Guest east rob Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 the silhouettes on ebay from japan- label just looks too new. on the one i had it said "taken from the album get a job" ( i think) it is a while ago. any thoughts? cheers, rob. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 looks well dodgey to me stay away gasher Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phild Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 looks well dodgey to me stay away gasher Looks fine to me. But stay away anyway, cos I want it Phil Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest newone Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 the silhouettes on ebay from japan- label just looks too new. on the one i had it said "taken from the album get a job" ( i think) it is a while ago. any thoughts? cheers, rob. on manships auction at the moment, bottom of page u can compare the two Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 i was just jokin..it looks fine to mee too just not my thing so youre safe to go for it. gasher Looks fine to me. But stay away anyway, cos I want it Phil Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest newone Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 the silhouettes on ebay from japan- label just looks too new. on the one i had it said "taken from the album get a job" ( i think) it is a while ago. any thoughts? cheers, rob. he has fantastic feedback look what he sold admirations for got to be kosher Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Dave Turner Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 the silhouettes on ebay from japan- label just looks too new. on the one i had it said "taken from the album get a job" ( i think) it is a while ago. any thoughts? cheers, rob. Matches up with the scan here on page S5 https://labelscans.anorakrecords.de/home.html Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 just checked it with mine looks the real deal to me even the slightly off centre label Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ficklefingers Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 the silhouettes on ebay from japan- label just looks too new. on the one i had it said "taken from the album get a job" ( i think) it is a while ago. any thoughts? cheers, rob. The LP is what gave birth to the 45 - ONLY available as a 'Promo' item, and given away FREE inside the album. I've not looked at the one currently on ebay, but it SHOULD contain details on the label to the effect of; from the LP 'The Original And New '58/'68 Get A Job' along with 'PROMO'. If it DOESN'T display that info I (personally) wouldn't touch it with the proverbial Barge pole !! Fingers.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Potts Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 just checked it with mine looks the real deal to me even the slightly off centre label My labels slightly off centre as well. Bootlegs are a very pale shade of green. See below. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Johnmcc Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 the silhouettes on ebay from japan- label just looks too new. on the one i had it said "taken from the album get a job" ( i think) it is a while ago. any thoughts? cheers, rob. Looks good to me, and it's from a trusted, recommended seller. John Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest east rob Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 Looks good to me, and it's from a trusted, recommended seller. John ok chaps, i stand corrected. mind isnt what it was! i even forgot it was the same seller for the "peachy" one. & i was watching it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 ok chaps, i stand corrected. mind isnt what it was! i even forgot it was the same seller for the "peachy" one. & i was watching it! i think you should not bid just to be safe Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Raresoul45s Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 No worries with this guy as previously mentioned a trusted and much respected seller. Pops up on here from time to time. Best Darren www.raresoul45s.co.uk Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phild Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 As I said before NOBODY should bid on this. I'll bid on your behalf and when I win it I'll let you know if it's OK :D The things I do for folks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
