Northern Soul Snob's

[Guest]

I, myself, would probably be considered a soul snob by some and an idiot by many others

I listen to mp3's on my iPod, but wherever possible like to listen to and play OVO. And the vast majority of stuff I play on my iPod is recorded from my own original vinyl.

I do not particularly differentiate between so-called oldies and so-called rarities per se. Some oldies are great rarities and some rare records are big oldies. There are many great records, once biggies, now all but forgotten and I would think never played out anymore. I am not a great fan of "played out" oldies but think that if you pay your money then you deserve to hear it on original vinyl unless the night is clearly advertised as not being such.

As for the point made earlier about people paying OTT prices for "played out" records, I don't see why that's a problem? I've done it myself. It's just an extension of the soul snobbery isn't it? For me personally I want to own every single record that I like on Original Vinyl - oldies, newies, rarities, 60's, 70's, 80's whatever. Give me 'em all!

Phil

Whether people will admit to it or not , we all have an element of soul snobbishness within us ........

To paraphrase Harry Enfield , there has always been - and will always be - the " I is considerably richer than yow " factor associated with the NS scene and fraternity . It is no big thing and it is not a matter or life or death - it is just a fact , and way of life ..........

I , like Phil , have my own idiosyncrasies that could be deemed as being " snobbish " , whilst on the other hand , they could be deemed , and looked on , as being just " nobbish " .........

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[Russ Vickers]

I can't belive my eyes

One persons comment on here (from a so called 'respected' member) is in complete contradiction to what they have said in private - OVO to the max on open forum - but have said to me that they "do not give a shit about boots/reissues/carvers or what ever" being played Apparently, it is the ones who pretend to be something they are not that frustrates them

I actually think its not just a black & white issue, but to be honest this has been done to death forever & I'm at pains not to get embroiled in it again. There is sometimes a lot of Willy Waving instead of just gettig on with it..........I dont want to go down the 'are we allowed to play LP's, are we allowed to play carvers of unissued tracks & all of that bumf.............we all know what the correct etiquette is & I bet that most have played an odd reissue or boot over the years..........but there is a difference in that & deliberately misleading people. At present I have an LP track which is awesome, no one else is playing it out, but I only have the reissue LP which in itself is actually quite rare........do i hide this great tune under a bushell, as the original LP might take years to appear.........no bollocks to it, I would not be stepping on anyones toes by doing this, no one else is playing said track & it really deserves to be heard by a wider audience, am I a hypocrite, well maybe you could argue yes, but I personally do not see anything particularly wrong with this, however knocking out carvers with lookalike labels & playing them out as OV isnt right IMHO.

This subject could go on for months & has done, you can never truly get your opinion over exactly on an open forum, but generally I agree with the OVO policy. I also try to be diplomatic, when discussing these some times emotive subjects when out socialising .

I dont think anyone would take issue with your observation Mike about OVO, but 'so called respected member' .....could be taken the wrong way by some people, respect has to be earned, others give respect, you cant demand it for your self. If you have no respect for said person then thats your personal opinion, but I dont think anyone is demanding respect or would be aware of the respect issue personally.

Russ

Edited March 15, 2009 by Russ Vickers

[Guest]

I actually think its not just a black & white issue, but to be honest this has been done to death forever & I'm at pains not to get embroiled in it again. There is sometimes a lot of Willy Waving instead of just gettig on with it..........I dont want to go down the 'are we allowed to play LP's, are we allowed to play carvers of unissued tracks & all of that bumf.............we all know what the correct etiquette is & I bet that most have played an odd reissue or boot over the years..........but there is a difference in that & deliberately misleading people. At present I have an LP track which is awesome, no one else is playing it out, but I only have the reissue LP which in itself is actually quite rare........do i hide this great tune under a bushell, as the original LP might take years to appear.........no bollocks to it, I would not be stepping on anyones toes by doing this, no one else is playing said track & it really deserves to be heard by a wider audience, am I a hypocrite, well maybe you could argue yes, but I personally do not see anything particularly wrong with this, however knocking out carvers with lookalike labels & playing them out as OV isnt right IMHO. [agree 100%]

This subject could go on for months & has done, you can never truly get your opinion over exactly on an open forum, but generally I agree with the OVO policy. I also try to be diplomatic, when discussing these some times emotive subjects when out socialising .

