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Tell me.

Does the fact that I burned bright, for fucking years, supporting this scene stand for nothing, now that I don't attend?

I still buy Northern, always have.

But it seems that the fact that I don't attend venues is seen to be my Achille's Heel, strangely.

Yes, I progressed, enjoyed and bought, LOVED, newer forms of black music - but my Desert Island Discs will always be my main Northern box.

Stands for nowt it seems on here, with certain others anyway.

Simply for having the heart to keep abreast of the ongoing progression of American, in the main, black music, seems to bring about the ire of others.

I understand this is a 'Northern' designated site, but the majority of my posts tend to be aimed at asking you to pin-point certain areas of this scene - the Northern scene, nothing else (look beyond my Bradford Disco Room heritage, that was two years of me at one venue - not all of me).

Now, I'm telling you, it's not hard to multi-task with black music, try it sometimes.

Don't diss - discuss.

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IT MEANS FUK ALL ONCE A SOULIE ..ALWAYS A SOULIE

YOU WILL NEVER LOOSE THE LOVE OF THE MUSIC..

I DONT GET OUT MUCH AT ALL DUE TO WORK OR FAMILY STUFF AND IF IM BRUTALLY

HONEST WHATS ON LOCALLY WITHOUT HAVING TO 300 MILE ROUND TRIP JUST AINT WORTH IT.

(APART FROM JOHN , ALAN AND ALI'S NIGHT IN DUNDEE)

ID RATHER SPEND MY HARD EARNED £££££'S

ON RESEARCHING,CHASING, FINDING AND BUYING THE MUSIC I LOVE SO MUCH

THEN PLAY THEM AT OUR SOUL NIGHTS AND LET THE CROWD JUDGE.

THAN ATTEND SOME HALF BAKED PISS POOR MUSIC QUALITY VENUE...JUST TO BE SEEN

IVE HEARD THE USUAL "HE DOESNT TRAVEL ANYWHERE " REMARKS BUT I DONT GIVE A TOSS..

I SPEND MY MONEY ON VINYL AND THAT FOR ME IS ENOUGH TO KEEP ME SOULIN.

DONT NEED THE APPROVAL OF SOME TWAT WHO DOESNT KNOW HIS SOUL FROM HIS HOLE.

I'LL STICK TO MY CHOICE..IM NOT A SHEEP OR A PUPPET THAT CAN BE MANIPULATED OR FEEL THAT I HAVE TO BE SEEN

PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM AND WHAT I STAND FOR...I LET MY RECORDS DO MY TALKING FOR ME ON THE DANCEFLOOR...

DO WHAT YOU LIKE, WHEN YOU LIKE, WHERE YOU LIKE...YOURE NO LESS A SOULIE IF YOU DONT TRAVEL..IMO

I STILL COULD TELL YOU MORE THAN HALF THE PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL EVERY WEEK ..JUST TO BE SEEN AROUND DOESNT MAKE YOU A BETTER OR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON...

WE ALL SUPPORT THE SCENE IN OUR OWN WAY .......................THIS IS MINE

GASHER

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Guest andyrattigan
Posted

Tell me.

Does the fact that I burned bright, for fucking years, supporting this scene stand for nothing, now that I don't attend?

I still buy Northern, always have.

But it seems that the fact that I don't attend venues is seen to be my Achille's Heel, strangely.

Yes, I progressed, enjoyed and bought, LOVED, newer forms of black music - but my Desert Island Discs will always be my main Northern box.

Stands for nowt it seems on here, with certain others anyway.

Simply for having the heart to keep abreast of the ongoing progression of American, in the main, black music, seems to bring about the ire of others.

I understand this is a 'Northern' designated site, but the majority of my posts tend to be aimed at asking you to pin-point certain areas of this scene - the Northern scene, nothing else (look beyond my Bradford Disco Room heritage, that was two years of me at one venue - not all of me).

Now, I'm telling you, it's not hard to multi-task with black music, try it sometimes.

Don't diss - discuss.

Why look for credit off any one on the scene in the first place? Do your own thing and feck the begrudgers. I love the music and couldnt give two friggs what any one thinks of me on the scene. People should take you as a person and leave it at that. I judge people on the scene in the same way I would any other person and that is by whether they are a decent person or a wonker. Their contribution to the scene doesnt come in to it for me.

