Levine In "comeback" Gig In Edinburgh

[Guest]

You're mixing him up with Simon Soussan who was Lebanese!

??????? Are you sure Ady, I thought he was from Florida?

[Guest Stuart T]

Nah, thats Mickey Mouse.

[Guest]

Leabanese? Does that mean he only sleeps with women?

[Guest]

Leabanese? Does that mean he only sleeps with women?

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Edited May 26, 2005 by BLADEFORLIFE

[Guest]

Leabanese? Does that mean he only sleeps with women?

[Pete S]

Disagree. 

He may have had a reasonable but sizeable collection but he hardly had the sounds to compete with the top DJs, which is what he wanted to do.  In fact looking at his early come back playllists it is questionable whether he should have been behind the decks at all apart from on his past reputation, allegations that he was playing bootlegs as well tend to indicate that he lacked good quality originals. 

He was buying piles of old crap being offloaded by every dealer under the sun at one stage, eventually he started building a reasonable set of discs, nothing that special by the looks of it, can't say from that many would be that jealous.  No wonder he had to make his two biggest sounds himself (4Vs and Venetia Wotsit).

Vaguely remember some Contours (?) track he had as well where the dubbed over piano intro sounds so like it could be Ian Levine playing... PMSL ridiculous man.

link

Come off it, he had some great records, I sold him loads out of my own collection and loads of other people sold him top sounds. He just chose not to play them in favour of trying to break some new sounds which he thought would be perfect for todays scene. Yes he was wrong in the main but fair play to him for having a go.

And the Venicia Wilson record is brilliant.

[Makemvinyl]

Levine?...comeback? Kill me now!! PLEASE!!

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sharing top billing

IAN LEVINE AND RUSS WINSTANLEY

TUT TUT

hermans hermits classic A Must to Avoid

follow your heart

or Yesterday is Gone THE VARIATIONS ON OKEH

DOUG

[Guest remus]

Come off it, he had some great records, I sold him loads out of my own collection and loads of other people sold him top sounds.  He just chose not to play them in favour of trying to break some new sounds which he thought would be perfect for todays scene.  Yes he was wrong in the main but fair play to him for having a go.

And the Venicia Wilson record is brilliant.

link

only heard him play out twice, once at 100club, pretty basic from what I remember, at the rocket in the modern room, that was a disater.

Can you list some of the new sounds he was trying to break?

[Guest]

Jim Gilstrap

Blendells

Adam Wade

He was good at the 100 club-I was there. Packed floor but too fast and stompy maybe. The Rocket Modern room he played mainly Mecca type stuff which some loved and ohers didn't get. But some forget Ian virtually invented Modern Soul anyway.

Edited May 26, 2005 by Simon White

[Pete S]

Can you list some of the new sounds he was trying to break?

link

No, I've forgot them all.

But he reviewed at least 50 in Togetherness magazine.

[Guest]

'ere, we getting paid for all this free publicity we're giving them?

[Bigsoulman]

only heard him play out twice, once at 100club, pretty basic from what I remember, at the rocket in the modern room, that was a disater.

Can you list some of the new sounds he was trying to break?

link

Only heard him once at the Cala Gran a couple of years ago and all he did was talk over the records he was playing saying that he discovered it ect ect which he probably did and credit to him but he was really getting on a lot of peoples tits with endless chat

[Guest]

LOL he really fucked up at the Cala Gran- some great records tough including the awesome Bobby Sheen "If I Ever Dreamed I Hurt You" which sounded so fantastic I couldn't beleive it.

[Guest]

It is great to hear that this night is causing a stir amongst this tight knit community.

This is the first time I have been on this forum. I want to introduce myself. I'm the promoter of Soul Sauce, my name is Eric Roberts, I make no attempt to hide my identity and am happy to stand by my opinions and equally as happy to respect other peoples. I love music but don't tend to indulge in idle chatter.

I also make no secret of the fact that I have enlisted the help of two well-known specialist DJs. They will assist with promotion and help put together the DJ line up to ensure the more the serious soul connoisseurs among you find the content of Soul Sauce fulfilling.

