Guest Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 hi to all .. great site , very informative. i am a film maker,at the i am working on a Funk music documentary true this is a soul forum/site but i need a little help. i am seeking visual content for the docu..eg old 1980/90s record lists from either "soul bowl" or "Blackgrape" distributors. as at that period a lot of record dealers/dj.collectors used theses and other companies for aquiring there funk and soul (rare groove..dreaded term.lol) could anyone help with some scans of theses lists from that period any help would be really useful. Also any other early 1980s soul funk scene material..e.g magazine articles.video? i know this may not be the best site for this general request, i have posted simular on a few other funk sites.. please check out my forthcoming video samples here. www.myspace.com/geoffreypheasant theres x4 previews.please remember theses are just low resolution clips from a total of 60 mins documentary. my kind regards geoff
Mark Bicknell Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Why don't you contact John Anderson directly at Soul Bowl, he's still trading and I'm sure he would have some of his old lists knocking about, pretty sure John could help you out if you are prepared to cross his palm with silver or anyone else who may offer material. Regards - Mark Bicknell.
jocko Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Contact Paul Mooney on here for Black Grape, he is still in touch with the owner I think and may be able to help. I do have these as well as loads of B&S from then, but they are in someones loft at the moment, let me know if the mags are any good and I can try and retrieve them. Good luck.
Guest Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Thanks guys.thats a lead..i shall contact them directly..most helpful cheers geoff Contact Paul Mooney on here for Black Grape, he is still in touch with the owner I think and may be able to help. I do have these as well as loads of B&S from then, but they are in someones loft at the moment, let me know if the mags are any good and I can try and retrieve them. Good luck.
kevinsoulman Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Thanks guys.thats a lead..i shall contact them directly..most helpful cheers geoff if you have no joy i have loads of lists from soulbowl and vinyl junkie aka ian dewhirst if needed kev
Guest Paul Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Hello Geoff I saw the documentary demo and was very impressed. Black Grape was run by my colleague Garry Cape. You can contact him at garry@garryjcape.com Best regards, Paul Mooney www.selectarecords.com www.millbrand.com
Guest Dave Turner Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) hi to all .. great site , very informative. i am a film maker,at the i am working on a Funk music documentary true this is a soul forum/site but i need a little help. i am seeking visual content for the docu..eg old 1980/90s record lists from either "soul bowl" or "Blackgrape" distributors. as at that period a lot of record dealers/dj.collectors used theses and other companies for aquiring there funk and soul (rare groove..dreaded term.lol) could anyone help with some scans of theses lists from that period any help would be really useful. Also any other early 1980s soul funk scene material..e.g magazine articles.video? i know this may not be the best site for this general request, i have posted simular on a few other funk sites.. please check out my forthcoming video samples here. www.myspace.com/geoffreypheasant theres x4 previews.please remember theses are just low resolution clips from a total of 60 mins documentary. my kind regards geoff Scans of a few lists here https://www.soul-source.co.uk/Groove-...owl-t88692.html Makes my eyes water. Edited February 23, 2009 by Dave Turner
Guest familytree Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 Trailers look interesting... look forward to seeing it whole x
