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:thumbsup: Hi all I have to say I have so many faces number 1 has always been Green Onions? by Booker T & the MGs as it is for most of us old gits..

However and the list is endless with such classics as Rat Race, Walking the Duck, Afternoon on a Rhino and Even Choc-ice is in there as the first time I heard it played was by Ian Levine at an all dayer at the Cats Whisker Burnley 74.

my favourite is a semi instrumental by Bert Keyes that I got of Mick smith in 73..my number 1 should be the Bari Tack but that's No 2.

No 1 is also a record from Mick bout in late 72 THE INNOCENT BYSTANDERS class sound FRANTIC ESCAPE That I still have on RED & WHITE ATLANTIC DEMO over the years I have had 2 Pam-line copies orange & green being far rarer but my original copy is the one I love to play and would never sell.

Walking the Duck is No 3/.....there are a few naff ones as I have never had it or heard it as it would make me spew is the Dave Mcclure Disco Demand SOUNDS of LANCASHIRE version of SLICED TOMATOES/ :D

I will enjoy this list and how it progresses :D DAVE KIL

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I have always loved instrumentals but could never understand what made them soulfull but even now after 30 odd years when I hear the sax break in Thumb a Ride it never fails to get me right there , thats soul .

Least soulful Simon Sousans awful stylophone instrumentals .

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Until you flip it over and then get totally destroyed by the instrumental cut to "I have faith in you" - KILLER!!

...The other side of "Bari Track" is Doni Burdick's vocal version of "I Have Faith In You".

"Faith" by "The Detroit Symphony" is a Soussan job that was originally on the back of the acetates of the instrumental of "I Hurt On The Other Side".

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Three instrumentals that are genuinely soulful, none of 'em Northern:

Image - Hank Levine and his orchestra (ABC Paramount)

Theme From 'A Summer Place' - Percy Faith and his orchestra (Columbia)

Summertime - Booker T & the MGs (Stax

Non-soulful instrumentals?

Well, start with 'Bok To Bach' and work your way down, really...

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SOUNDS OF LANCASHIRE-SLICED TOMATOES was the B-side, BOK TO BAK was the A-side by them

and that's rubbish by FATHERS ANGELS as well..Cos it's rubbish end of... (but l did buy it by the former....

cos when you're 16 it's cool to buy anything on Disco Demand..even Kenny Bernard) where did it all go wrong??

:thumbsup: I think that the Fathers Angels are at least great Philadephia musitions who are better know as the Virtue backing band on many norther classics and later as MFSB the backing behind many great tune and also its rareaty as a UK single and sounds good to my ear holes but this is about yours and if you dont like it thats fine by me, :lol: DAVE KIL

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:unsure: I think that the Fathers Angels are at least great Philadephia musitions who are better know as the Virtue backing band on many norther classics and later as MFSB the backing behind many great tune and also its rareaty as a UK single and sounds good to my ear holes but this is about yours and if you dont like it thats fine by me, ph34r.gif DAVE KIL

I'm afraid that's a common misconception Dave. MFSB are definitely NOT the musicians on the track. There was actually a group of youngsters who played this.

See the Jerry Ross feature in There's That Beat! There's a pic and a little story about them, along with Father Angelo who was responsible for them getting together.

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Until you flip it over and then get totally destroyed by the instrumental cut to "I have faith in you" - KILLER!!

It hasn't got the instrumental cut of I Have Faith In You on it, it has the vocal, the instrumental wasn't released until about 1993 on the flip of a Barbara McNair bootleg, and even then it was at the wrong speed

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...The other side of "Bari Track" is Doni Burdick's vocal version of "I Have Faith In You".

"Faith" by "The Detroit Symphony" is a Soussan job that was originally on the back of the acetates of the instrumental of "I Hurt On The Other Side".

Tone, it is actually the proper backing track though, it's not actually recorded by SS

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It's pre 1970 Pete if that helps to ease the pain. I think it's a stunning bit of music but different strokes and all that.

No, nothing can help mate, sorry - I can't listen to any jazz music whatsoever, but I do appreciate that many people love it and many people probably can't understand why I like reggae and ska music. Like you say, different strokes.

Actually there was what I thought was going to be an interesting documentary on jazz last friday on BBC 4, 1959 The Year That Changed Jazz, but the music was so awful I had to switch it off (it was Miles Davis and the narrator said it was the greatest jazz record ever made)

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Tone, it is actually the proper backing track though, it's not actually recorded by SS

Pete,

I think what Tony's referring to is that SS was the source of the instrumental version.

I had a copy of that DCT Recorders acetate with Sid Barnes Orchestra / Detroit Symphony. The "I Have Faith..." track is the same as appeared on the back of the Barbara McNair boot - the volume drop-out and speed change at the begining are identical. Like to know where the old fox got it from though.