I dont think anyone would take issue with your observation Mike about OVO, but 'so called respected member' .....could be taken the wrong way by some people, respect has to be earned, others give respect, you cant demand it for your self. If you have no respect for said person then thats your personal opinion, but I dont think anyone is demanding respect or would be aware of the respect issue personally.

Russ

The phrase 'so called respected member' was not meant as a put down. I myself have respect for that person who has far more knowledge of the music than me - I can, and do, learn a lot from his posts. In the context of my post it referred to the attitudes of that come across from some on these forums at times.

For example; I agree that it is wrong for someone with a mitt full of bootlegs, to come on SS & else where & slag OVO DJ's off - however I see far more (and worse) slagging off from DJ's with a mitt full of OVO's and this tends to be acceptable and encouraged - if we shout OVO it seems to gain respect by some on the soul scene. Take away the debate between OVO and boots/reissues/carvers and just look at the superior and condescending attitudes of the OVO brigade as mentioned in modernsoulsucks post #35. It has got to a ridiculous state of affairs when I hear people say things like - 'it is not acceptable to play Big Maybelle's - I can't wait any longer on Rojac 118 because it first came out on Rojac 115' - get a life for God's sake!!

I used to be out and about at soul events constantly and loved everything about it until personal circumstances kept me away for some time. On my return, I have found a completely different scene with a hierarchy that I do find superior and condescending which has put me right off attending events

Edited March 15, 2009 by mikecook

[Guest]

OVO

......but

you are allowed to play carvers if you have the original

.....or

if you cant find the original LP

how cool is this....I'm starting to get information to the 'rule book' I asked for a while ago on here. The above contradictions are blowing out of the water the theory of, 'if you have to ask, you don't get it'

[Russ Vickers]

OVO

......but

you are allowed to play carvers if you have the original

.....or

if you cant find the original LP

how cool is this....I'm starting to get information to the 'rule book' I asked for a while ago on here. The above contradictions are blowing out of the water the theory of, 'if you have to ask, you don't get it'

Oh dear...........just what I was trying to avoid.........

Russ

[Dave Abbott]

OVO

......but

you are allowed to play carvers if you have the original

not in my rulebook...

...unless the original is like a one-off acetate and it is in the best interest of the acetate and sound quality to carve it...(but then it wouldn't be OVO it would be against the OAO rules...LOL)

[Russ Vickers]

not in my rulebook...

...unless the original is like a one-off acetate and it is in the best interest of the acetate and sound quality to carve it...(but then it wouldn't be OVO it would be against the OAO rules...LOL)

The voice of reason..............sorry I mean confusion ............

Russ

[Guest]

OVO

if you cant find the original LP

what does your rule book say about the other half of my post Dave

Edited March 15, 2009 by mikecook

[Russ Vickers]

what does your rule book say about the other half of my post Dave

More to the point what does your rule book say about OVO ........also if I hadnt mentioned it nobody would have been non the wiser in THIS particular case. I think your being a little mischevious here Mike........bit bored on a Sunday are we Anyway, your thoughts on the subject would be interesting & appreciated.

Russ

Edited March 15, 2009 by Russ Vickers

[Guest mel brat]

Thank fcuk............the voice of reason...........I sometimes question my sanity, am I on the same scene or even the same planet as some of these people. I am a soul snob, a fully paid up card carrying member of the soul police & a multitude of other derogetary labels certain elements of this so called scene have pinned on me, because I beleive in the original ethos of the Rare Soul scene & refuse to be brow beaten into becoming part of a slightly embarrassing, 'Dad dancing at the disco' nostalgia trip, were any Tom, Dick or Norman can call themselves a DJ with a mitt full of bootlegs, then they come on SS & else where & slag OVO DJ's off...........the time is nigh, not long left, before Northern Soul is dead...........then long live Northern Soul.......the real scene will live forever in the hearts & dance floors of the true beleivers.......

