Kegsy Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Had a couple of buyers insisting on vinyl copies lately. Whats the best sure fire way to make sure its vinyl and not styrene. Cheers Kegsy
Sebastian Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Whats the best sure fire way to make sure its vinyl and not styrene. If there's an edge on the outer part of the label where you could peel it off if you wanted to = it's styrene. If the label is moulded into the record and you can't peel it off no matter how much you wanted to = it's vinyl. But then there are also the Amy/Mala/Bell-distributed styrene 45s that have got "painted labels", i.e.: Edited February 26, 2009 by Sebastian
Guest James Trouble Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Tap the record on a table, dull thud = vinyl, if it sounds like it is going to shatter = styrene.
Denbo Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Had a couple of buyers insisting on vinyl copies lately. Whats the best sure fire way to make sure its vinyl and not styrene. Cheers Kegsy Whatever you do, don't use the bending method as a tester, or you'll end up with a cracked or broken record. Best way is to gently tap the record against a hard surface and if it sounds tinny then it styrene, if it gives off a dull sound then it's vinyl. Incidentally, has anyone EVER seen a styrene Lp. Don't think they exist, for obvious reasons. But I could be wrong.
Soulcarp Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Tap the record on a table, dull thud = vinyl, if it sounds like it is going to shatter = styrene. bit drastic
Gasher Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 if it bends its vinyl if you bend it and it snaps in a hundred bits its styrene gman
Sebastian Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 has anyone EVER seen a styrene Lp. Don't think they exist, for obvious reasons. But I could be wrong. Yes, styrene LPs does exist (with stick-on labels just like on 45s). Most copies I've seen of Betty Everett's "I Need You So" LP on SUNSET have been pressed on styrene. I've read that many of the Sunset label LPs were pressed on styrene.
Denbo Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Yes, styrene LPs does exist (with stick-on labels just like on 45s). Most copies I've seen of Betty Everett's "I Need You So" LP on SUNSET have been pressed on styrene. I've read that many of the Sunset label LPs were pressed on styrene. Okay, I stand corrected. Having said that, the Sunset LPs here in the UK are definitely vinyl.
Sebastian Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Okay, I stand corrected. Having said that, the Sunset LPs here in the UK are definitely vinyl. Yes, this only applies to the US releases. I'll try to find a label scan of a styrene LP. I've never seen a non-US styrene record.
Julianb Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Had a couple of buyers insisting on vinyl copies lately. Whats the best sure fire way to make sure its vinyl and not styrene. Cheers Kegsy You selling bootlegs again Kegsy
Guest Ste Brazil Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Had a couple of buyers insisting on vinyl copies lately. Whats the best sure fire way to make sure its vinyl and not styrene. Cheers Kegsy Throw the record hard at a wall, the most dramatic shatter will always be Styrene - always worked for me
Kegsy Posted February 26, 2009 Author Posted February 26, 2009 You selling bootlegs again Kegsy THIS from aman who thinks Kurt Harris is a soul record. Good God !!!!!!!!!. Kegsy
Kegsy Posted February 26, 2009 Author Posted February 26, 2009 Perhaps a better way wouuld be if someone listed some records that were definately Styrene or Vinyl copies and I could compare them with the records I'm trying to flog. Kegsy
Gasher Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 surely easier for you to list rather than us to list thousands of styrene releases would it not?? g man Perhaps a better way wouuld be if someone listed some records that were definately Styrene or Vinyl copies and I could compare them with the records I'm trying to flog. Kegsy
Sebastian Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Snap some well-focused photos of the record labels in question, post them here, and we can all chip in about which are vinyl and which are styrene. Or failing that: see the first reply in this thread. Edited February 26, 2009 by Sebastian
Kegsy Posted February 26, 2009 Author Posted February 26, 2009 surely easier for you to list rather than us to list thousands of styrene releases would it not?? g man The record in question is Wales Wallace Somebody I Know on B.R.C. Any comments. Kegsy
Tommy1 Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Vinyl: https://cgi.ebay.com/45-rare-private-nc-sou...93%3A1|294%3A50 Styrene: https://cgi.ebay.com/Northern-Soul-MAJOR-LA...93%3A1|294%3A50
Dave Fleming Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 styrene = stuck on label or printed on like Mala 45s Vinyl = moulded on label that you can`t peel off Allot of the Ric Tic 45s are Styrene,also Orig of Rose Batiste-Revilot,ect. Dave f...................
Kegsy Posted February 26, 2009 Author Posted February 26, 2009 Allot of the Ric Tic 45s are Styrene,also Orig of Rose Batiste-Revilot,ect. Dave f................... Ok thanks for that and to Tommy1 for the scans. Just compared record to Rose Batiste Original and its most probably styrene. Cheers Kegsy
Hakenig Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Another noteworthy difference is on styrene records there will typically be a very slight raised ridge running along the outer edge of the record, you can see it and usually also feel it with your fingernail. Going slightly off-topic, I'm sure many of you have noticed that styrene 45s, even in perfect condition, often have what looks like an ultra-fine hairline crack running through them but it's actually just a pressing imperfection that results from the cooling process and neither affects play nor makes the 45 prone to snapping where the line is.
Ezzie Brown Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 apparantley supporters of brisol rovers all collect vinyl as i heard them singing on the telly ........" GOOD NIGHT STYRENE,I,LLSEE YOU IN MY DREAMS" !...........prob punk records knowing bristolians ezzie
Guest Paul Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 Tap the record on a table, dull thud = vinyl, if it sounds like it is going to shatter = styrene. Or hit it with a heavy blunt instrument, such as a hammer. Styrene records will shatter. Test all of your valuable records using this scientific method.
Denbo Posted February 26, 2009 Posted February 26, 2009 apparantley supporters of brisol rovers all collect vinyl as i heard them singing on the telly ........" GOOD NIGHT STYRENE,I,LLSEE YOU IN MY DREAMS" !...........prob punk records knowing bristolians ezzie Love it Ezzie, nice observation. :o)
Gene-r Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) Does your gramophone arm cut through the surface to the other side when attempting to play it? If you answered YES, then it's definitely styrene Edited February 27, 2009 by Gene-R
Premium Stuff Posted February 27, 2009 Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) With the information posted elsewhere on a recent thread (especially Chalky's post with the technical spec for styrene and vinyl - search for it) it should be a doddle telling whether a 45 is styrene or vinyl. I don't mean to sound at all patronising (but probably will anyway ) but telling the difference is a fairly basic skill for collecting the stuff we are all into. Fairly straight forward to pick up to be honest. That said, some 45s are a bit tricky. I have a Capitols Cool Jerk/Hello Stranger in my hands on Karen. Not like the usual various pressings. It's Monarch stamped with a scratched in Delta number but has a moulded label on what I take to be vinyl. It feels like vinyl from the weight. Were there many vinyl Monarch pressings around that time does anyone know please? Cheers Richard Edited February 27, 2009 by Premium Stuff
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