De-to Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 a couple from popsike and look slightly pressed off centre, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Iancsloft Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I remember selling Dave Evison 3 copies of this mid 70,s for £5 each ..How times have changed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 The LP is what gave birth to the 45 - ONLY available as a 'Promo' item, and given away FREE inside the album. I've not looked at the one currently on ebay, but it SHOULD contain details on the label to the effect of; from the LP 'The Original And New '58/'68 Get A Job' along with 'PROMO'. If it DOESN'T display that info I (personally) wouldn't touch it with the proverbial Barge pole !! Fingers.. I remember many years ago an US seller found the album with the promo 45. He put both separately on Ebay, both starting at something like $49.99. The bids for the 45 went mental whereas only two people placed a bid on the album, which eventually sold for about $70. I was pretty happy for getting the album that cheap Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Headsy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 apparently the album sold around 200,000 copies, so that is 200,000 singles, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 apparently the album sold around 200,000 copies, so that is 200,000 singles, I guess 200 copies more likely I know for a fact that the group split up right after the album came out because of its non-success so rather unlikely it sold well isn't it? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Headsy Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Home | SiteMap | History | Discography | Reunion | Profiles | Lyrics | Trivia | Interview | Jukebox | Video 4: The New Silhouettes and Other Post-Silhouettes Groups from Love Played A Leading Part by Todd R Baptista (1996) In the late 1960s, The New Silhouettes continued to do live shows and club dates, keeping their sound alive. In 1968, an album merchandising agreement was made with the Sears and Roebuck company that resulted in the distribution of the group's first album. Titled The Original and New Silhouettes 58/68 Get A Job, the album was released on Goodway Records, a small company located on Roosevelt Boulevard in Philadelphia under the direction of Ed Cotlar. Cut at The Bell Studio in New York, it featured original versions of songs that spanned the group's career, from Get A Job and I Am Lonely to Rent Man and Climb Every Mountain. The album also included new recordings including a contemporary version of the 1930s tune Gaucho Serenade, and a soul-laced reworking of Get A Job. According to the sales figures given to Lewis, over 200,000 copies of the Goodway LP were sold through Sears. The album is a collector's item today with copies selling for $200-$800. A photo of Wilson, Lewis, Beal, and Brown appeared on the back of the album. Although Brown sang on the new recordings, the liner notes listed Otis Lewis as being the group's bass. In actuality, Otis Lewis served as a temporary replacement and did not record with The Silhouettes. Goodway also released a single from the album, Gaucho Serenade / Not Me Baby, which they included in the jacket of each LP. Disco enthusiasts have long pointed to Not Me Baby as being one of the earliest examples of that style. For this reason, demand for the record in America and overseas remains high. Soon thereafter, the acid rock and ever-present British groups had made it impossible for The New Silhouettes to find work. The number of live dates had dwindled, and without a record deal in sight, The New Silhouettes called it quits at the end of 1968. Next Intro | 1951-7 | 1957-61 | 1961-68 | 1968-93 Writing by Todd R Baptista TRB Enterprises, PO Box 50962, New Bedford, MA 02745-0033 Edited March 24, 2009 by headsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Headsy, I stand corrected (if that figure is correct). But it still puzzles why the album is so hard to find when it sold 200.000 copies? Should have been in the R&B charts with those sales figures? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Maxwell Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 he has fantastic feedback look what he sold admirations for got to be kosher have bought a couple of tunes from this seller, both in better condition than described, and posted and delivered in under a week! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Headsy, I stand corrected (if that figure is correct). But it still puzzles why the album is so hard to find when it sold 200.000 copies? Should have been in the R&B charts with those sales figures? There's just no way the album sold 200,000 copies. I think someone was boosting the sales figures for some reason. A little Philly company like Goodway would expect to sell circa 2K copies at the most on an oldies act like the Silhouettes if they were lucky. The single is dead rare in my opinion and I'd be surprised if there were any more than a couple of hundred total........ Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Looks absolutely fine to me and this seller always delivers quickly too. Never seen another with a company sleeve though (I suspect they were put together long after release but still looks good.) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Looks absolutely fine to me and this seller always delivers quickly too. Never seen another with a company sleeve though (I suspect they were put together long after release but still looks good.) Now That Does Look Nice Mate. I Bought My Copy Along With The Steinways On A Trip To Soul Bowl Back In The 70's. First Listen & I Bought Them Both, Didn't See The L.P. Just Told It Was Included In The Album As A Promotion. The First Time I Played It Out Following Purchase It Didn't Fill The Floor At All. The Steinways Struggled A Little Too As Most Liked The "My Hearts Not In It Anymore" Side. I Bought Them 'Cause I Liked Them, Still Love Them, And They Have Stood The Test Of Time. Edited March 24, 2009 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Never seen another with a company sleeve though (I suspect they were put together long after release but still looks good.) I notice that the 45 in that company sleeve has got a more modern typeface used for the lettering. Are both designs kosher? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I notice that the 45 in that company sleeve has got a more modern typeface used for the lettering. Are both designs kosher? Well spotted Sebastian. Why would they press this twice? If it was a promo for the LP it would most likely only have had one pressing. The one on the left is kosher but the one on the right doesn't look correct to me.......... Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ged Parker Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Well spotted Sebastian. Why would they press this twice? If it was a promo for the LP it would most likely only have had one pressing. The one on the left is kosher but the one on the right doesn't look correct to me.......... Ian D Now I'm worried they do look like different type sets. I've had it about 6 years and I was more worried about it arriving when I won it as it took over six weeks to come from the states I'll have to compare the run outs next time I'm at Middleton to be sure. The more I look the more the others all look the same and the less mine does. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) I notice that the 45 in that company sleeve has got a more modern typeface used for the lettering. Are both designs kosher? Well spotted Sebastian. Why would they press this twice? If it was a promo for the LP it would most likely only have had one pressing. The one on the left is kosher but the one on the right doesn't look correct to me.......... Ian D Yes,Sebastian, Well Spotted Mate. Looks absolutely fine to me and this seller always delivers quickly too. Never seen another with a company sleeve though (I suspect they were put together long after release but still looks good.) Did It Arrive With That Sleeve, Or Is Sleeve From A Different Source. The Sleeve Is So Eye Catching, Never Seen One Before, Worried That It May Have Been Used To Distract. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Questions Now Must Be, Are There Others (Surely Not A One Off) Whatever Its Origin, Where Are The Other Copies Like This. Definitive On The Amount Originally Made. Ians 200 Is Closer In My Opinion Than 200,000. Possibility Of Different Pressing Plants Involved At The Time. If 200 From 2,000 or Thereabouts Would More Than One Pressing Plant Be Involved. Edited March 24, 2009 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ian Dewhirst Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yes,Sebastian, Well Spotted Mate. Did It Arrive With That Sleeve, Or Is Sleeve From A Different Source. The Sleeve Is So Eye Catching, Never Seen One Before, Worried That It May Have Been Used To Distract. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Questions Now Must Be, Are There Others (Surely Not A One Off) Whatever Its Origin, Where Are The Other Copies Like This.Definitive On The Amount Originally Made. Ians 200 Is Closer In My Opinion Than 200,000.Possibility Of Different Pressing Plants Involved At The Time. If 200 From 2,000 or Thereabouts Would More Than One Pressing Plant Be Involved. Plus another couple of key questions:- 1) Is this the only known 45 release on Goodway? 2) If it is and it was a giveaway with the album, then why would they need to put it in a special Goodway 45 sleeve? No one would see it until after they'd bought the album, so anything other than a plain white sleeve would be a waste of money. The plot thickens........... Ian D Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 1) Is this the only known 45 release on Goodway? Ian D Yes, I believe so, Ian. LP is Goodway 100 45 is Goodway 101 You'd have to go a good...way before finding a better LP and 45 combo! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Here's The Matrix From My Copy. The Matrix Stamp Poorly Stamped "AUDIO MATRIX" I Think. Edited March 24, 2009 by 45cellar Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 The Sleeve Is So Eye Catching, Never Seen One Before, Worried That It May Have Been Used To Distract. The sleeve looks totally wrong to me. I immediately reacted to that the "Goodway Records Inc., 11401..." line seems to be written with the Century Gothic typface, a font that was introduced in 1991. That typeface obviously took inspiration from earlier fonts, but the a in Century Gothic is very distinct. Also... I just noticed... Philadelphia is mis-spelled Philidelphia in the address on the company sleeve... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Marc Forrest Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 (edited) The sleeve looks totally wrong to me. I immediately reacted to that the "Goodway Records Inc., 11401..." line seems to be written with the Century Gothic typface, a font that was introduced in 1991. That typeface obviously took inspiration from earlier fonts, but the a in Century Gothic is very distinct. Also... I just noticed... Philadelphia is mis-spelled Philidelphia in the address on the company sleeve... Well spotted my friend, I noticed the same..plus...no original company sleeves had been stamped back in the day...they all have been printed...plus...the logo in the top is not placed accurate as it is placed lower on the right side. Don`t believe that there have been ordered two different pressing runs with different label printings as well.. Marc Edited March 25, 2009 by Marc Forrest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Here's The Matrix From My Copy. The Matrix Stamp Poorly Stamped "AUDIO MATRIX" I Think. same as mine Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ficklefingers Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Must say that both Sebastian & Marc have made excellent observations !! I include a scan of the LP for comparison of font sizes, placement, etc - and add fuel to the flames concerning the company sleeve for the 45: There is no mention on the LP sleeve, WHATSOEVER, that there is a giveaway 45 contained in the album.. so WHY would they put the 45 in a company sleeve !?! Fingers Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulcarp Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 As I said before NOBODY should bid on this. I'll bid on your behalf and when I win it I'll let you know if it's OK The things I do for folks phil i recall this laying on you record room floor years ago after the leeds allnighter sure you had the l.p. to?am i right how's thing's regards john Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phild Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 phil i recall this laying on you record room floor years ago after the leeds allnighter sure you had the l.p. to?am i right how's thing's regards john Hi John, Going not too bad (still buying too many records ) How's things with you? You've got a good memory. I had an unopened copy of the LP with the 45 in it. Sold the 45, still have the LP. But would quite like the 45 again. Phil Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benelew Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Home | SiteMap | History | Discography | Reunion | Profiles | Lyrics | Trivia | Interview | Jukebox | Video 4: The New Silhouettes and Other Post-Silhouettes Groups from Love Played A Leading Part by Todd R Baptista (1996) In the late 1960s, The New Silhouettes continued to do live shows and club dates, keeping their sound alive. In 1968, an album merchandising agreement was made with the Sears and Roebuck company that resulted in the distribution of the group's first album. Titled The Original and New Silhouettes 58/68 Get A Job, the album was released on Goodway Records, a small company located on Roosevelt Boulevard in Philadelphia under the direction of Ed Cotlar. Cut at The Bell Studio in New York, it featured original versions of songs that spanned the group's career, from Get A Job and I Am Lonely to Rent Man and Climb Every Mountain. The album also included new recordings including a contemporary version of the 1930s tune Gaucho Serenade, and a soul-laced reworking of Get A Job. According to the sales figures given to Lewis, over 200,000 copies of the Goodway LP were sold through Sears. The album is a collector's item today with copies selling for $200-$800. A photo of Wilson, Lewis, Beal, and Brown appeared on the back of the album. Although Brown sang on the new recordings, the liner notes listed Otis Lewis as being the group's bass. In actuality, Otis Lewis served as a temporary replacement and did not record with The Silhouettes. Goodway also released a single from the album, Gaucho Serenade / Not Me Baby, which they included in the jacket of each LP. Disco enthusiasts have long pointed to Not Me Baby as being one of the earliest examples of that style. For this reason, demand for the record in America and overseas remains high. Soon thereafter, the acid rock and ever-present British groups had made it impossible for The New Silhouettes to find work. The number of live dates had dwindled, and without a record deal in sight, The New Silhouettes called it quits at the end of 1968. Next Intro | 1951-7 | 1957-61 | 1961-68 | 1968-93 Writing by Todd R Baptista TRB Enterprises, PO Box 50962, New Bedford, MA 02745-0033 Great informative post and intrigued by "Disco enthusiasts have long pointed to Not me baby as one of the earliest examples of that style...." eh! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 There is no mention on the LP sleeve, WHATSOEVER, that there is a giveaway 45 contained in the album.. so WHY would they put the 45 in a company sleeve !?! As far as I remember there was a sticker on the wrapping mentioning the 45 freebie. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Well spotted Sebastian. Why would they press this twice? If it was a promo for the LP it would most likely only have had one pressing. The one on the left is kosher but the one on the right doesn't look correct to me.......... Ian D SCAN NO 1 100% ORIGINAL SAME FONT AS PHILLY LABELS FAIRMOUNT, CAMEO, PARKWAY, SASSY, PARTYTIME ETC. SCAN NO 2 WELL DODGY . BRI PINCH. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 BRI PINCH. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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