Its a fair cop, I'm a soul snob (apparently) & I see it as a badge of honour........

Russ

...and maybe if enough so-called Soul folk had stood up against bootlegs (oops!, I mean "second issues") when it really MATTERED, there wouldn't be such a debate about the less committed playing them now?

[Guest]

More to the point what does your rule book say about OVO ........also if I hadnt mentioned it nobody would have been non the wiser in THIS particular case. I think your being a little mischevious here Mike........bit bored on a Sunday are we Anyway, your thoughts on the subject would be interesting & appreciated.

Russ

yes Russ, a bit bored on a Sunday and feeling mischevious while waiting for some decent 60's gritty dancers to appear in the sales section. My thoughts on the subject are: As far as what people play out at events then the truth is i really dont care. In all the events that I attended over the years It never once entered my mind to consider if the DJ was playing orig or not. I always went to dance and enjoy the music.

As far as myself personally: I like to collect records (albeit a very small fish in a big pond) - if I can get them on orig, brilliant! There is something about having the orig. - If i cant get them then other format will do. I buy records for playing at home purely for my own personal enjoyment. On the odd occasion I have been asked to play at events (again, a very small fish - I know my place ) I have used a mix of orig /reissues/boots and it was never an issue; until I got back into the scene a couple of years ago when I started hearing the new 'rules' (and i dont buy into that 'back in the day 1980-1990 crap, i was around then [and before] and if some played by those rules then it wasnt widely implemented or vioced so loud).

My thoughts now are i still dont care what others play. However, I helped put an event on in Plymouth not long ago and someone suggested we should stick to OVO, so we did - even though the 'rules' were down to me. I also think it is the the decision of the organiser of the event to establish what is acceptable and not (as we often see on forums) a bunch of people who would probably never travel & attend the events they 'slag off' even if it was OVO

I hope that gives a little insight into my thoughts Russ - a bit scary for me to open up and share my thoughts as the last time i was asked to do that I ended up being sectioned

[Russ Vickers]

yes Russ, a bit bored on a Sunday and feeling mischevious while waiting for some decent 60's gritty dancers to appear in the sales section. My thoughts on the subject are: As far as what people play out at events then the truth is i really dont care. In all the events that I attended over the years It never once entered my mind to consider if the DJ was playing orig or not. I always went to dance and enjoy the music.

As far as myself personally: I like to collect records (albeit a very small fish in a big pond) - if I can get them on orig, brilliant! There is something about having the orig. - If i cant get them then other format will do. I buy records for playing at home purely for my own personal enjoyment. On the odd occasion I have been asked to play at events (again, a very small fish - I know my place ) I have used a mix of orig /reissues/boots and it was never an issue; until I got back into the scene a couple of years ago when I started hearing the new 'rules' (and i dont buy into that 'back in the day 1980-1990 crap, i was around then [and before] and if some played by those rules then it wasnt widely implemented or vioced so loud).

My thoughts now are i still dont care what others play. However, I helped put an event on in Plymouth not long ago and someone suggested we should stick to OVO, so we did - even though the 'rules' were down to me. I also think it is the the decision of the organiser of the event to establish what is acceptable and not (as we often see on forums) a bunch of people who would probably never travel & attend the events they 'slag off' even if it was OVO

I hope that gives a little insight into my thoughts Russ - a bit scary for me to open up and share my thoughts as the last time i was asked to do that I ended up being sectioned

I genuinely appreciate your opinion on this Mike, & find it an interesting subject generally, Im glad we have discussed it in a reasonable manner too. I think there has always been issues over this, but like everything else the internet has compounded the arguments. I do have a broader opinion on this too which we can discuss at greater length over a beer, the reason I say this, is because I cant explain properly in the written form exactly what I'm trying to say without it being misenterpreted.

Russ

[Guest soulmaguk]

Northern Soul Snobs...ha, i plop on them! i was asked to DJ in Scarboro' a couple of months ago by Jinx at a local pub, and i asked him if i could plug a i-pod player into his system. He said he didn't know how to do it...ok, so i said i will bring a few CDs to play...he said i wont have any CDs played at my do's...so why is it, he can play goldsoul pressings and other piss poor quality issues all night, and i cant play what's happenning on the scene tunes??...is he a snob or am i??

