Ted Massey Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Heard this for the first time in a long time this morning sounded absolutley fantastic especially the backing wonder if there are any more versions Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andrew bin Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Heard this for the first time in a long time this morning sounded absolutley fantastic especially the backing wonder if there are any more versions lovely track Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Aint it just could have been recorded in any of those great USA studios Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ZapatootheTiger Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 It's a great song - I have (separate) Reggae versions by Slim Smith (1971), Owen Gray (1968), Freddie McGregor (c. 1982) and Dread Flimstone & the Modern Tone Age Family (1991)... ...as well as the Georgie Fame and Billy Stewart workouts. I thought Wilfred 'Jackie' Edwards had recorded it as well - if he did, it's passed my collection by ... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andrew bin Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 It's a great song - I have (separate) Reggae versions by Slim Smith (1971), Owen Gray (1968), Freddie McGregor (c. 1982) and Dread Flimstone & the Modern Tone Age Family (1991)... ...as well as the Georgie Fame and Billy Stewart workouts. I thought Wilfred 'Jackie' Edwards had recorded it as well - if he did, it's passed my collection by ... any chance of a clip of slim smith or owen gray version Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Like to hear the Billy stewart version Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
De-to Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 (edited) any chance of a clip of slim smith or owen gray version heres slim smith, alton+h ellis version, Edited March 9, 2009 by de-to Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
De-to Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Like to hear the Billy stewart versionheres billy stewart, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
De-to Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 and a version by bobby thurston, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEdLgzq9dKs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andrew bin Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 heres slim smith, thanks found the billy stewart version on the same page "> Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 heres billy stewart, Cheers some how i prefer Georgie fame's both brilliant though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
De-to Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 version by bobby mcclure, Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andrew bin Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Cheers some how i prefer Georgie fame's both brilliant though utube is excellent Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Iancsloft Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Heard this for the first time in a long time this morning sounded absolutley fantastic especially the backing wonder if there are any more versions ================================================================================ ===== Hi Ted i grew up in the next Street to Clive Powell ( Georgie Fame ) our back gate was straight across from his, his mum and my Grandma where best friends never forget he knocked the Beatles off the Number 1 spot with his hit Yeh Yeh and he gave me a signed photo to Ian which ive still got somewhere Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
De-to Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 last one from me,gq,sitting in the park, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKUrGs88HDQ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ZapatootheTiger Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Just sorting out Owen Gray's, Freddie McGregor's and Dread Flimstone's... Gimme a few minutes Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ZapatootheTiger Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Just sorting out Owen Gray's, Freddie McGregor's and Dread Flimstone's... Gimme a few minutes All in "glorious" 64kbps sound... Owen Gray... https://www.box.net/shared/p78d00uv0t Freddie McGregor... https://www.box.net/shared/pa5ick47dt Dread Flimstone etc... https://www.box.net/shared/ko2g1m5fet Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest andrew bin Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 All in "glorious" 64kbps sound... Owen Gray... https://www.box.net/shared/p78d00uv0t Freddie McGregor... https://www.box.net/shared/pa5ick47dt Dread Flimstone etc... https://www.box.net/shared/ko2g1m5fet thanks i do like the freddie mcgregor version Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 Cheers some how i prefer Georgie fame's both brilliant though :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: How can anyone favour Georgie Fame's lukewarm cover version of this Billy Stewart SOUL CLASSIC???! