Simsy Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 I can't believe no-one's mentioned Martha Jean Love's 'Old Time Lover'! In my top five, together with San Franciscan TKO's - Make Up Your Mind Luther Ingram - Baby Don't You Weep Inspirations - Gotta Find A New Love Ben E King - Gettin' To Me. link In fairness to SteveCee, he had already mentioned the Ben E King number.
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 In fairness to SteveCee, he had already mentioned the Ben E King number. link and i mentioned the Sanfransican TKO's
Simsy Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 (edited) I can't believe no-one's mentioned Martha Jean Love's 'Old Time Lover'! In my top five, together with San Franciscan TKO's - Make Up Your MindLuther Ingram - Baby Don't You Weep Inspirations - Gotta Find A New Love Ben E King - Gettin' To Me. link In fairness Johnny One Trout had already mentiond the San Franciscan TKO's. Edited May 22, 2005 by Ian Sims
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted May 22, 2005 Posted May 22, 2005 Like the JJ Barnes "Everybody Needs Somebody" Motown acetate - anyone got a soundfile of this? link Just put it up in sounds
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 This has been mentioned here before but well worth a listen, different version of Porgy & The Monarchs
Garethx Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 The Martha Jean Love cover-up is a fantastic record, that would have been a massive sound at any point in the scene's history.
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 The Martha Jean Love cover-up is a fantastic record, that would have been a massive sound at any point in the scene's history. link Don't think I've heard that. I haven't heard half of the tracks people have mentioned, shame a few more clips couldn't have gone up
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Don't think I've heard that. I haven't heard half of the tracks people have mentioned, shame a few more clips couldn't have gone up link Pete I have put a few up in the sounds section JJ Barnes, Art Gentry, Wee Willie Walker and some others that i can't recall right now mind you, you'll hate them
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 Pete I have put a few up in the sounds section JJ Barnes, Art Gentry, Wee Willie Walker and some others that i can't recall right now mind you, you'll hate them link OK I'll go have a listen and report back
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 Pete I have put a few up in the sounds section JJ Barnes, Art Gentry, Wee Willie Walker and some others that i can't recall right now mind you, you'll hate them link JJ Barnes was ok - nothing special, certainly not one of the best unissued Motown's; Wee Willie Walker was playing at 78 for some reason; Sy Hytower lasted 10 seconds before I turned it off and I got bored of Art Gentry after about 25 seconds. So you were right as always!
Garethx Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Pete, have you got a full soundfile of Eddie Holland "Daydreamer" that you could post up? It would be very much appreciated.
Garethx Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Just been listening to Eddie Holman's "Hold Me In Your Arms" on Grapevine again, and I have to say what a simply amazing record this is. I've never really thoroughly listened to the lyrics before, and they really make the record a masterpiece of regret and understated emotion. I'm guessing the reason it was never released at the time is that at over three minutes long it was deemed too long to be a single. Shame that it was dropped from allnighter playlists as soon as it was released on Grapevine. Before it came out it seemed you couldn't avoid it: it was played about ten times at Cleethorpes 2003. Oh well...
vnicepce Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 enclosed is a sample of the version I had years ago which ...... THE VOLCANOS link
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 enclosed is a sample of the version I had years ago which ...... THE VOLCANOS link .....I'm ,Trammping' at the bit..(gedditt?)..cos, the sample....Disney wurk! link
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 Pete, have you got a full soundfile of Eddie Holland "Daydreamer" that you could post up? It would be very much appreciated. link Here you go..
Garethx Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Many thanks Pete. God, I love this record. Early Motown just has a mystique that much of the later material lacks.
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 (edited) Hmmm never mind - cocked it up anyway Edited May 23, 2005 by Pete-S
Chalky Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 This might be an unreleased demo version of Needless To Say by Bernard Williams though I have it listed as Tears Tell The Whole Sad Story link I've another demo without the horns somewhere. Also a version by the Tropics.
Guest James Trouble Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 I really like Little Anne "Who Are You Trying To Fool". Billy Garner "Brand New Girl" is also rather impressive, if you like to feel like you've been kicked in the bollocks when you're dancing.
Chalky Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Not seen Butch's Jean Carter - I Wanna Know mentioned yet...Decca acetate. Superb stuff!