[Dave Abbott]

what does your rule book say about the other half of my post Dave

to save me and others looking back, i will post your other half here, Mike...

OVO

.....or

if you cant find the original LP

...Mike, you are naughty LOL...

i did not reply to your second half, because, to be totally honest, my rule-book does not cover LP's...! Now, at the sake of a visit from one of me best mates, who lives 2 minutes 53 seconds walk away, i would say if my rule-book covered LP's it would not cover re-issue LP's as being ok...

as for the rest of the LP deabte - it is one that i really do not understand and one that i do shy away from...i have only a handful of LP's with tracks that i could 'play out'...if my 'rulebook' did cover LP's it would be play it off the LP only - non of this 'it's another big box to carry' malarky!!

If it's on LP - play the LP.!

if you play a carver of the track...then why not play carvers of 45's too. One rule for one format does not cover the other.

...but (and i don't know how i let myself be dragged into this again!) i really don't give a fcuk and haven't done for some time - the venue/promoter will dictate the format of music being played; if you don't like it, don't go - there are two 'scenes' running side-by-side, each needing the other - i have written on this before and if i find it i will re-post it..

[Guest JJMMWGDuPree]

Me, I'm a listener not a presenter, and all that matters to me is the sound that comes out of the speakers. I can't see any harm in being an original vinyl collector, but anyone who tries to tell me that what I'm listening to isn't soul because it's not in the original format is something considerably sillier than a snob to my way of thinking.

WHY SHOULD YOU BE A SNOB IF YOU BELIEVE IN PLAYING ORIGIANL 45S?

...and that about sums it up...

[Guest]

Are you sure it wasnt Soul Slobs?

In which case you can count me in

[Paul Shirley]

THE WHOLE ISSUE OF PLAYING ORIGINAL STUFF NEVER CREPT INTO TE DEBATE BACK IN THE DAY IE1980-92 IT WAS JUST TAKIN FOR GRANTED .AGAIN HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS F--KING DEBATE GONNA BE DISCUSSED ON HERE WHY SHOULD YOU BE A SNOB IF YOU BELIEVE IN PLAYING ORIGIANL 45S?

BUY SHIT BOOTLEGS OFF EBAY PLAY THEM AND DIMINISH FURTHER THE SANCTITY OF A SCENE WHICH LIKE IT OR NOT IS ALL ABOUT ORIGINAL RECORDINGS.THE ACCEPTANCE OF SECOND BEST IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH IMO THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME A SNOB ITS A PERSONNEL RELATONSHIP WITH CERTAIN BELIEVES AND PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE DRIVEN THE RARE SOUL SCENE AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.

PERHAPS PEOPLE MAKING THESE JUDGEMENTS ARE FROM ANOTHER SCENE?

right on

[Guest Trevski]

Count me in! Edited March 16, 2009 by Trevski

[Jumpinjoan]

Me, I'm a listener not a presenter, and all that matters to me is the sound that comes out of the speakers. I can't see any harm in being an original vinyl collector, but anyone who tries to tell me that what I'm listening to isn't soul because it's not in the original format is something considerably sillier than a snob to my way of thinking.

If you are listening to records at home fair enough.

Anyone at a venue playing records to punters should be playing originals... or they shouldn't be up there.

[Guest BigPaul]

Im a Snob, go to venues and all-niters up and down the country

and dont speak to anyone

Fook nows how i lost me voice at Prestatyn this weekend

[Ezzie Brown]

THE WHOLE ISSUE OF PLAYING ORIGINAL STUFF NEVER CREPT INTO TE DEBATE BACK IN THE DAY IE1980-92 IT WAS JUST TAKIN FOR GRANTED .AGAIN HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS F--KING DEBATE GONNA BE DISCUSSED ON HERE WHY SHOULD YOU BE A SNOB IF YOU BELIEVE IN PLAYING ORIGIANL 45S?