Guest Salv Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 I've got copies of an early 80s fanzine edited by Steve Bryant, called Souled Out, one of which contains a partial Black Grape sales list. It's all Southern and Deep soul though, and was designed to tie in with an article about John Richbourg and his labels, but I was getting the Black Grape lists at the time and I don't remember much funk being included in the regular lists. (Incidentally the list includes Bill Brandon's The Street's Got My Lady for £1.50) Unfortunately I didn't keep any of the regular lists, but Garry Cape ran Black Grape and he posts here as well. If you want to stay with the scene in the 80s I've got an article in the September 1982 edition of The Face which might be of interest. The rare groove scene arguably had its beginnings in various clubs and warehouse parties in London in the very early 80s - Le Kilt, Le Beat Route, The Wag, The Mud Club, The Warehouse and, the best of them all and my favourite club in the early 80s, The Dirtbox. The move to illegal warehouse parties meant that the club goers woudn't wear their best clothes, so ripped jeans, boots and workwear were popular. This look was called Hard Times, and it coincided with a renewed interest in tough 70s funk and the best of the then current funk. The Face article looks at the Hard Times thing, with photos of Steve Lewis who was the DJ at Le Beat Route, Phil and Robert of The Dirtbox, and punters in ripped jeans, and gives a playlist of recommended music that includes The Valentine Brothers' Money's Too Tight To Mention, J. Walter Negro's Shoot The Pump, and Brother D's How We Gonna Make The Black Nation Rise. The article doesn't mention Jay Strongman, but he DJ'ed at both The Dirtbox and The Wag, and was an important figure in the London scene in the early 80s - if you can get in touch with him he would probably be a good source of information on that period. I've also got some flyers somewhere for some of the warehouse parties which I can scan for you - if I can find them. There are some photos of Le Beat Route here https://www.geocities.com/le_beat_route/lebeatpics.html and an article scanned from i-D mag about Steve Lewis here https://www.geocities.com/le_beat_route/lebeatdj.html Ah, I've just found this Facebook group dedicated to The Dirtbox, and started by Rob who was one of the organisers https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26442466301 If you're on Facebook ask there for magazines and stuff. Jay Strongman has posted a couple of playlists - hard to believe you could hear most of this stuff in a single night: 1) "GOT TO GET YOUR OWN" RUEBEN WILSON 2) "WA-DO-DEM" EEK-A-MOUSE 3) ""ONE SCOTCH, ONE BOURBON, ONE BEER" AMOS MILBURN 4) "HYPERTENSION" CALENDER 5) "SATURDAY NITE SPECIAL" THE SUNDOWN PLAYBOYS 6) "SHE'S THE MOST" THE FIVE KEYS 7) "HOWLING AT THE MOON" HANK WILLIAMS 8) "THE BOXING GAME" HURT 'EM BAD 9) "HONKY TONK" JAMES BROWN 10) "HIP HOP BE BOP" MANN PARRISH 11) "SPACE COWBOY" JONZUN CREW 12) "DON'T MAKE ME WAIT" PEECH BOYS 13) "ALL NITE LONG" JOHNNY OTIS 14) "JUNGLE ROCK" HANK MIZELL 15) "SWEET SOUL MUSIC" ARTHUR CONLEY 16) "MONEY'S TOO TIGHT TO MENTION" VALENTINE BROS 17) "PARTY TIME" KURTIS BLOW 18) "CHEW TABACCO RAG" BILLY BRIGGS 19) "BIM BAM" SAM BUTERA 20) "HEY YOU" ROCK STEADY CREW 21) "BLOODSHOT EYES" WYNONIE HARRIS 22) "APACHE" SUGARHILL GANG 23) "LIQUIDATOR" HARRY J ALLSTARS 24) "FEELING GOOD" LITTLE JUNIOR 25) "ANARCHY IN THE UK" SEX PISTOLS 26) "SOUL MAKOSSA" MANU DI BANGO 27) "THE MESSAGE" GRANDMASTER FLASH 28) "SHOUT PTs 1 & 2" THE ISLEY BROS 29) "RAPTURE" BLONDIE 30) "GENIUS OF LOVE" TOM TOM CLUB 31) "EXPANSIONS" LONNIE LISTON SMITH 32) "COOL JERK" THE CAPITOLS 33) "HEY LEROY" JIMMY CASTOR BUNCH
Guest Posted February 23, 2009 Posted February 23, 2009 hi all some great info .thank you all.. by the way this is a unfunded project i am not a company but do hope to get a broadcast with this 60 min doucmentary. once again cheers for the contributions so far..most valued. if interested heres the direct liks to all four preview samples.. 1.VIDEO CLIP 1 OF 4 https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=52154130 2.VIDEO CLIP 2 OF 4 https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=52198424 3.VIDEO CLIP 3 OF 4 https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=52178542 4.VIDEO CLIP 4 OF 4 https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=52192857 CHEERS GEOFF
