Guest wigantojapan Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 hi a wee bit info on this great sound please. I read it was unissued till it was released in japan in 1995 on p vine. it was then released on a kent cd forget the date. so i have seen it on a modern and a stateside demo price range from 25 -for a modern to 150 for a stateside,even manship sold for only 76 so whats going on. cheers
Andyf Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 hi a wee bit info on this great sound please. I read it was unissued till it was released in japan in 1995 on p vine. it was then released on a kent cd forget the date. so i have seen it on a modern and a stateside demo price range from 25 -for a modern to 150 for a stateside,even manship sold for only 76 so whats going on. cheers Issued on Modern 1026 in 1966 with You And Me Together as the flip. Isn't there a later release with the instrumental on the flip on a green Modern label?
Ady Croasdell Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 Issued on Modern 1026 in 1966 with You And Me Together as the flip. Isn't there a later release with the instrumental on the flip on a green Modern label? Simon Soussain boot I think, though it's conceivable the Biharis pressed it up for him legally, I doubt if we'll ever know!
Guest Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 hi a wee bit info on this great sound please. I read it was unissued till it was released in japan in 1995 on p vine. it was then released on a kent cd forget the date. so i have seen it on a modern and a stateside demo price range from 25 -for a modern to 150 for a stateside,even manship sold for only 76 so whats going on. cheers It was released in the Mid-Sixties on Modern label in the USA and Stateside label in the UK. Great record, but its not rare on USA label, so does not fetch high price. Its been on UK lists and in collections since the 60's, so the info you have read is not right. Popular at Manchesters Twisted Wheel allnighters etc.
Guest wigantojapan Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 It was released in the Mid-Sixties on Modern label in the USA and Stateside label in the UK. Great record, but its not rare on USA label, so does not fetch high price. Its been on UK lists and in collections since the 60's, so the info you have read is not right. Popular at Manchesters Twisted Wheel allnighters etc. anychance of someone posting images of an original and a boot please thanks for everyones in put
Nick Hackett Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 anychance of someone posting images of an original and a boot please thanks for everyones in put VERNON GARRETT IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME (D.Peoples) Arranged by Arthur Wright,Produced by Richard Parker YOU AND ME TOGETHER (Garrett) MODERN 1026
Guest wigantojapan Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 VERNON GARRETT IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME (D.Peoples) Arranged by Arthur Wright,Produced by Richard Parker YOU AND ME TOGETHER (Garrett) MODERN 1026
Guest wigantojapan Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Hi nik I take it thats the original. Can you possibly post a photo of the run out ,the matrix stamp number please. How much is an american original cheers
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 The instrumental is legally available on Kent's Vernon Garrett CD, by the way.
Gene-r Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Simon Soussain boot I think, though it's conceivable the Biharis pressed it up for him legally, I doubt if we'll ever know! Take it that the instrumental is actually taken from a master copy of the backing track, as (don't know if it's the same for Vernon Garrett), the same-looking boots of Lay This Burden Down by Mary Love have the instrumental which opens up with a great count-in (presumably Arthur Wright), clapping along as he shouts "1, 2, 1-2-3" - awesome!
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Take it that the instrumental is actually taken from a master copy of the backing track, as (don't know if it's the same for Vernon Garrett), the same-looking boots of Lay This Burden Down by Mary Love have the instrumental which opens up with a great count-in (presumably Arthur Wright), clapping along as he shouts "1, 2, 1-2-3" - awesome! Yes, it is taken from a master copy of the backing track - undoubtedly the same one that I used when we put it on the Vernon CD, as a bonus track, a couple of years ago. Same with Mary. I used to turn my nose up at these 45s all the time. Had them both on Stateside, wasn't interested in filling Soussan's pockets. Wouldn't mind owning both now, though.
Guest in town Mikey Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Any ideas on the price for a white demo? (USA)
Gene-r Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Any ideas on the price for a white demo? (USA) Recently sold mine for £25 - was near mint, but had a bit of writing on the label. I'd say, realistically, £35 - £40 for a mint white demo (though one major dealer wants £75 for theirs!).
Guest in town Mikey Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 Recently sold mine for £25 - was near mint, but had a bit of writing on the label. I'd say, realistically, £35 - £40 for a mint white demo (though one major dealer wants £75 for theirs!). Cheers Gene. Mine has writing on the lable too. Hmmmm
Keithw Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 Cheers Gene. Mine has writing on the lable too. Hmmmmi have a minter wdj somewhere 60-00 or offers if anyone wants it usa copy great early dancer from early days of northern
Millo Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 I have the red version with "you and me together" on the b side. I notice that hands of time side has two matrix numbers with one of them crossed out. Are they all like this?
Chris L Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 VERNON GARRETT IF I COULD TURN BACK THE HANDS OF TIME (D.Peoples) Arranged by Arthur Wright,Produced by Richard Parker YOU AND ME TOGETHER (Garrett) MODERN 1026 Another Arthur Wright masterpiece
Liamgp Posted September 2, 2014 Posted September 2, 2014 One on Ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vernon-Garrett-If-I-Could-Turn-Back-The-Hands-Modern-Northern-Soul-7/171442385516?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107083358%26meid%3D4040e85e8f174b88a216eb0837a297b8%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D20140107083358%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D360957822262
Robbk Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 I have the original, which I bought when it was out in 1966. I never paid attention to the crossout before. It had "MM-1026' first, and that was crossed out, and MM-1026-1 was added. Whay did they bother to cross out the first one. All they had to do was add the second dash and the one! Bizarre! I believe that the blue issue was a boot. I don't think Modern had legit light blue pressings.
Millo Posted September 3, 2014 Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) I have the original, which I bought when it was out in 1966. I never paid attention to the crossout before. It had "MM-1026' first, and that was crossed out, and MM-1026-1 was added. Whay did they bother to cross out the first one. All they had to do was add the second dash and the one! Bizarre! I believe that the blue issue was a boot. I don't think Modern had legit light blue pressings. Thanks for confirming that the cross out is on yours also Robb. I think that the reason was that there was an extra 0 (10026) in the crossed out first matrix number. Edited September 3, 2014 by Millo
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