BUY SHIT BOOTLEGS OFF EBAY PLAY THEM AND DIMINISH FURTHER THE SANCTITY OF A SCENE WHICH LIKE IT OR NOT IS ALL ABOUT ORIGINAL RECORDINGS.THE ACCEPTANCE OF SECOND BEST IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH IMO THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME A SNOB ITS A PERSONNEL RELATONSHIP WITH CERTAIN BELIEVES AND PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE DRIVEN THE RARE SOUL SCENE AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.

PERHAPS PEOPLE MAKING THESE JUDGEMENTS ARE FROM ANOTHER SCENE?

well said baz,ezzie

[Guest Dave Turner]

THE WHOLE ISSUE OF PLAYING ORIGINAL STUFF NEVER CREPT INTO TE DEBATE BACK IN THE DAY IE1980-92 IT WAS JUST TAKIN FOR GRANTED .AGAIN HOW MANY TIMES IS THIS F--KING DEBATE GONNA BE DISCUSSED ON HERE WHY SHOULD YOU BE A SNOB IF YOU BELIEVE IN PLAYING ORIGIANL 45S?

BUY SHIT BOOTLEGS OFF EBAY PLAY THEM AND DIMINISH FURTHER THE SANCTITY OF A SCENE WHICH LIKE IT OR NOT IS ALL ABOUT ORIGINAL RECORDINGS.THE ACCEPTANCE OF SECOND BEST IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH IMO THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME A SNOB ITS A PERSONNEL RELATONSHIP WITH CERTAIN BELIEVES AND PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE DRIVEN THE RARE SOUL SCENE AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.

PERHAPS PEOPLE MAKING THESE JUDGEMENTS ARE FROM ANOTHER SCENE?

Says it fer me

[Sharon Cooper]

Im a Snob, go to venues and all-niters up and down the country

and dont speak to anyone

Fook nows how i lost me voice at Prestatyn this weekend

Paul is a snob, it's true, and I know why he lost his voice, cause he never shuts up.

[KevH]

More to the point what does your rule book say about OVO ........also if I hadnt mentioned it nobody would have been non the wiser in THIS particular case. I think your being a little mischevious here Mike........bit bored on a Sunday are we Anyway, your thoughts on the subject would be interesting & appreciated.

Russ

c'mon guys,you know the first rule about "The Rule Book" is..you don't talk about the Rule Book.

[Guest Andy Kempster]

surely its quite simple

if you dont care whether you are playing originals or not, then get back round the other side of the decks and listen to people that do care....i'll get me coat!

[KevH]

Deleted , was a bit pissed last night , sorry.

don't be sorry Tony.. .On Friday i was very pissed ,listened to OVO (most of the night),got a thrill out of seeing some Rare tunes,talked OVO with lots of knowledgeable folk,tried to play the bongos in the Modern Room(sorry).......had a reet top time,mixing with like minded soul snobs.

Was about to chuck it all in this morning,(I know Terry,,never make a desicion Monday ),but how can you leave a scene,with SO much to discuss .

[Guest Aberdeen Soul]

Edited by site as per forum rules

[Guest BigPaul]

don't be sorry Tony.. .On Friday i was very pissed ,listened to OVO (most of the night),got a thrill out of seeing some Rare tunes,talked OVO with lots of knowledgeable folk,tried to play the bongos in the Modern Room(sorry).......had a reet top time,mixing with like minded soul snobs.

Was about to chuck it all in this morning,(I know Terry,,never make a desicion Monday ),but how can you leave a scene,with SO much to discuss .

Was about to chuck it all in this morning,

What a load of Snobbery (Bollox) that was

Edited March 16, 2009 by BigPaul

[Ernie Andrews]

OVO back in the day and even earlier than 1980 was just a by-product of playing something new. It was nothing to do with OVO in itself. In fact at one time once a 45 had had it's day that was it. Rare OVO or not.

My contention is that it should be no different today. If it's one of these so-called upfront clubs the 45 will be on OVO anyway. If it's an oldies do then what does it matter what format the music is on as long as it entertains the crowd. And what would be the point of differentiating between OVO and any format oldies nights, other than on the basis of your own personal preferences/prejudices.