Guest James Trouble Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 (edited) The "Follow The Wind" acetates are awesome. It was pressed six times, each one with a different mix, the above soundfile is not regarded as the best one though. In fact the vocal on that one is rather weak. I'll see if I can sort out a file of the best one. Edited May 23, 2005 by James Trouble
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 I really like Little Anne "Who Are You Trying To Fool". Billy Garner "Brand New Girl" is also rather impressive, if you like to feel like you've been kicked in the bollocks when you're dancing. link "Me and baby brother, do the bump together" anyone remember that? These guys do!
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 The "Follow The Wind" acetates are awesome. It was pressed six times, each one with a different mix, the above soundfile is not regarded as the best one though. In fact the vocal on that one is rather weak. I'll see if I can sort out a file of the best one. link :graynone:
Guest James Trouble Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 "Me and baby brother, do the bump together" anyone remember that? These guys do! link Yeah, it is a bit like that. A 'few' years before that though.
Guest Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 It was..had this on tape, slowed it back down when I put it on the PC and identical...we/ce discussed and compared on here before. link Always thought that the very ending - the fade out - vocals are very slightly different Chalky. Have it on an old tape from RS on Hallam. Will dig it out for a listen. Might be the memory going but I thought they were two separate takes Steve
Chalky Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 The "Follow The Wind" acetates are awesome. It was pressed six times, each one with a different mix, the above soundfile is not regarded as the best one though. In fact the vocal on that one is rather weak. I'll see if I can sort out a file of the best one. link I can see why it's not regarded the best one
Chalky Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 (edited) Always thought that the very ending - the fade out - vocals are very slightly different Chalky. Have it on an old tape from RS on Hallam. Will dig it out for a listen. Might be the memory going but I thought they were two separate takes Steve link There's summat like 9 takes altogether, hoping Ady might have read this to say summat. I'll give Gilly a call if not. We did discuss this somewhere on site before so all the info should be there. Edited May 23, 2005 by chalky
Guest Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 There's summat like 9 takes altogether, hoping Ady might have read this to say summat. I'll give Gilly a call if not. link
Guest Baz Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 BETTY BOO - SAY IT ISN'T SO what a f*cking record, never fully appreciated at the time and released to early. An absolute gem. link pure class from miss Boo
Guest James Trouble Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 I can see why it's not regarded the best one link Perhaps not a good idea to post the Liitle Eva version up here, the Colletta Woodson version does kick arse though, but I guess you'll have to trust me on it.
Paul R Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 I know the general attitude to it nowadays, but has anyone mentioned Frank "Bloody" Wilson yet. Paul
Guest Baz Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 I know the general attitude to it nowadays, but has anyone mentioned Frank "Bloody" Wilson yet. Paul link
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 I know the general attitude to it nowadays, but has anyone mentioned Frank "Bloody" Wilson yet. Paul link No, but that's probably because it was released as a demo
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 What about ............I'LL NEVER STOP LOVING YOU - CARLA THOMAS another Kent gem
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 Perhaps not a good idea to post the Liitle Eva version up here, the Colletta Woodson version does kick arse though, but I guess you'll have to trust me on it. link In all seriousness, I don't think a lot of us understand these funky sounds - I don't anyway.
Exustrek Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Loads of good stuff on this thread but i'm surprised no ones mentioned Candle In My Window, wasn't that unissued? Both sides good as well. I liked Ronnie Walker's more sober sounding version of Trouble that came out a while back too and whilst it's not necessarily the best unissued Motown track, I love the instrumental break in I've Got To Get Away by Tommy Good.
Guest Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 (edited) I agree with Gareth, Eddie Holman "Hold Me In Your Arms" is great and must be one of the best unissued northern soul tracks ever, a bit monotonous but stilll brilliant. I rarely think unissued tracks are as good as the best stuff that actually was issued but there are some superb tunes. Moses Smith "Try My Love" superb northern. Weak vocal effort IMO but with a backing this good it doesn't matter too much! Nelson Sanders "It's Real" great mid-tempo Detroit Metros "What's Wrong With Your Love" the version with horns is great, the other version not as good IMO. All versions of Jesse James "Love Is Alright" are very good IMO. Butch's version sounds like the one that came out on CD as well as on Soul City. Doesn't Kenny Burrell have the other version, with organ and alternate vocal take? I actually prefer the version with organ instead of strings, sounds very special out loud. The instrumental is also good. Edited May 23, 2005 by Guest
Pete S Posted May 23, 2005 Author Posted May 23, 2005 Doesn't Kenny Burrell have the other version, with organ and alternate vocal take? I actually prefer the version with organ instead of strings, sounds very special out loud. The instrumental is also good. link Thats the one I sent up.
