I've read in a last year post that it was a 25 quid tune but went to 50 yesterday on ebay and seen at 100 in another list? someone got an idea of a fair value for this one?

Thx

Christophe

I only paid £25 last year, there was some speculation about the white ones i think [could be wrong though] it seems its current value may have something to do with its re-activation, great record btw

I sold a copy for $66 (£45-ish) on eBay just the other week. Don't quite understand the fuss about it myself. Fairly poor vocal delivery in my opinion if you compare with the other two tunes that uses the same backing track.

  HARRY CROSBY said:

I only paid £25 last year, there was some speculation about the white ones i think [could be wrong though] it seems its current value may have something to do with its re-activation, great record btw

ALL DEMOS IV SEEN ARE OFF CENTRE

  Sebastian said:

I sold a copy for $66 (£45-ish) on eBay just the other week. Don't quite understand the fuss about it myself. Fairly poor vocal delivery in my opinion if you compare with the other two tunes that uses the same backing track.

Disagree mate .... think the vocal and lyrics are much better.

  kawakid said:

ALL DEMOS IV SEEN ARE OFF CENTRE

Mine isn't.

Thanks all for the answers, It's what I thought: for me, it's a great record but still remain a cheapie.

I was a bit surprised to be over bid on two copy on e-bay (one was yours, Sebastian) those weeks...

Someone has got a copy to sell at a descent price?...

And even if A. Williams version is good I definitively prefer this one....

  tof said:

And even if A. Williams version is good I definitively prefer this one....

Fabulous Apollos "Determination" on VALTONE has also got the same basic backing track:

  Sebastian said:

Fabulous Apollos "Determination" on VALTONE has also got the same basic backing track:

Might seem a daft question but is ANDRE WILLIAMS the same backing track, sounds very similar

  tiggerwoods said:

Disagree mate .... think the vocal and lyrics are much better.

Me too. I think it's great.

I have always loved the Fabulous Apollos, but lately have started to love Clarence Jackson more.

Great tune

  HARRY CROSBY said:

Might seem a daft question but is ANDRE WILLIAMS the same backing track, sounds very similar

Yes:

 

  Sebastian said:

Yes:

 

Thanks sebastian, should read the whole thread really before replying

  Sebastian said:

Fabulous Apollos "Determination" on VALTONE has also got the same basic backing track:

 

Thanks, It's true that is a great tune ....

  Sebastian said:

Don't quite understand the fuss about it myself. Fairly poor vocal delivery in my opinion if you compare with the other two tunes that uses the same backing track.

simple answer to disputes over which is the best vocal - play the instrumental, which was the first version of this song I heard in a venue, and is bang on the money traditional northern soul.

I miss that era, where maybe a third of the playlists were inst's. not exactly been flooded with new discovery inst's in the last two decades, have we ?

  purist said:

simple answer to disputes over which is the best vocal - play the instrumental, which was the first version of this song I heard in a venue, and is bang on the money traditional northern soul.

I miss that era, where maybe a third of the playlists were inst's. not exactly been flooded with new discovery inst's in the last two decades, have we ?

yes ......the instrumental was the played track.......

I love this backing track and have the three versions.

Got the Fabulous Apollos - Determination on a nice white promo that I got from John Anderson

I have the Clarence Jackson on a white promo too which has What's So Good To You on the other side. Mine isn't off centre either

I have to say my favourite though is Andre William's version - cheapest but it has real ooomphhh! that the others just don't have

Cheers

Richard

  Premium Stuff said:

I love this backing track and have the three versions.

Got the Fabulous Apollos - Determination on a nice white promo that I got from John Anderson

I have the Clarence Jackson on a white promo too which has What's So Good To You on the other side. Mine isn't off centre either

I have to say my favourite though is Andre William's version - cheapest but it has real ooomphhh! that the others just don't have

Cheers

Richard

Have to agree with you here, never heard the Andre Williams version before it was posted and I am well impressed I particularly like the female backing, I have the Clarence Jackson version but the Fabolous Apollos version is pure class! guess i like all 3 then !

Steve

Edited March 8, 200916 yr by StevieNoWonder

are the copies with the insrumentals on re issues ?

  codfromderby said:

are the copies with the insrumentals on re issues ?

If you mean Clarence Jackson on Valtone, as far as I know both the orange issue and white promo are genuine originals - it's just that they put a different flip on. Interesting thought though about the initial promo coming out with two vocal tracks on and then doing the issue with the instrumental - cant' see it would save money - unless royalties - why would they do it like that

Cheers

Richard

FOR PURE DETROIT YOU CANT BEAT ANDRE WILLIAMS ,AWESOME TRACK IMO,LOVE CLARENCE JACKSON BUT INCREDIBLE RECORD.NO MYSTERY ON THE WHITE DEMOS EITHER .

BAZ A

Eerie. Was only thinking today that this is one yo don't hear much.

Tony

  baz atkinson said:

FOR PURE DETROIT YOU CANT BEAT ANDRE WILLIAMS ,AWESOME TRACK IMO,LOVE CLARENCE JACKSON BUT INCREDIBLE RECORD.NO MYSTERY ON THE WHITE DEMOS EITHER .

BAZ A

I have two out of the three... Clarence Jackson and Andre Williams.

Always wanted a copy of the Fabulous Apollos, as this was always my favourite.

Still want one, but like I said before, Clarence has recently pipped the Fab lads to take number one spot for me!