AS for soul snobs if us OVO collectors keep having a pop at those places where the rules are lax then it's no wonder others see us as superior or condescending because for a lot of people it doesn't matter.

Playing OVO doesn't drive the scene forward, for instance Johnny Howard, Lee Fields. Playing new discoveries does.

ROD

Sorry Rod what you are saying is Utter Bollocks IMO-

Ive got amate in the Us who has this new thing - I get abootleg done/ carver cos I cant be arsed looking for it. Is that acceptable - NO! and never should be.

Even if its oldies it should be original cos thats what they were when they were new things that was driving it forward.

Im a total snob where this is concerend ! No Im just someone who believes on the originality of how this scene came about and continue to keep that way - so to speak.

Edited March 16, 2009 by Ernie Andrews

[Dean]

May not have read all previous thoroughly enough, but have we decided what a NS snob is?

Oxford mini-dictionary. snob: n. person with an exaggerated respect for social positions or wealth or certain tastes and despises those considered inferior.

I agree with both posts by Joan (not out of any respect for social position). Don't care what people play in car/at home/ipod, playing to yourself play anything. Always tricky playing 45s in the car. Playing out is declaring you have something to offer which is a different kettle of fish (to quote a missed venue that stood by its OVO polcy). Look to your own morals, would you declare "This is a boot" or "This is a legit re-issue" over the mic? But the whole snob thing is more than OVO vs the rest of the world debate.

Hard to argue that spending £'00s and in some cases £'000s on records while a third of the world starve, and having respect for those that do, isn't some form of human exaggeration. But I'm still happy to do it (only £'00s in my case, not out of morality though).

I think a lot of us got into this to be snobs when we couldn't aspire to be snobbish in any other context. Despise would be too harsh, but I certainly looked down my nose (and a sizable one it is too) at those who were satisfied with the local miners welfare or some 70s disco, only dancing at the last dance as an excuse to feel-up some other poor drunken unfortunate. I thought their music inferior, their friends inferior, and assumed the ego of a social superior as part of an elite club that travelled the country most weekends (2 buses and 2 trains to Wigan, 4 buses to St Ives and none back on Sunday). As a kid I wore the badges to set myself apart from other people who didn't belong to this elite exciting club. A huge snob back in the day.

Looking around Prestatyn at the weekend we needed to ask ourselves a few times, is this a scene we'd boast about belonging to? I've mellowed a little. I don't get the uniform thing, particularly the retro uniform, but as long as you don't make me wear it, I don't care.

I do have an exaggerated respect for those with taste (that'll be the same tastes as mine) in music, with respect for original vinyl and the sheer beauty of labels. I really admire those who dance well (something I never managed to achieve) but not for dancing competitions (perhaps becuase I'm not good enough or perhaps simply because they're stupid)

I think the current "snob" conversation may be around all sorts of internal scene snobbery, rarity, fashion, history/credentials. I'm definitely a vinyl snob, partially a fashion snob, hope I'm not a history/credentials snob (some of the more likeable folk I've met over the last couple of years are people who are newer to the scene.

Don't intend to change.

[Tricky]

Joan for Leader,President or God.Always talks sense that woman.

Russ Vickers - I respect that man.

Big Paul - I know how you lost yer voice,me ears are still bleeding.

Cheers

Trev

[Guest bazrico]

Im a Snob, go to venues and all-niters up and down the country

and dont speak to anyone

Fook nows how i lost me voice at Prestatyn this weekend

It was the warm wheather

[Guest bazrico]

Are you sure it wasnt Soul Slobs?

In which case you can count me in

fook i was the only soul slob then you must be number two

[Guest soulboy]

Do you all think that owning £10000000,s worth of records mean that your a good dj ?.

[Guest julesp1905]

Always thought DJ's were the people with the good record collections.

Can't understand why people would even consider buying a Boot now, hell you can listen to any booted record you want at a click of a mouse.

I suppose I can understand the appeal of boots in the early days, I can remember the times when tapes were exchanged, yes they had the two second pause breaks to stop the acetates.