Having been a promoter in Scotland for around 7 years, I have grown to love all kinds of music anything from across the 'black' musical spectrum to the output of all the white 'brothers and sisters' who feel the funk and have got a good groove. A lot of you will have been to nights I've promoted (Artists such as Roy Ayers, Lonnie Liston Smith, Azymuth, Seun Kuti & Egypt 80 as well as clubs such as Fleamarket Funk, Get-Together, Trouble and the Funk Room). I understand a lot of people who post on this forum may have attended the recent Soul Scotland Special I organised at the Arches in April. I hoped it might bring everyone together for a great party and help dissolve any back-stabbing and jealousy. I thought the event was a success and we had gone some way to stop the rot.

I am hurt that someone has accused me of only being in to promoting because of the money. Everyone who has promoted their own night will understand how the costs build up and how difficult it can actually be to break even let alone make money. Printing of flyers, posters, venue hire, PA hire, websites, staff on the night and media distribution all either cost a lot of money or take a lot of time. Then if you want to bring a DJ up from London there are inevitable fees, flights, hotels and per diems for the artist. This is why we need to charge such a high ticket price. I hope everyone can understand this.

Please let me reassure you, over the years I have lost a lot more cash than I have made. I promote gigs and clubs because I am addicted to seeing a dancefloor full of smiling faces, not to line my pockets.

This night came about because my ex-girlfriend interviewed Ian Levine around 18 months ago. He told her he loved DJing but didn't get offered many gigs because of the hatred surrounding him. It took quite a lot of convincing him, but he came round because we told him that the majority of people out there still love him and what he has achieved. I make no excuses if people feel he has done them wrong, but we must respect him as a human being. If it wasn't for Ian, there is little doubt that we still would not know about a lot of soul records... and we would still be unearthing them today.

All those who want to celebrate an intimate, friendly atmosphere and hear what the most forward thinking, dedicated soul DJ the UK has ever produced is welcome. I know a lot of you have fairly valid reasons for not liking what has happened, but please don't try and ruin the fun for those who respect him. Leave any bad attitudes and home and join together for one very special party with a collection of some of Scotland's finest soul selectors. You would be a fool to miss it.

[Bigsoulman]

LOL he really fucked up at the Cala Gran- some great records tough including the awesome Bobby Sheen "If I Ever Dreamed I Hurt You" which sounded so fantastic I couldn't beleive it.

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You're right Si, what an awesome record that is, anybody got a file?

[Guest hammy]

No, I've forgot them all.

But he reviewed at least 50 in Togetherness magazine.

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Was the quite tremendous Joey Scarbury - Midnight Mail on DUNHILL in there ?

That was one of his tips wasn't it?

For those who haven't heard it, think Dennis Waterman doing something for the old folks to get them up dancing.

Hammy

[Guest dundeedavie]

.  You would be a fool to miss it.

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i think i must be a fool then

Davie

[Bigsoulman]

It is great to hear that this night is causing a stir amongst this tight knit community.

This is the first time I have been on this forum.  I want to introduce myself.  I'm the promoter of Soul Sauce, my name is Eric Roberts, I make no attempt to hide my identity and am happy to stand by my opinions and equally as happy to respect other peoples.  I love music but don't tend to indulge in idle chatter.

I also make no secret of the fact that I have enlisted the help of two well-known specialist DJs.  They will assist with promotion and help put together the DJ line up to ensure the more the serious soul connoisseurs among you find the content of Soul Sauce fulfilling.

Having been a promoter in Scotland for around 7 years, I have grown to love all kinds of music anything from across the 'black' musical spectrum to the output of all the white 'brothers and sisters' who feel the funk and have got a good groove.  A lot of you will have been to nights I've promoted (Artists such as Roy Ayers, Lonnie Liston Smith, Azymuth, Seun Kuti & Egypt 80 as well as clubs such as Fleamarket Funk, Get-Together, Trouble and the Funk Room).  I understand a lot of people who post on this forum may have attended the recent Soul Scotland Special I organised at the Arches in April.  I hoped it might bring everyone together for a great party and help dissolve any back-stabbing and jealousy.  I thought the event was a success and we had gone some way to stop the rot.