Garethx Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Agree with you John, Carla Thomas "I'll Never Stop..." is a very special record indeed. Couldn't believe it when I first heard it, a comment which applies to a lot of the unissued stuff like Lorraine Chandler, John Edwards, Peggy Gaines, Maxine Brown, Johnnie Taylor, TKOs etc. that got their first airing at the 100 Club. I actually think we're quite spoilt these days in that there's a wealth of great stuff that wasn't available to deejays 'back in the day.' It's always interesting to speculate how big some of these records might have been at the major venues of yesteryear: imagine a packed Casino hearing "You Only Live Twice" for the first time: a spine-tingling prospect.
jocko Posted May 23, 2005 Posted May 23, 2005 Well I keep reading through this to think of a title and find somebodys covered it, my top 3 are mentioned Betty Boo, proper Northern Soul,loved it from first time, Chuck Jackson WWTL, spine tingling and reminder of great days, but tops for me is the oft mentioned Diane Lewis, possibly in my all time top few records of anysort!! One that would have made as No 1 for me was Searlings Charletta Lies, unissued Sussex record I thought, but believe it was found to be issued, anyone confirm? Grapevine have been throwing some nice unissued stuff lately (assume it still counts if cd only) the Anita Robbins track off the recent Most Wanted cd I think would sound great out although it is a bot left field vocally, and the Syl Johnson track of either Sound/ Talk of The Grapevine would sound great on one of those camping weekends John and Alison seem to love. Oops just remembered another worthy of mention, Popcorn Wylies Hanky Panky, superb dance music, Cheers Jock
Paul R Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 No, but that's probably because it was released as a demo link Might be splitting hairs a bit, but if the stories you hear are true it was more likely stolen as a demo after the rest were destroyed. Whatever the stories are, it still wasn't officially released until the UK issues in 79. I know that it goes aginst the general concensus in the "scene" nowadays but no matter how over hyped, over played and over here it is, in my opinion it is still a bloody good track. Paul
Louise Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 Grapevine have been throwing some nice unissued stuff lately (assume it still counts if cd only) the Anita Robbins track off the recent Most Wanted cd I think would sound great out although it is a bot left field vocally, Cheers Jock link Anita Robbins is also available on the latest Grapevine 45
Louise Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 Also a version by the Tropics. link Its The Topics on a Virtue acetate
Guest Johnny One Trout Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 Might be splitting hairs a bit, but if the stories you hear are true it was more likely stolen as a demo after the rest were destroyed. Whatever the stories are, it still wasn't officially released until the UK issues in 79. I know that it goes aginst the general concensus in the "scene" nowadays but no matter how over hyped, over played and over here it is, in my opinion it is still a bloody good track. Paul link and you are entitled to that opinion, personally i grew tired of it very quickly at Wigan and it's never really been a favourite for me sorry.
Guest Dan Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 Dunno, kind of wah-wah synth noise sounds like it's been added on years later link i think you'll find they're steel drums
Guest fuzzyjon Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 I can't believe no-one's mentioned Martha Jean Love's 'Old Time Lover'! In my top five, together with San Franciscan TKO's - Make Up Your Mind Luther Ingram - Baby Don't You Weep Inspirations - Gotta Find A New Love Ben E King - Gettin' To Me. link Yep.... the Luther track is indeed a great one! Anyone know when it will show the light of day anywhere? Ady reckons it will appear on a Kent comp.... eventually. I hope so...... the girlfriend is going mad to get hold of a copy! Cheers Jon
Makemvinyl Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 kin ell Pete..tough question as there's so many.... Diane Lewis - You Ain't Got A Chance must be up there. Kae Williams - Our Love Is Dying top tune too Suspicion must rate as one of the best unissued Motown along with Temptations - C'mon Back To Me Baby. link Temps A tear from a womans eye Doug
Chalky Posted May 24, 2005 Posted May 24, 2005 Its The Topics on a Virtue acetate link Hi Louise, meant to say the Topics. Not to be bconfused by any other group with the same name. If this is on a Virtue Acetate who has it now?
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