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Actually there was what I thought was going to be an interesting documentary on jazz last friday on BBC 4, 1959 The Year That Changed Jazz, but the music was so awful I had to switch it off (it was Miles Davis and the narrator said it was the greatest jazz record ever made)

Compared to the unholy racket of Ornette Coleman (same programme), Miles was sheer bliss.

I've loathed that kind of din for decades. Every so often I think, well, maybe as I've gotten older I'll see something in it that I didn't see when I was a kid, and I'll buy the latest upgrade of "A Love Supreme" or some other alleged John Coltrane masterpiece. And I always reach the same conclusion...

...Coltrane couldn't play his way out of a paper bag. The noise he made was little to do with jazz, and nothing whatsoever to do with music. Of any kind. And I'm saying that as a fan of some of the greatest jazz saxophonsists ever to pick up the instrument - Charlie Parker, Lester Young, Roland Alphonso etc.

It's not that I don't get it. It's that there's nothing to get.

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Pete,

Like to know where the old fox got it from though.

...Who, me or Soussan? As it happens my DCT acetate came from Bernie Golding, who got it from Soussan...

As Pete says, it is the Sidney Barnes backing track with extra strings (?). But it ain't half speeded up!

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...Who, me or Soussan? As it happens my DCT acetate came from Bernie Golding, who got it from Soussan...

As Pete says, it is the Sidney Barnes backing track with extra strings (?). But it ain't half speeded up!

I know what was on the DCT acetate - as I said, I had one. Please try to keep up Tony. :yes:

Those strings were synth ones too - same sort as on the Mirwood insts Simon did. As for the old Fox, I meant Soussan (soul fox..). Just wondered where he got the inst from.

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Compared to the unholy racket of Ornette Coleman (same programme), Miles was sheer bliss.

I've loathed that kind of din for decades. Every so often I think, well, maybe as I've gotten older I'll see something in it that I didn't see when I was a kid, and I'll buy the latest upgrade of "A Love Supreme" or some other alleged John Coltrane masterpiece. And I always reach the same conclusion...

...Coltrane couldn't play his way out of a paper bag. The noise he made was little to do with jazz, and nothing whatsoever to do with music. Of any kind. And I'm saying that as a fan of some of the greatest jazz saxophonsists ever to pick up the instrument - Charlie Parker, Lester Young, Roland Alphonso etc.

It's not that I don't get it. It's that there's nothing to get.

I don't like Coltrane's avante garde stuff, but "Dear Lord" from 1965 is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard

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Have always loved instrumentals, and my faves over the last 25 yrs would be, in no particular order :

Frank Foster - Harlem Rumble

The Dogs - Soul Step

Phenetics Band - Michigan Move

Total Eclipse - Six o'clock

Gasoline P/Clock - Forest Fire on Main St

Mike Vickers - On the Brink

BUT

Ramsay Lewis - Wade in the Water

Always pips them , infectious dance beat that you just gotta hit that floor !

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I agree about Frantic Escape - my fav instrumental :yes:

Not sure whether I'd call that soulful

but I love it too :D

Same as Billy Arnell instrumental, or the Chaumonts, or Fi-Yi, but I love them all the same

soulful instrumentals - maybe a stack of Jnr Walker, back to a debate about what's northern and what's soul

good thread :D

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I know what was on the DCT acetate - as I said, I had one. Please try to keep up Tony. :shades:

Those strings were synth ones too - same sort as on the Mirwood insts Simon did. As for the old Fox, I meant Soussan (soul fox..). Just wondered where he got the inst from.

Sorry, Godz, I didn't frame my reply properly. Too busy ranting about the worthlessness of Coltrane in the previous post, I guess.

However, I've played it again just now, and they're definitely real strings on this one. But I don't think they're additional strings, just the same ones as on Sidney's version, but brought further up in the mix.

I guess that SS must have gained access to the multi-track session tape from somewhere. But given that it lives in a tape vault in Nashville (and has done for many years) and Soussan was based on the West coast, it's a mystery as to how.

This must also have been one of his final 'tailor made's befire he went 'legit' with the Sharonettes etc., no?

Bottom line is that I still really like it, though, and speeding it up a bit (as he did) makes it an even better dancer. Pretty 'soulful', too!

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I love the instrumental to jimmy frasers of hopes dreams and tombstones sounds soulful to my old ears

Cant stand condition red

regards

Ian

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Green Onions - King Curtis - Atco LP (Awesome Version !!) did this ever come out on 45???

Swifty :)

Yeah, came out on Atco. I'll check the number.

Martyn

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