I am hurt that someone has accused me of only being in to promoting because of the money.  Everyone who has promoted their own night will understand how the costs build up and how difficult it can actually be to break even let alone make money.  Printing of flyers, posters, venue hire, PA hire, websites, staff on the night and media distribution all either cost a lot of money or take a lot of time.  Then if you want to bring a DJ up from London there are inevitable fees, flights, hotels and per diems for the artist.  This is why we need to charge such a high ticket price.  I hope everyone can understand this.

Please let me reassure you, over the years I have lost a lot more cash than I have made. I promote gigs and clubs because I am addicted to seeing a dancefloor full of smiling faces, not to line my pockets.

This night came about because my ex-girlfriend interviewed Ian Levine around 18 months ago.  He told her he loved DJing but didn't get offered many gigs because of the hatred surrounding him.  It took quite a lot of convincing him, but he came round because we told him that the majority of people out there still love him and what he has achieved.  I make no excuses if people feel he has done them wrong, but we must respect him as a human being.  If it wasn't for Ian, there is little doubt that we still would not know about a lot of soul records... and we would still be unearthing them today.

All those who want to celebrate an intimate, friendly atmosphere and hear what the most forward thinking, dedicated soul DJ the UK has ever produced is welcome.  I know a lot of you have fairly valid reasons for not liking what has happened, but please don't try and ruin the fun for those who respect him.  Leave any bad attitudes and home and join together for one very special party with a collection of some of Scotland's finest soul selectors.  You would be a fool to miss it.

link

It's not Levine we were on about it was certain other people who were involved in a disgraceful brawl over a bloody broken stylus of all things, I could'nt care less about Levine, he's been there done and has got the T shirt, and then he goes and disgraces himself with a con trick about a crap record claiming it to be a big money rarity, denying it till he was blue in the face then owning up to it, whatever his stance on the scene the man is his own worst enemy, and he wonders how people hate him so much.

[Guest remus]

Jim Gilstrap

Blendells

Adam Wade

He was good at the 100 club-I was there. Packed floor but too fast and stompy maybe. The Rocket Modern room he played mainly Mecca type stuff which some loved and ohers didn't get. But some forget  Ian virtually invented Modern Soul anyway.

link

I didn't like his spot at the 100club, that's just MY opinion but I respect yours.

His mecca spot didn't go down too well because most of the punters in the modern room follow the current modern dj's and their current plays and like me found it a tad boreing.

As for Ian inventing modern soul, that's total bollox!, the artists, musicians, songwriters, producers etc "evolved" it as a natural progression.

[Billywhizz]

Jim Gilstrap

Blendells

Adam Wade

He was good at the 100 club-I was there. Packed floor but too fast and stompy maybe. The Rocket Modern room he played mainly Mecca type stuff which some loved and ohers didn't get. But some forget  Ian virtually invented Modern Soul anyway.

link

Simon don''t forget the marr's Bar.

BIllY

[Billywhizz]

Stuart, I know he's not your favourite person but Ian had more records - very good ones - than probably anyone this list ! His record room was phenomenal. Pull a section out at random (and get your head bitten off for touching them  ) and you would be holding in your hand a selection of must haves by anyones standards.

Say what you will, but to say he didn't still have decent records simply isn't true.

link

I agree Alison he must have load's and load's of good record's i'm no collecter and i've got 30,000 and I sold 3 last week,so that's make's it's less than 30,000 i'm looking 2 do a full allnighter DJing as well as a few spin's in between fee £600 including vat.

Billy

[Guest alison]

Can you list some of the new sounds he was trying to break?

link

Benny Harper - My Prayer springs to mind.

[Guest alison]

Disagree. 

He may have had a reasonable but sizeable collection but he hardly had the sounds to compete with the top DJs, which is what he wanted to do.  In fact looking at his early come back playllists it is questionable whether he should have been behind the decks at all apart from on his past reputation, allegations that he was playing bootlegs as well tend to indicate that he lacked good quality originals. 