Eddie Hubbard Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 hi all some great info .thank you all.. by the way this is a unfunded project i am not a company but do hope to get a broadcast with this 60 min doucmentary. once again cheers for the contributions so far..most valued. if interested heres the direct liks to all four preview samples.. 1.VIDEO CLIP 1 OF 4 https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=52154130 2.VIDEO CLIP 2 OF 4 https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=52198424 3.VIDEO CLIP 3 OF 4 https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=52178542 4.VIDEO CLIP 4 OF 4 https://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... D=52192857 CHEERS GEOFF Just watched your films Geoff , really enjoyable , hope you get them finished as they look like essential viewing .I've got a Soul Bowl catalogue from a few years back if you need it , good luck in your search .Best ,Eddie
Guest familytree Posted February 24, 2009 Posted February 24, 2009 I've got copies of an early 80s fanzine edited by Steve Bryant, called Souled Out, one of which contains a partial Black Grape sales list. It's all Southern and Deep soul though, and was designed to tie in with an article about John Richbourg and his labels, but I was getting the Black Grape lists at the time and I don't remember much funk being included in the regular lists. (Incidentally the list includes Bill Brandon's The Street's Got My Lady for £1.50) Unfortunately I didn't keep any of the regular lists, but Garry Cape ran Black Grape and he posts here as well. If you want to stay with the scene in the 80s I've got an article in the September 1982 edition of The Face which might be of interest. The rare groove scene arguably had its beginnings in various clubs and warehouse parties in London in the very early 80s - Le Kilt, Le Beat Route, The Wag, The Mud Club, The Warehouse and, the best of them all and my favourite club in the early 80s, The Dirtbox. The move to illegal warehouse parties meant that the club goers woudn't wear their best clothes, so ripped jeans, boots and workwear were popular. This look was called Hard Times, and it coincided with a renewed interest in tough 70s funk and the best of the then current funk. The Face article looks at the Hard Times thing, with photos of Steve Lewis who was the DJ at Le Beat Route, Phil and Robert of The Dirtbox, and punters in ripped jeans, and gives a playlist of recommended music that includes The Valentine Brothers' Money's Too Tight To Mention, J. Walter Negro's Shoot The Pump, and Brother D's How We Gonna Make The Black Nation Rise. The article doesn't mention Jay Strongman, but he DJ'ed at both The Dirtbox and The Wag, and was an important figure in the London scene in the early 80s - if you can get in touch with him he would probably be a good source of information on that period. I've also got some flyers somewhere for some of the warehouse parties which I can scan for you - if I can find them. There are some photos of Le Beat Route here https://www.geocities.com/le_beat_route/lebeatpics.html and an article scanned from i-D mag about Steve Lewis here https://www.geocities.com/le_beat_route/lebeatdj.html Ah, I've just found this Facebook group dedicated to The Dirtbox, and started by Rob who was one of the organisers https://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=26442466301 If you're on Facebook ask there for magazines and stuff. Jay Strongman has posted a couple of playlists - hard to believe you could hear most of this stuff in a single night: 1) "GOT TO GET YOUR OWN" RUEBEN WILSON 2) "WA-DO-DEM" EEK-A-MOUSE 3) ""ONE SCOTCH, ONE BOURBON, ONE BEER" AMOS MILBURN 4) "HYPERTENSION" CALENDER 5) "SATURDAY NITE SPECIAL" THE SUNDOWN PLAYBOYS 6) "SHE'S THE MOST" THE FIVE KEYS 7) "HOWLING AT THE MOON" HANK WILLIAMS 8) "THE BOXING GAME" HURT 'EM BAD 9) "HONKY TONK" JAMES BROWN 10) "HIP HOP BE BOP" MANN PARRISH 11) "SPACE COWBOY" JONZUN CREW 12) "DON'T MAKE ME WAIT" PEECH BOYS 13) "ALL NITE LONG" JOHNNY OTIS 14) "JUNGLE ROCK" HANK MIZELL 15) "SWEET SOUL MUSIC" ARTHUR CONLEY 16) "MONEY'S TOO TIGHT TO MENTION" VALENTINE BROS 17) "PARTY TIME" KURTIS BLOW 18) "CHEW TABACCO RAG" BILLY BRIGGS 19) "BIM BAM" SAM BUTERA 20) "HEY YOU" ROCK STEADY CREW 21) "BLOODSHOT EYES" WYNONIE HARRIS 22) "APACHE" SUGARHILL GANG 23) "LIQUIDATOR" HARRY J ALLSTARS 24) "FEELING GOOD" LITTLE JUNIOR 25) "ANARCHY IN THE UK" SEX PISTOLS 26) "SOUL MAKOSSA" MANU DI BANGO 27) "THE MESSAGE" GRANDMASTER FLASH 28) "SHOUT PTs 1 & 2" THE ISLEY BROS 29) "RAPTURE" BLONDIE 30) "GENIUS OF LOVE" TOM TOM CLUB 31) "EXPANSIONS" LONNIE LISTON SMITH 32) "COOL JERK" THE CAPITOLS 33) "HEY LEROY" JIMMY CASTOR BUNCH God this brought back lots of memories!.. went to all these clubs.. Steve Lewis also managed 'Animal Nightlife' that we put on up north a few times... heady days indeed x
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