I sold my collection back in 1990, No regrets circumstances and all that. Have started buying again over the last 18 months. I have my own budget and know that some of the tunes sold will never be replaced. So what. What I enjoy is a good quality piece of music regardless of cost on OVO. The first rules of collecting anything is Buy what you like, At a price you agree, then you will never be dissapointed.

I rather listen to a set of £5 records someone has searched for than a taylormade set of boot Floorpackers brought for £6.99each Buy It Now of ebay with no imagination whatsoever.

[Jumpinjoan]

Do you all think that owning £10000000,s worth of records mean that your a good dj ?.

Are you for real?

I can't believe you know that little about the soul scene. I can't believe I am answering such a stupid question

[Guest bazrico]

Do you all think that owning £10000000,s worth of records mean that your a good dj ?.

What makes a good DJ is the person who will play for everyone OK he/she might empty the floor for one record but they should bring back the dancers if they have the records to do so after all that's why you pay them to entertain the paying punter as a promoter. so wheather the dj as £10 or £1000000000 worth records it's those who have come for a night out should be entertained

[Guest bazrico]

Are you for real?

I can't believe you know that little about the soul scene. I can't believe I am answering such a stupid question

well said Joan

[Guest soulboy]

Are you for real?

I can't believe you know that little about the soul scene. I can't believe I am answering such a stupid question

but your not answering it, your replying thats not an answer, so if some bloke down the street won zillions on the bingo and buys frank wilson for whatever to start dj'ing cos you can only play the original ,and people are going to want him to dj so they can hear that record that makes him a good dj then?

[Jumpinjoan]

but your not answering it, your replying thats not an answer, so if some bloke down the street won zillions on the bingo and buys frank wilson for whatever to start dj'ing cos you can only play the original ,and people are going to want him to dj so they can hear that record that makes him a good dj then?

Does it f***!

And once again I can't believe I am answering such a stupid question.

I have a question for you. How long have you been going to soul do's?

[Guest bazrico]

but your not answering it, your replying thats not an answer, so if some bloke down the street won zillions on the bingo and buys frank wilson for whatever to start dj'ing cos you can only play the original ,and people are going to want him to dj so they can hear that record that makes him a good dj then?

see my reply

[KevH]

but your not answering it, your replying thats not an answer, so if some bloke down the street won zillions on the bingo and buys frank wilson for whatever to start dj'ing cos you can only play the original ,and people are going to want him to dj so they can hear that record that makes him a good dj then?

if you need to ask...................... .Anyway no real soul snob would be seen dead at t'bingo.

[KevH]

Does it f***!

And once again I can't believe I am answering such a stupid question.

I have a question for you. How long have you been going to soul do's?

Joan,get some sleep .

[Jumpinjoan]

Joan,get some sleep .

Get some sleep? I overdose on sleep. Bed is my best friend these days.

[Guest bazrico]

if you need to ask...................... .Anyway no real soul snob would be seen dead at t'bingo.

not early doors in any way

[Guest Andy Kempster]

Does it f***!

And once again I can't believe I am answering such a stupid question.

I have a question for you. How long have you been going to soul do's?

dont bite joan, not worth it

[Wrongcrowd]

Does it f***!

And once again I can't believe I am answering such a stupid question.

I have a question for you. How long have you been going to soul do's?

Don't waste your time Joan, anyone that thinks listening to Frank Wilson is still a cool thing to do doesn't share our world, and I'm thankful for that

Soul snob..............and proud of it

[Guest soulboy]

Does it f***!

And once again I can't believe I am answering such a stupid question.

I have a question for you. How long have you been going to soul do's?

im 53 and i startedgoin when i was 16 is that long enough ?

[Guest soulboy]

Don't waste your time Joan, anyone that thinks listening to Frank Wilson is still a cool thing to do doesn't share our world, and I'm thankful for that

Soul snob..............and proud of it

im just using frank wilson as an example , i dont listen to frank wilson and i dont go to bingo,

[Jumpinjoan]

im 53 and i startedgoin when i was 16 is that long enough ?

How can anyone be going for that length of time and know absolutely nothing about the soul scene.

That is truly shocking!