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Why look for credit off any one on the scene in the first place? Do your own thing and feck the begrudgers. I love the music and couldnt give two friggs what any one thinks of me on the scene. People should take you as a person and leave it at that. I judge people on the scene in the same way I would any other person and that is by whether they are a decent person or a wonker. Their contribution to the scene doesnt come in to it for me.

My contribution to this wonderful scene Andy came from my heart and my feet, nowhere else.

I hope I didn't come across in any other manner?

Posted

JUST KEEPIN IT REAL BAZ :lol:

IM NOT LIVIN A LIE...I KNOW WHICH END I SHIT FROM ph34r.gif

IF ANYONE HAS AN ISSUE GRAB A TISSUE :lol:

GMAN

No need to answer Gasher.

Hall Of Fame answer mate.

Guest andyrattigan
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My contribution to this wonderful scene Andy came from my heart and my feet, nowhere else.

I hope I didn't come across in any other manner?

You came across fine Barry. All Im saying is I dont care what anyone thinks of me on the scene. I only get out every few months. When i get out I love dancing and totally immerse myslef in the music. Ive been in to Soul since I was 16 and have a put a lot of time and effort and money in to persuing this interest. Ive met mostly nice people on the secen but I come across a fair few idiots as well and lots of idiotic viewpoints I dont share. I hope people out and about would judge me on wheter Im a nice bloke or a wonker, depending on their viewpoint, rather than on my Soul Scene Status whatever the fcuk that is? Why look for any recognition of your contribution as you put it? Just do what you enjoy and let people think of you whatever they will. thumbsup.gif

Guest andyrattigan
Posted

Im at work now and can hear the birds chirping. Are you lot on night shifts as well?

Posted

YEP NIGHTSHIFT IS A GREAT TIME FOR CONTEMPLATION

AND REFLECTION....ITS BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE MADE ANYONES NIGHT... laugh.gif:lol::lol:

YOU NEED TO GET OUT MORE....OR SO THE "REAL SOULIES" TELL YOU .....HAHA

GMAN

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You came across fine Barry. All Im saying is I dont care what anyone thinks of me on the scene. I only get out every few months. When i get out I love dancing and totally immerse myslef in the music. Ive been in to Soul since I was 16 and have a put a lot of time and effort and money in to persuing this interest. Ive met mostly nice people on the secen but I come across a fair few idiots as well and lots of idiotic viewpoints I dont share. I hope people out and about would judge me on wheter Im a nice bloke or a wonker, depending on their viewpoint, rather than on my Soul Scene Status whatever the fcuk that is? Why look for any recognition of your contribution as you put it? Just do what you enjoy and let people think of you whatever they will. thumbsup.gif

Exactly Andy.

Personal persecution at the hands of this music takes much more vim than public exhibition to me, nice to see I'm not alone.

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SURE AM BUT I CANT HEAR ANYTHING APART FROM WAVES..IM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NORTH SEA NEAR NORWAY..

THOUGHT I HEARD A MERMAID EARLIER THOUGH.. NO BIRDS

GMAN

Im at work now and can hear the birds chirping. Are you lot on night shifts as well?
Guest andyrattigan
Posted

Im off for a coffee.

Later fellows! smile.gif


Posted

I'm so happy with that. :lol:

I FECKIN NOT..... :lol:unsure.gifsad.gif

LATER MATE IM OFF TO MY WANKING CHARIOT

WILL CHECK IN LATER FOR MORE BANTER SEE WHAT THE REST COME UP WITH...

GMAN

Posted

I'm so happy with that. :lol:

I FECKIN NOT..... :lol:unsure.gifsad.gif

LATER MATE IM OFF TO MY WANKING CHARIOT

WILL CHECK IN LATER FOR MORE BANTER SEE WHAT THE REST COME UP WITH...

GMAN

Good shout.

G'night.

Posted

If you once was an avid football follower home games and the all important away matches enjoying all of the build up to the games ringing round, saving cash, planning meetings, juggling loved ones and responsibilities, car sharing, services breakfasts, bleary eyed Mondays, the thrill of strange and some times intimidating new places, then Kudos to you!

