: my bet: If it's Kenny's copy £35000, if it's a minter £60000. I would'nt bet against it Pete as I stated earlier theres a lot of people out there with a lot of money taboot It may not seem a sound investment to us at some of the prices quoted, but if this is a 100% 3rd copy in lets assume mint condition, then youre gonna see plenty of interest, and lets remember theres lots of millionaire collectors worlwide . I mean lets put it in perspective, to a very rich collector its £60k or maybe a new motor thats gonna be worth a few grand a few years down the line. The thing is Pete, to joe public like most of us on here, we have many many things we need money for, where bye there are a fotunate few who maybe dont have them worries, and fancy one of the worlds most elusive pieces of vinyl. so i predict well over £15,000 at least £30,000 or something it will go to and hoping it's a Northern soul collector. Jimmys Lambretta off Quadrophenia recently made gbp 36,000 , it was purchased by a nightclub owner in Scotland for display & as an investment ? Compared to the value of some of the items in the Hard Rock Cafes collection 50 grand for a Frank Wilson original would be peanuts & in the first instant allowable against tax. This record is unique - its the only copy with BIG felt writing on I think it will make big money. Goldmine suggesting $100 grand, there are a lot of very very wealthy music lovers out there, who would love to own the worlds most expensive 45, possibly not even caring about what the track sounds like or the meaning that it has for the Northern Soul Community. Thats my take - NB im sure it will do over 40k wonder if the motown demo with picture sleeve will go up? Sorry Guys!!!! No harm meant. Just couldn't resist
Diggin' Dave Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Well I wasn't that far off was I. (Just a mere £10000 )
Rob Wigley Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Bargain ! now to just find out who grabbed it answers on a post card please Rob
paup-ine Posted April 29, 2009 Posted April 29, 2009 Godz, how do you get all those snippets in one reply? (sorry off thread!) P Sorry Guys!!!! No harm meant. Just couldn't resist
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