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 How can anyone favour Georgie Fame's lukewarm cover version of this Billy Stewart SOUL CLASSIC???! Was thinking the same ...The original & the greatest...but not the up to datest Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted March 10, 2009 Author Share Posted March 10, 2009 How can anyone favour Georgie Fame's lukewarm cover version of this Billy Stewart SOUL CLASSIC???! every one is entiltled to their own opinion get of your high horse just happen to like Geogie since i saw him at the Le Metro all those years ago Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 every one is entiltled to their own opinion get of your high horse just happen to like Geogie since i saw him at the Le Metro all those years ago Sorry if you're upset, but I'm genuinely shocked. Billy Stewart is one of my all-time favourite records! It all goes back to a seminal moment in my own Soul history which occurred when I was a 15 year-old engineering apprentice. One of the older lads Rob was something of a mod and brought his portable record player to the work's Christmas party, along with a handful of records. All I remember is that he played "Boogaloo Party", Otis Redding's "Hard To Handle" and a UK Chess copy of Billy Stewart. I went particularly wild over Billy Stewart because I'd only heard the Georgie Fame version previously. (Same with Barbara Acklin "Am I The Same Girl" - I'd bought Dusty Springfield's OK version!) I'd grown up seeing Georgie Fame and the UK beat groups on TV and liked them well enough, but later on I really resented the fact that I'd been denied hearing the original versions of "Go Now" etc. by a partisan BBC. (I'm still catching up in some cases!) Georgie Fame's version isn't BAD in itself (I have it in iTunes), and it has it's own nice touches, but emotionally it's not a patch on Billy Stewart. Neither are any of the other versions (IMO!) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Soulboy69 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I think i prefer the backing track on the Georgie Fame version but prefer the vocal on the Billy Stewart version Speaking of Georgie Fame covers, i actually prefer his version of "Sweet Thing" to the Spinners version, will i get my coat? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I think i prefer the backing track on the Georgie Fame version but prefer the vocal on the Billy Stewart version Speaking of Georgie Fame covers, i actually prefer his version of "Sweet Thing" to the Spinners version, will i get my coat? Well worth checking out is GF's " Rhythm and Blues at the Flamingo " album ........ Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 He was the only UK act who really got into black music as opposed to copying it. Original mods reckon he was the only one they would go to watch and the same goes for a lot of young West Indians at the time, and that includes Geno, Jimmy James etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) I used to be a bit resentful of the fact that Georgie had the hit with it and that Billy Stewart couldn't get a look in over here, but over the course of the last 40-odd years I've come to realise that, in all honesty, there's not really a lot to separate the two versions in terms of quality and sincerity... ...Unlike the two versions of "Go Now", where the Moody Blues' brilliant rendition is much better than Bessie Banks turgid exercise in overemotion Edited March 10, 2009 by TONY ROUNCE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Nickinstoke Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 I read an interview with Elton John, back in the 70s, when he talked about his time backing visiting soul artists in the 60s. He was backing Billy Stewart one night and when he started "Sitting in the park" a young mod in the crowd started shouting out Georgie Fame's name, whereupon Billy jumped from the stage and chased the lad out of the club. I'd love to have seen that - Billy wasn't a small man! Nick Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest biggray1 Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 Sitting in the park imo is the best song ever..oh and all who have recorded this wonderful song sound great..but you just gotta pic Billys rendition as#1. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ZapatootheTiger Posted March 10, 2009 Share Posted March 10, 2009 It's one of those grand songs that it's difficult to ruin. Out of the 6 different versions I have, I find Owen Gray's the "thinnest" and Freddie McGregor's surprisingly good, while liking all of them. The original versions aren't always the best... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest scratuglia Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I've read The Zombies did it on the BBC and it's on their box set Zombie Heaven. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Geoff Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 How can anyone favour Georgie Fame's lukewarm cover version of this Billy Stewart SOUL CLASSIC???! I don't dislike Georgie's version, but can't compare to the Billy Stewart, a guy who made many great records. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 a guy who made many great records. ...as did Georgie Fame, who never made one as awful as "Summertime" either! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest mel brat Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 He was backing Billy Stewart one night and when he started "Sitting in the park" a young mod in the crowd started shouting out Georgie Fame's name, whereupon Billy jumped from the stage and chased the lad out of the club. I'd love to have seen that - Billy wasn't a small man! Nick (...and I hope he caught him!) Dave Godin once told me that Elton John (as Reggie Dwight) was a regular visitor to the Soul City record shop, but always went for the female vocalists. He (Godin) reckoned that Elton modeled his singing style on the black girls, whereas Rod Stewart modeled his act on male R&B singers. Elton had played backing with Patty Labelle & her Belles several times, apparently. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest newone Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 ...as did Georgie Fame, who never made one as awful as "Summertime" either! what about that awful song about jarrow marches billy stewart any day Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 what about that awful song about jarrow marches billy stewart any day Yeh... except that was Alan Price - not Georgie! Truth is, I always used to mix them up too! But I'm with you... Billy Stewart.... by several stone! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest newone Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yeh... except that was Alan Price - not Georgie! Truth is, I always used to mix them up too! But I'm with you... Billy Stewart.... by several stone! Sean yep must be twins seperated at birth Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Alan & Georgie Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 No mistaking which is Billy though! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