He was buying piles of old crap being offloaded by every dealer under the sun at one stage, eventually he started building a reasonable set of discs, nothing that special by the looks of it, can't say from that many would be that jealous.  No wonder he had to make his two biggest sounds himself (4Vs and Venetia Wotsit).

Vaguely remember some Contours (?) track he had as well where the dubbed over piano intro sounds so like it could be Ian Levine playing... PMSL ridiculous man.

link

Ah, the Contours with the "click" all the way through Tailor made you think ? Well I never.

No point playing forum volleyball over this Stuart; not disputing what he favoured or played or bought or tailor made or whatever - all I say is that at the same he still had an incredible collection. If he chose not to play them in order to push whatever was his bag at the time...then thats down to him. Ian has attitude, he's a stubborn kinda fella and he was doing it his way....

[Steve G]

Ah, the Contours with the "click" all the way through  Tailor made you think ? Well I never.

No point playing forum volleyball over this Stuart; not disputing what he favoured or played or bought or tailor made or whatever - all I say is that at the same he still had an incredible collection.  If he chose not to play them in order to push whatever was his bag at the time...then thats down to him. Ian has attitude, he's a stubborn kinda fella and he was doing it his way....  

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Alison I may have to disagree with you on this one - Ian has over 100,000 records - three rooms full, and at first glance it looks impressive. How many good ones? I'd say not too many at this point.

Benny Harper was one - which several DJs got, and Jim Gilstap is obviously a great track - but both of these have gone to homes. A number of punters have been down to Ealing and picked out the best tunes. But on the negative side with Ian equally we got a load of remakes - Vandals, Valaquons, 7 Wonders of the World type things that were truly poor. Not to mention the truly dreadful 60's like Adam Wade! This is just SO bad. ALmost as bad as "Midnight mail" which is pure crapola. And some of the 70s - Diane Steinberg, Elliot Goldberk on TSOP? - jeepers how deep is the barrel? I wondered why this was on the only 45 on TSOP I hadn't got - having got one, I now realise I was missin....absolutely nothing.

Ian is not here to defend himself, and I know he is passionate about the music, but in terms of quality I suspect it just ain't really there no more. Sorry gal!

[Guest Dan]

I love music but don't tend to indulge in idle chatter.

ah! you've come to the wrong place eric, we're more the idle chatter on here!

[Guest Dan]

This night came about because my ex-girlfriend interviewed Ian Levine around 18 months ago.  He told her he loved DJing but didn't get offered many gigs because of the hatred surrounding him.  It took quite a lot of convincing him, but he came round because we told him that the majority of people out there still love him and what he has achieved.

no offence eric but i find it amusing to say the least that ian levine 'took quite a lot of convincing' to dj and the line that he was concerned about people hating him is almost as flabbergasting as the suggestion that the majority of people 'out there' still love him!

he would dj at my granny's and i don't imagine the thought that a few misguided souls got the wrong end of the stick over a few escapades would trouble him too much. but i can imagine he quite liked being courted

however, agree with much else of what you say and hope you have a successful night all the same

[Dave Moore]

This night came about because my ex-girlfriend interviewed Ian Levine around 18 months ago. He told her he loved DJing but didn't get offered many gigs because of the hatred surrounding him. It took quite a lot of convincing him, but he came round because we told him that the majority of people out there still love him and what he has achieved. I make no excuses if people feel he has done them wrong, but we must respect him as a human being. If it wasn't for Ian, there is little doubt that we still would not know about a lot of soul records... and we would still be unearthing them today.

Best of luck with this gig Eric. As someone who felt exactly the same a few years ago, but was then treated like a complete numpty by someone who ruined what could have been a "scene changing" event I think your "daft as a brush" Mate! Keep him on a leash and you just might stand a chance. Let him loose and you'll get the same treatment we did. Good luck Mate, Hope it's success for your sake.

Regards,

Dave

www.hitsvillesoulclub.com

[Guest alison]

Alison I may have to disagree with you on this one - Ian has over 100,000 records - three rooms full, and at first glance it looks impressive. How many good ones? I'd say not too many at this point.