If you are now at home watching it on TV telling every one who will listen "I was there" then join a internet forum and post in the early hours of the morning proclamations that you "still have it" and it has all changed since I was a lad...... then not so much Kudos don't you think?

Barry, arm chair fans are like old soldiers, they get a bit fookin boring after a while and very predictable indeed I know I am one of them.

You don't have to do nighters and you don't have to do soul nights but you can only comment about the music that is coming out of your speaker, you can not comment on today's scene unless you are part of it and immersing your self other wise its like watching a football game on TV, you will see every goal but the pies wont taste the same.

Today's scene is not last year, it is not Bradford, and it's definitely not Wigan Casino. There is a mega nostalgia scene but this is completely and I do mean completely different than "The Northernsoul Scene".

The music is the same....... well sort of?

The nostalgia scene has become a caricature of Wigan Casino I don't mean that every one is wearing Baggy Trousers but there is a reluctance to dance or hear new music that is epidemic in proportions.

I'll use Michael Jackson as an example, his early solo stuff was fantastic then he became a pastiche of his former self loosing his superbly brilliant originality to regurgitate time and time again crutch grabbing moon walking and idiotic posturing, we all like the music but no one wants to see Uncle knobhead don a sparkling glove at a wedding and go for it!

"Does the fact that I burned bright, for fucking years, supporting this scene stand for nothing, now that I don't attend?"

Yup didley fookin squat mate, sorry for the bad news but your now just a has been forum fighter ................. like me. smile.gif

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If you once was an avid football follower home games and the all important away matches enjoying all of the build up to the games ringing round, saving cash, planning meetings, juggling loved ones and responsibilities, car sharing, services breakfasts, bleary eyed Mondays, the thrill of strange and some times intimidating new places, then Kudos to you!

If you are now at home watching it on TV telling every one who will listen "I was there" then join a internet forum and post in the early hours of the morning proclamations that you "still have it" and it has all changed since I was a lad...... then not so much Kudos don't you think?

Barry, arm chair fans are like old soldiers, they get a bit fookin boring after a while and very predictable indeed I know I am one of them.

You don't have to do nighters and you don't have to do soul nights but you can only comment about the music that is coming out of your speaker, you can not comment on today's scene unless you are part of it and immersing your self other wise its like watching a football game on TV, you will see every goal but the pies wont taste the same.

Today's scene is not last year, it is not Bradford, and it's definitely not Wigan Casino. There is a mega nostalgia scene but this is completely and I do mean completely different than "The Northernsoul Scene".

The music is the same....... well sort of?

The nostalgia scene has become a caricature of Wigan Casino I don't mean that every one is wearing Baggy Trousers but there is a reluctance to dance or hear new music that is epidemic in proportions.

I'll use Michael Jackson as an example, his early solo stuff was fantastic then he became a pastiche of his former self loosing his superbly brilliant originality to regurgitate time and time again crutch grabbing moon walking and idiotic posturing, we all like the music but no one wants to see Uncle knobhead don a sparkling glove at a wedding and go for it!

"Does the fact that I burned bright, for fucking years, supporting this scene stand for nothing, now that I don't attend?"

Yup didley fookin squat mate, sorry for the bad news but your now just a has been forum fighter ................. like me. :rolleyes:

Not like you I'm sorry to tell you, you 'Forum Fighter' you.

I have spent the last 25 years playing music to people three to five nights a week, hence my Nighter non attendance.

I aim to make a difference with my weekends, spreading the word, unlike you 'Forum Fighters'.

Armchairs are something I pass out on after a night of keeping American black music alive.

Posted

I suppose its a matter of opinion. Some folks who never attended the dayers and nighters in their youth but now have jumped on the bandwagon of the scene could be judged as not full members, just as much as those who did the apprenticeship but have found the need to attend venues, not important or hard to do.

Those who have remained attendees from 14 years old up to date could 'pull rank' but not many do.

Northern Soul Freak / Northern Soul Obsession were popular terms back in the 70s and still apply today although the tilt may not be so much on the 'Northern'

In the great big melting pot theres room for all, so as long as you are happy with what you get out of it, just enjoy it.