dthedrug Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Heard this for the first time in a long time this morning sounded absolutley fantastic especially the backing wonder if there are any more versions Hi Ted this tune is a standard and there are quite a few I remember Cilla Black singing it on her show late 6ts Etta James did it on Chess i will try and researc this one as for Goegy Boy its the best version and if you got his live at the Flamingo LP? heres the DK link I saw Billy Stewart there in 68 singing this classic song DAVE KIL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ZapatootheTiger Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) I forgot to add there's a version (of SITTING IN THE PARK) by Dr. Alimantado - purists beware! Edited March 12, 2009 by ZapatootheTiger Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Raywebster Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I saw Georgie Fame in the 70's on a night out at Bailey's in Derby and he was crap. His records were ok, but i didn't rate his live performance. I might have caught him on a bad night but i wasn't the only one complaining. Regarding "Sitting in the Park" didn't Major Lance do a version, i know some famous Soul singer did. Ray. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sjclement Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 ...as did Georgie Fame, who never made one as awful as "Summertime" either! Rosetta are you better, are you well,well,well ?........Well? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Rosetta are you better, are you well,well,well ?........Well? Not saying that "Rosetta" was either Fame or Price;s finest hour but If your argument is that this is in any way worse than "Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrop-chic-poppop-a-poppop-HAH", then it's just failed. Miserably..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I've just started to collate information about one of my mates, Gerry Kenny aka The Minister Of Noise, Sir Freddie Viadukt etc with a view to writing his biography and as I have done so I have found that Gerry used to play in the 60's for a band from Leigh (Lancashire) named 'The Beat Boys'. Here they are: Check Georgie out second left, his first band. Leigh-Boy and proud of it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 I've just started to collate information about one of my mates, Gerry Kenny aka The Minister Of Noise, Sir Freddie Viadukt etc with a view to writing his biography and as I have done so I have found that Gerry used to play in the 60's for a band from Leigh (Lancashire) named 'The Beat Boys'. Here they are: Check Georgie out second left, his first band. Leigh-Boy and proud of it. 1963 for the lads that care. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) 1963 for the lads that care. Surely this is a late 50s photo, Barry? GF was already fronting the Blue Flames in '63, and that's when that group's first record came out on indie label R & B. "R & B At the Flamingo" came out in '64, so if this is '63 then he aged about 5 years overnight on that album's cover... ...great pic, though! Edited March 13, 2009 by TONY ROUNCE Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) Surley this is a late 50s photo, Barry? GF was already fronting the Blue Flames in '63, and that's when that group's first record came out on indie label R & B. "R & B At the Flamingo" came out in '64, so if this is '63 then he aged about 5 years overnight on that album's cover... ...great pic, though! Clive Powell ( GF ) played in a Leigh based band - The Dominoes - in 1958 , so is the photograph of them , and dating from that time ? ......... Malc Burton Edited March 13, 2009 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest TONY ROUNCE Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Clive Powell ( GF ) played in a Leigh based band - The Dominoes - in 1958 , so is the photograph of them , and dating from that time ? ......... Malc Burton That would make sense, Malc - he looks about 15 here, which he would have been (or thereabouts) in '58.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) That would make sense, Malc - he looks about 15 here, which he would have been (or thereabouts) in '58.... After The Dominoes , he played with / for Rory Blackwell in Rory & The Blackjacks in 1959 , at the age of 16 ...... I thought it might be them if not The Dominoes , but neither of the guitarists looks like RB , after checking a website photograph of him , so it would seem it was The Dominoes . Malc Burton Edited March 13, 2009 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ZapatootheTiger Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 GF was already fronting the Blue Flames in '63, and that's when that group's first record came out on indie label R & B. "R & B At the Flamingo" came out in '64, so if this is '63 then he aged about 5 years overnight on that album's cover... ...great pic, though! Would it have been this one Tony? From Tapir's: JB 113 Clive & Gloria With The Blue Flames - Change Of Plan // Little Gloria 1963 From my UK 7 - no mention of the Blue Flames (and no aural sign on "Gloria", though musically (my fading memory suggests) it sounds like them. Have a listen... https://www.box.net/shared/4bkm06rr76 I wonder who "Clive" and "Gloria" were... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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