Benny Harper was one  - which several DJs got, and Jim Gilstap is obviously a great track   - but both of these have gone to homes. A number of punters have been down to Ealing and picked out the best tunes.  But on the negative side with Ian equally we got a load of remakes  - Vandals, Valaquons, 7 Wonders of the World type things that were truly poor. Not to mention the truly dreadful 60's like Adam Wade! This is just SO bad. ALmost as bad as "Midnight mail" which is pure crapola. And some of the 70s - Diane Steinberg, Elliot Goldberk on TSOP? - jeepers how deep is the barrel? I wondered why this was on the only 45 on TSOP I hadn't got - having got one, I now realise I was missin....absolutely nothing. 

Ian is not here to defend himself, and I know he is passionate about the music, but in terms of quality I suspect it just ain't really there no more. Sorry gal!

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That's my point Stevie Baby, he chose to push some controversial (and rather odd material at times), but his personal collection (from what I saw) was still extremely impressive.

Must agree, Adam Wade was particularly gruesome

[Guest alison]

Oh yes Steve, and the Diane Pukeberg was a rather horrible moment !!!

Still say he had some fabby and relevant tackle left at that point.

[Guest]

Funny innit - I like both Diane Steinberg- which is as good as any of the other Philly records that have hit big (certainly better that The Futures) and Adam Wade which is a bit showbizzy but better in my opinion than some of the rare garbage thats about.

And just to clear The Contours thing up - Its was a Motown audio demo or something- you can here the beep all the way through. However the start was damaged so - and we're talking seconds here- a piano was dubbed on. Not tailor made at all -you can look elsewhere for those....but how easily what people WANT to believe becomes true.....

[Guest alison]

Funny innit - I like both Diane Steinberg- which is as good as any of the other Philly records that have hit big (certainly better that The Futures) and Adam Wade which is a bit showbizzy but better in my opinion than some of the rare garbage thats about.

And just to clear The Contours thing up - Its was a Motown audio demo or something- you can here the beep all the way through. However the start was damaged so - and we're talking seconds here- a piano was dubbed on. Not tailor made at all -you can look elsewhere for those....but how easily what people WANT to believe becomes true.....

link

Point A, better than the Futures (that doesn't say a lot) but not to my taste. In fact I can't stand it.

Point B, Adam Wade - sorry can't get it, never could. IMHO its quite a dreadful record and has no place on the soul scene.

Point C, my tongue was in cheek - hence tailor made;surely not - without a smiley.........geddit

PS. Glad you rose above the snide remarks and stayed on here Simon - for a minute I thought you really were walking the plank

[Guest dodger]

LOL he really fucked up at the Cala Gran- some great records tough including the awesome Bobby Sheen "If I Ever Dreamed I Hurt You" which sounded so fantastic I couldn't beleive it.

link

Probably the funniest thing I've ever seen at a northern soul event, shouting down the mic at Ali on the dancefloor more or less on her own . . . 'Princess, princess, turn around and look at me when I'm talking to you'.

[jazzyjas]

just curious...what adam wade record are you all talking about? is it "rain from the skies"? If so, I must agree that it's not for the soul scene at all. nice bacharach song-but it's popcorn..not northern AT ALL. adam wade's catalog in general is like low-rent lenny welch as far as i'm concerned.

never heard the joey scarbury or the dianne steinberg either. i'll get around to it eventually. got SOUL records to listen to you know?

KTF

Jas

ps. hey ali.. for just a split second, i thought i found a natural impulse 45 the other day. alas it was some other record with a similar looking label. i would have crapped myself it really was natural impulse. thanks for pointing that track out. i really like it.

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

7 Wonders of the World type things that were truly poor.

Ian is not here to defend himself, and I know he is passionate about the music, but in terms of quality I suspect it just ain't really there no more. Sorry gal!

link

Funny that you should mention that Steve i always wondered about that one at the time i first heard it - when Ian guested on Richards show. Having said that i quite liked it on first hearing but not having heard it since couldn't really comment.

I would say though that Ali was talking about Ians collection then not now that he has sold large parts of it to the gathering vultures.

[Guest]

PS. Glad you rose above the snide remarks and stayed on here Simon - for a minute I thought you really were walking the plank 

link

God, I'll be defending Diana Ross next.