Ed

Posted

I suppose its a matter of opinion. Some folks who never attended the dayers and nighters in their youth but now have jumped on the bandwagon of the scene could be judged as not full members, just as much as those who did the apprenticeship but have found the need to attend venues, not important or hard to do.

Those who have remained attendees from 14 years old up to date could 'pull rank' but not many do.

Northern Soul Freak / Northern Soul Obsession were popular terms back in the 70s and still apply today although the tilt may not be so much on the 'Northern'

In the great big melting pot theres room for all, so as long as you are happy with what you get out of it, just enjoy it.

Ed

Ed I agree to a point, the forum is the melting pot, not the "scene"

I compare it to the Manchester United fans, some travel the length and breadth of the country to support the team while others watch on Sky Sports, who are the real fans? The answer is both but it is those on the terraces who take the high ground, like it or not.

Banging away on a key board is not the fookin Northernsoul scene, it is no not not not not, never will be and never was any thing like!

You of course still have an opinion, every one does, and I will listen (read) every ones BUT The opinion of one who has just walked off the dance floor covered in sweat from giving it large to a tune compared to some one sat on a office type chair eating a beef sandwich and surfing between "Hot Juggs" and "Youtube", well I'm with the dancer ever time.

Oh and no you don't need to dance but you if we want to We can leave your friends behind 'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance Well they're no friends of mine I say, we can go where we want to A place where they will never find And we can act like we come from out of this world Leave the real one far behind And we can dance Safety dance Is it safe to dance Is it safe to dance.

Posted

To understand is a beautiful thing - it costs less and brings more.

Say what you want.

I understand...and it is so much more fulfilling, as you rely on no other than yourself.

A total, impregnable security.

Posted (edited)

I very rarely get out to soul events due to work so with the time I have I go to the odd scooter rally the soul that gets played at these events is usually predictable lowest common denominator stuff but still soul music.

Usually by the time I hit the floor I,m to pissed to care does that make me less of a soulie ?

I would quite happily dance to the snake in my local does that make me less of a soulie ?

There is nothing wrong with nostalgia events does that make me less of a soulie ?

Progresive/modern soul is great does that make me less of a soulie ?

I dont want to dance in a shopping centre does that make me less of a soulie ?

I fucking hate the term soulie and the idea that we need to qualify and analyse and prove our credentials I personaly dont give a f*** . KTF :ohmy:

Barry you are very subversive watch out for the soul snobs and soul police they are everywhere :lol:

Edited by Mark S
Guest in town Mikey
Posted

Did anybody else wonder why there was a thread about those wonderful Irish Rockers Therapy? on Soul Source? (Soul link, the brother of Dave the lead singer was landlord of the Water Rats, in Kings Cross, London when soul nights were held there.)

I'm getting all twisted and bitter. James Joyce is f###ing my sister.

Posted

IT MEANS FUK ALL ONCE A SOULIE ..ALWAYS A SOULIE

YOU WILL NEVER LOOSE THE LOVE OF THE MUSIC..

I DONT GET OUT MUCH AT ALL DUE TO WORK OR FAMILY STUFF AND IF IM BRUTALLY

HONEST WHATS ON LOCALLY WITHOUT HAVING TO 300 MILE ROUND TRIP JUST AINT WORTH IT.

(APART FROM JOHN , ALAN AND ALI'S NIGHT IN DUNDEE)

ID RATHER SPEND MY HARD EARNED £££££'S

ON RESEARCHING,CHASING, FINDING AND BUYING THE MUSIC I LOVE SO MUCH

THEN PLAY THEM AT OUR SOUL NIGHTS AND LET THE CROWD JUDGE.

THAN ATTEND SOME HALF BAKED PISS POOR MUSIC QUALITY VENUE...JUST TO BE SEEN

IVE HEARD THE USUAL "HE DOESNT TRAVEL ANYWHERE " REMARKS BUT I DONT GIVE A TOSS..

I SPEND MY MONEY ON VINYL AND THAT FOR ME IS ENOUGH TO KEEP ME SOULIN.

DONT NEED THE APPROVAL OF SOME TWAT WHO DOESNT KNOW HIS SOUL FROM HIS HOLE.

