45cellar Posted March 30, 2009 Author Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) In the bin!! ROD Not Even Thinking Of Selling It On & You're Probably Right, But Just Goes To Show How Difficult Grading Can Be Sometimes. I Took The Picture Yesterday, Sun Shining, To Show All The Surface Scratches. Edited March 30, 2009 by 45cellar
Guest Geoff Whitfield Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 I know what you mean Roger can be a mine field. funnily enough I have been thinking about this recently and some times you have a record that looks mint or close to it but has a lot of pops and crackles, and other times a record looks like it has been ice skated on and plays perfect. IMO play grade is more important than grading on what it looks like.
Hermanthegerman Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 I know what you mean Roger can be a mine field. funnily enough I have been thinking about this recently and some times you have a record that looks mint or close to it but has a lot of pops and crackles, and other times a record looks like it has been ice skated on and plays perfect. IMO play grade is more important than grading on what it looks like. Completely agree, so best service is to grade both, optical appearance and sound quality (or provide a soundclip).
Modernsoulsucks Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 I know what you mean Roger can be a mine field. funnily enough I have been thinking about this recently and some times you have a record that looks mint or close to it but has a lot of pops and crackles, and other times a record looks like it has been ice skated on and plays perfect. IMO play grade is more important than grading on what it looks like. I think Im right in saying that grading has always been on the basis of what it looks like. And whilst you're right that you can get visually Mint 45s that have a fault or poor sound quality it's often down to the actual pressing and it's not that common and maybe limited to the odd independent. You can grade both audio and visual but for a collectible 45 solely grading on audio, especially without a picture, is a no-no. Had Roger been selling that 45 I think most collectors would have sent it straight back had they bought it based on sound alone. ROD
45cellar Posted March 30, 2009 Author Posted March 30, 2009 I think Im right in saying that grading has always been on the basis of what it looks like. And whilst you're right that you can get visually Mint 45s that have a fault or poor sound quality it's often down to the actual pressing and it's not that common and maybe limited to the odd independent. You can grade both audio and visual but for a collectible 45 solely grading on audio, especially without a picture, is a no-no. Had Roger been selling that 45 I think most collectors would have sent it straight back had they bought it based on sound alone. ROD One Of The Records That I Have, Is A Stunning Copy Of Dee Dee Warwick - Monday, Monday - White DEMO. It Is Mint To Look At, Absolutely Perfect, Until It Is Played, I Think It's Needle Burn.
Guest Geoff Whitfield Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 Rod you are right about grading visually (and i know that you always had top notch quality for sale condition wise. I would always say looks vg plays ex for example. I know only too well about people on the net over grading it really annoys me, if anything if i sell on the net i always undergrade
45cellar Posted March 31, 2009 Author Posted March 31, 2009 surely this is not at 45rpm kev Should Be, It Is My Old Deck But Still Plays At 45 R.P.M. As Far As I Am Aware. It Was Recorded Straight Into The Sound Card, No Other Processing Other Than Upload To Soul Source From mp3.
Guest Posted April 2, 2009 Posted April 2, 2009 Completely agree, so best service is to grade both, optical appearance and sound quality (or provide a soundclip). i'd be ok with that if description said looks rough but sound is VG+ plays loud and clear. if it looked worse than that and sounded 100 times worse than it looked - but was advertised as "VG+ plays loud and clear", then i would not be a happy bunny
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