LOl Ali -I got your Contours post-but by the look of it anything said here passes into leg- end very quicky and before you know it suddenly oops! there's another tailor made to add to the list ! Steinberg, Wade and Scarbury? - to each is own.

But I hadn't noticed any snide remarks at all. ....may the Universe forgive me

And all on a public forum too......

Soul content: Shalamar "Take That To The Plank"

(oh hang on-thats a pop record. A very successful pop record. So thats no good then. Hope they're not................. )

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Probably the funniest thing I've ever seen at a northern soul event, shouting down the mic at Ali on the dancefloor more or less on her own . . . 'Princess, princess, turn around and look at me when I'm talking to you'.   

link

It wasn't Princess it was Empress dontcha just hate misquotes

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

Funny innit - I like both Diane Steinberg- which is as good as any of the other Philly records that have hit big (certainly better that The Futures) and Adam Wade which is a bit showbizzy but better in my opinion than some of the rare garbage thats about.

link

That's because you have no taste whatsoever Whitey Sorry Simon I also think that these were dreadful in the extreme

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

just curious...what adam wade record are you all talking about? is it "rain from the skies"? If so, I must agree that it's not for the soul scene at all. nice bacharach song-but it's popcorn..not northern AT ALL. adam wade's catalog in general is like low-rent lenny welch as far as i'm concerned.

never heard the joey scarbury or the dianne steinberg either. i'll get around to it eventually. got SOUL records to listen to you know?

KTF

Jas

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The Adam Wade was That Old Devil Moon and quite dire i would suggest that unless you like Babs Streisland you forget the DS track and Joey S is a white pop stomper to be avoided at all costs

Having said all that i really quite liked Jim Jockstrap, Blendels, Sweet Three, Sandy and the Pebbles, The Enchanters, Linda Perry, Benny Harper, Descisons, Bob Collins and the FF, 21st Century, Linda Lloyd and a good few others he was playing last time round

[Guest]

That's because you have no taste whatsoever Whitey Sorry Simon I also think that these were dreadful in the extreme   

link

John, you thinking I have no taste is a compliment mate.

What I do have though is a mind free of the need to jump on the bandwagon....

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

John, you thinking I have no taste is a compliment mate. 

What I do have though is a mind free of the need to jump on the bandwagon....

link

Thankyou

Just to redress the balance a tad i have just posted up 8 Levine tunes from 2002 here >>Levine 2002<<

Tracks are as follows

Blendels

Sweet 3

Curtis Davis

Contours

Sandy & The Pebbles

Enchanters

Czars

Jim Gilstrap

I nearly put Adam Wade up Simon but it was tooooo embarassing

[Guest]

I was thinking of "Half The World" for Adam Wade. Dunno what you were going to post up but I suspect it was the one on the "Rocket" CD which is "Old Devil Moon".

I disliked "Old Devil Moon" when I first heard it at Levine Towers and told Levinski then. It's an old standard anyway and he sounds exactly like Neil Diamond which is a voice I have a real problem with.

[Guest Johnny One Trout]

I was thinking of "Half The World" for Adam Wade.  Dunno what you were going to post up but I suspect it was the one on the "Rocket" CD which is "Old Devil Moon".

I disliked "Old Devil Moon" when I first heard it at Levine Towers and told Levinski then. It's an old standard anyway and he sounds exactly like Neil Diamond which is a voice I have a real problem with.

link

Can't say as i remember "half the world" Simon and yes i was thinking of "Old Devil Moon" absolutely dire record would be interested in hearing the 7 Wonders of the World again if you have a soundfile simon all i remember is that it was a fabulous pastiche of a temptations record in the words of Bubbalah

[Guest]

Can't say as i remember "half the world" Simon and yes i was thinking of "Old Devil Moon" absolutely dire record would be interested in hearing the 7 Wonders of the World again if you have a soundfile simon all i remember is that it was a fabulous pastiche of a temptations record in the words of Bubbalah   

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I don't have "7 Blunders Of The World (according to Ian Levine)" but I think it's on CD. Levinski airing it on Richards show was a big mistake I thought because it inadvertantly exposed The Four Vandals which people really liked at the time (apart from those who say they "knew" of course...) I was sitting in a car listening outside The Lowry Place and I hated the record..however things like The Satintones "Half a Man" and Vivienne Courtland 'Right To Survive' (who is currently on TV) and Herman Griffin are great.