I'LL STICK TO MY CHOICE..IM NOT A SHEEP OR A PUPPET THAT CAN BE MANIPULATED OR FEEL THAT I HAVE TO BE SEEN

PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM AND WHAT I STAND FOR...I LET MY RECORDS DO MY TALKING FOR ME ON THE DANCEFLOOR...

DO WHAT YOU LIKE, WHEN YOU LIKE, WHERE YOU LIKE...YOURE NO LESS A SOULIE IF YOU DONT TRAVEL..IMO

I STILL COULD TELL YOU MORE THAN HALF THE PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL EVERY WEEK ..JUST TO BE SEEN AROUND DOESNT MAKE YOU A BETTER OR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON...

WE ALL SUPPORT THE SCENE IN OUR OWN WAY .......................THIS IS MINE

GASHER

LOL hey Gash i love the quote DOESNT KNOW HIS SOUL FROM HIS HOLE.

Posted

Did anybody else wonder why there was a thread about those wonderful Irish Rockers Therapy? on Soul Source? (Soul link, the brother of Dave the lead singer was landlord of the Water Rats, in Kings Cross, London when soul nights were held there.)

I'm getting all twisted and bitter. James Joyce is f###ing my sister.

Teethgrinder :g:

Guest in town Mikey
Posted

Teethgrinder :g:

When I saw you'd replied I knew you knew :D

Guest andyrattigan
Posted

I very rarely get out to soul events due to work so with the time I have I go to the odd scooter rally the soul that gets played at these events is usually predictable lowest common denominator stuff but still soul music.

Usually by the time I hit the floor I,m to pissed to care does that make me less of a soulie ?

I would quite happily dance to the snake in my local does that make me less of a soulie ?

There is nothing wrong with nostalgia events does that make me less of a soulie ?

Progresive/modern soul is great does that make me less of a soulie ?

I dont want to dance in a shopping centre does that make me less of a soulie ?

I fucking hate the term soulie and the idea that we need to qualify and analyse and prove our credentials I personaly dont give a f*** . KTF :(

Barry you are very subversive watch out for the soul snobs and soul police they are everywhere :lol:

We are talking the same language. :thumbsup:


Posted

thanks mate..i thought it was a good analogy...perfect for the situation.

but very true...some of these so called " LOOK AT ME I GO EVERYWHERE,self promoting DJ'S, I love me who do you love"

soul gods dont know their arse from their elbow..

WHEN THEY TELL ME THEY THOUGHT A FEMALE ARTIST WAS A BLOKE..says it all really

GASHER

LOL hey Gash i love the quote DOESNT KNOW HIS SOUL FROM HIS HOLE.

Posted

IT MEANS FUK ALL ONCE A SOULIE ..ALWAYS A SOULIE

YOU WILL NEVER LOOSE THE LOVE OF THE MUSIC..

I DONT GET OUT MUCH AT ALL DUE TO WORK OR FAMILY STUFF AND IF IM BRUTALLY

HONEST WHATS ON LOCALLY WITHOUT HAVING TO 300 MILE ROUND TRIP JUST AINT WORTH IT.

(APART FROM JOHN , ALAN AND ALI'S NIGHT IN DUNDEE)

ID RATHER SPEND MY HARD EARNED £££££'S

ON RESEARCHING,CHASING, FINDING AND BUYING THE MUSIC I LOVE SO MUCH

THEN PLAY THEM AT OUR SOUL NIGHTS AND LET THE CROWD JUDGE.

THAN ATTEND SOME HALF BAKED PISS POOR MUSIC QUALITY VENUE...JUST TO BE SEEN

IVE HEARD THE USUAL "HE DOESNT TRAVEL ANYWHERE " REMARKS BUT I DONT GIVE A TOSS..

I SPEND MY MONEY ON VINYL AND THAT FOR ME IS ENOUGH TO KEEP ME SOULIN.

DONT NEED THE APPROVAL OF SOME TWAT WHO DOESNT KNOW HIS SOUL FROM HIS HOLE.

I'LL STICK TO MY CHOICE..IM NOT A SHEEP OR A PUPPET THAT CAN BE MANIPULATED OR FEEL THAT I HAVE TO BE SEEN

PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM AND WHAT I STAND FOR...I LET MY RECORDS DO MY TALKING FOR ME ON THE DANCEFLOOR...

DO WHAT YOU LIKE, WHEN YOU LIKE, WHERE YOU LIKE...YOURE NO LESS A SOULIE IF YOU DONT TRAVEL..IMO

I STILL COULD TELL YOU MORE THAN HALF THE PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL EVERY WEEK ..JUST TO BE SEEN AROUND DOESNT MAKE YOU A BETTER OR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON...

WE ALL SUPPORT THE SCENE IN OUR OWN WAY .......................THIS IS MINE

GASHER

Was gonna put my bit in after reading the initial post but after reading yours Gash I no longer felt I had to, fucking awesome Mate and couldn't have put it better meself :thumbsup:

Div

Guest nomad
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IT MEANS FUK ALL ONCE A SOULIE ..ALWAYS A SOULIE

YOU WILL NEVER LOOSE THE LOVE OF THE MUSIC..

I DONT GET OUT MUCH AT ALL DUE TO WORK OR FAMILY STUFF AND IF IM BRUTALLY

HONEST WHATS ON LOCALLY WITHOUT HAVING TO 300 MILE ROUND TRIP JUST AINT WORTH IT.

(APART FROM JOHN , ALAN AND ALI'S NIGHT IN DUNDEE)

ID RATHER SPEND MY HARD EARNED £££££'S

ON RESEARCHING,CHASING, FINDING AND BUYING THE MUSIC I LOVE SO MUCH

THEN PLAY THEM AT OUR SOUL NIGHTS AND LET THE CROWD JUDGE.

THAN ATTEND SOME HALF BAKED PISS POOR MUSIC QUALITY VENUE...JUST TO BE SEEN

IVE HEARD THE USUAL "HE DOESNT TRAVEL ANYWHERE " REMARKS BUT I DONT GIVE A TOSS..

I SPEND MY MONEY ON VINYL AND THAT FOR ME IS ENOUGH TO KEEP ME SOULIN.

DONT NEED THE APPROVAL OF SOME TWAT WHO DOESNT KNOW HIS SOUL FROM HIS HOLE.

I'LL STICK TO MY CHOICE..IM NOT A SHEEP OR A PUPPET THAT CAN BE MANIPULATED OR FEEL THAT I HAVE TO BE SEEN

PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM AND WHAT I STAND FOR...I LET MY RECORDS DO MY TALKING FOR ME ON THE DANCEFLOOR...

DO WHAT YOU LIKE, WHEN YOU LIKE, WHERE YOU LIKE...YOURE NO LESS A SOULIE IF YOU DONT TRAVEL..IMO

I STILL COULD TELL YOU MORE THAN HALF THE PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL EVERY WEEK ..JUST TO BE SEEN AROUND DOESNT MAKE YOU A BETTER OR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON...

WE ALL SUPPORT THE SCENE IN OUR OWN WAY .......................THIS IS MINE

GASHER

Just read this, well put, Why should you change what you do to please others. At least you cant be accused of being false like some of the self assumed 'experts' that post on here. Its refreshing to read views of yourself and others like you

Keep it up(thats if you want to)

Nomad

Guest WPaulVanDyk
Posted

I don't think anyone should change on here but if your into Northern soul then so be it your a fan but if you can get out to venues do so and some people only stopped going when they had other things to do but can come back.

Posted

I very rarely get out to soul events due to work so with the time I have I go to the odd scooter rally the soul that gets played at these events is usually predictable lowest common denominator stuff but still soul music.

Usually by the time I hit the floor I,m to pissed to care does that make me less of a soulie ?

I would quite happily dance to the snake in my local does that make me less of a soulie ?

There is nothing wrong with nostalgia events does that make me less of a soulie ?

Progresive/modern soul is great does that make me less of a soulie ?

I dont want to dance in a shopping centre does that make me less of a soulie ?

I fucking hate the term soulie and the idea that we need to qualify and analyse and prove our credentials I personaly dont give a f*** . KTF :lol:

Barry you are very subversive watch out for the soul snobs and soul police they are everywhere ohmy.gif

Post 67 Mark.

Mark that down as one of your best. :thumbup:

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