But hey lets dwell on the negative! It's great British trait !

Glad to see you've disovered your Jewish roots BTW.

[Steve G]

Funny that you should mention that Steve i always wondered about that one at the time i first heard it - when Ian guested on Richards show. Having said that i quite liked it on first hearing but not having heard it since couldn't really comment.

I would say though that Ali was talking about Ians collection then not now that he has sold large parts of it to the gathering vultures.

link

As one of the "Vultures" I can indeed confirm this to be true. Things like Jim Gilstrap flew out of Ealing. I believe even the Motown collection has gone now

Of the tunes you cited though they weren't all his, Benny Harper was an old John A thing that a number of us got - Ditto Sandy & Pebbles on Sussex - but hey I'm not here to slag someone off who isn't here to defend himself so at this point, so I'll carry on gnawing at this carcus of an animal I found dead by the side of the road this morning.

[Guest cC B]

Thankyou 

Just to redress the balance a tad i have just posted up 8 Levine tunes from 2002 here >>Levine 2002<<

Tracks are as follows

Blendels

Sweet 3

Curtis Davis

Contours 

Sandy & The Pebbles

Enchanters

Czars

Jim Gilstrap

I nearly put Adam Wade up Simon but it was tooooo embarassing 

link

Wasn't that Blendels of his really a bootleg? I assume you mean "You need love" on Dontee, right? Or so I've heard anyway.

CB

[Guest Stuart T]

Wasn't that Blendels of his really a bootleg? I assume you mean "You need love" on Dontee, right? Or so I've heard anyway.

CB

link

There was a run of them available at the time (other side is much better) and there was a bit of a debate about their originality. Not sure where that came out but it went from being big money to ever so cheap.

[Guest Stuart T]

Come off it, he had some great records, I sold him loads out of my own collection and loads of other people sold him top sounds.  He just chose not to play them in favour of trying to break some new sounds which he thought would be perfect for todays scene.  Yes he was wrong in the main but fair play to him for having a go.

And the Venicia Wilson record is brilliant.

link

Pete, I know you sold him lots of good stuff (bah, probably half my problem, I wanted 'em), but I was referring to when he first came back, and secondly, even with what he bought I don't think he had an uber collection like he made out, did he? Someone we both know went through his collection before the great return, before they fell out, and didn't think much of it, loads of records but little of any great interest was his view. Okay, its hearsay and he did then buy a load of stuff which I understand was flogged, and the Venicia Wilson isn't bad at all, but there are plenty of better DJs around. Not me though, I know I'm shite.

[Guest cC B]

There was a run of them available at the time (other side is much better) and there was a bit of a debate about their originality.  Not sure where that came out but it went from being big money to ever so cheap.

link

When THE FOUR VANDALS started selling on ebay @ a tenner each, there were also bootlegs of the Blendells offered from the same seller.

CB

Edited May 27, 2005 by cC B

[Guest Stuart T]

And just to clear The Contours thing up - Its was a Motown audio demo or something- you can here the beep all the way through. However the start was damaged so - and we're talking seconds here- a piano was dubbed on. Not tailor made at all -you can look elsewhere for those....but how easily what people WANT to believe becomes true.....

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That was the one, didn't say it was a tailor made, that was Alison being naughty. He did try to convince someone that he had found a complete clean cut as I recall, but it was so obviously a certain I Levine at the Joanna. I reckon the Adam Wade is a tailor made, probably at Burtons.

[Guest Stuart T]

When THE FOUR VANDALS started selling on ebay @ a tenner each, there were also bootlegs of the Blendells offered from the same seller.

CB

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Thats right isn't it? It had been called a boot before then, I think Frynn checked one and thought it was iffy. Someone else insisted they were pukka, wasn't sure where that came out but given the load that turned up so cheap at least those must have been boots. But was Ian's? I thought that sold for a good price when he sold up?