paup-ine Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I know I should of been paying attention, but are the Funk Brothers the Soul Brothers or are they different group of musicians? (As in Earl Van Dyke & The Soul Brothers) Thanks P Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 I know I should of been paying attention, but are the Funk Brothers the Soul Brothers or are they different group of musicians? (As in Earl Van Dyke & The Soul Brothers) Thanks P Same people. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
paup-ine Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Same people. thanks dave P Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) I know I should of been paying attention, but are the Funk Brothers the Soul Brothers or are they different group of musicians? (As in Earl Van Dyke & The Soul Brothers) Thanks P They are one and the same , Pauline ...... When " All For You " / " Too Many Fish In The Sea " was released in March 1965 ( Tamla Motown TMG 506 ) , EMI considered the word " Funk " too risque and would offend the public , and changed the credit on the record to Earl Van Dyke & The " Soul " Brothers ........ Malc Burton THE TORCH REUNION - SATURDAY 24TH OCTOBER Email today and register for advance tickets or go on line for directions, accomodation, venue photos ad ticket hotline https://dkof.freewebpages.org/Torch%20reunion/home.html Ticket reservations - burtonmalc@yahoo.co.uk / pauldonnellybp@aol.com Edited February 22, 2009 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Moore Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 They are one and the same , Pauline ...... When " All For You " / " Too Many Fish In The Sea " was released in March 1965 ( Tamla Motown TMG 506 ) , EMI considered the word " Funk " too risque and would offend the public , and changed the credit on the record to Earl Van Dyke & The " Soul " Brothers ........ Malc Burton THE TORCH REUNION - SATURDAY 24TH OCTOBER Email today and register for advance tickets or go on line for directions, accomodation, venue photos ad ticket hotline https://dkof.freewebpages.org/Torch%20reunion/home.html Ticket reservations - burtonmalc@yahoo.co.uk / pauldonnellybp@aol.com Not too sure about that Malc. There's at least one 1965 US 45 that bears the name 'Soul Brothers' as opposed to Funk Brothers. I seem to remember that somewhere in an interview Berry Gordy claimed to have instigated the name change as the word 'soul' was becoming 'hipper' with the teenage audience. Knowing Mr Gordy's penchant for being a control freak in regard to his business at that stage it's probable that he had the final word I reckon. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) Not too sure about that Malc. There's at least one 1965 US 45 that bears the name 'Soul Brothers' as opposed to Funk Brothers. I seem to remember that somewhere in an interview Berry Gordy claimed to have instigated the name change as the word 'soul' was becoming 'hipper' with the teenage audience. Knowing Mr Gordy's penchant for being a control freak in regard to his business at that stage it's probable that he had the final word I reckon. No , I meant that if referred to here in the UK Dave , that it was EMI who insisted on the change , as they considered the word " Funk " to risque , and would offend the UK public ...... Malc Burton THE TORCH REUNION - SATURDAY 24TH OCTOBER Email today and register for advance tickets or go on line for directions, accomodation, venue photos ad ticket hotline https://dkof.freewebpages.org/Torch%20reunion/home.html Ticket reservations - burtonmalc@yahoo.co.uk / pauldonnellybp@aol.com Edited February 22, 2009 by Malc Burton Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
paup-ine Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 (edited) No , I meant that if referred to here in the UK Dave , that it was EMI who insisted on the change , as they considered the word " Funk " to risque , and would offend the UK public ...... Malc Burton THE TORCH REUNION - SATURDAY 24TH OCTOBER Email today and register for advance tickets or go on line for directions, accomodation, venue photos ad ticket hotline https://dkof.freewebpages.org/Torch%20reunion/home.html Ticket reservations - burtonmalc@yahoo.co.uk / pauldonnellybp@aol.com Very interesting and thank you. P PS - very impressed with the Torch reunion website. Well organised by the looks of things. Edited February 22, 2009 by paup-ine Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
FrankM Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Wikipedia gives a good summary of how the Funk Brothers were released as the Soul Brothers The Funk Brothers shared billing with Van Dyke on some recordings, although they were billed as "Earl Van Dyke & the Soul Brothers", since Motown CEO Berry Gordy, Jr. disliked the word "funk". Alternatively, the name "Funk Brothers" could have been given to the band ex post facto; the term "funky" as an adjective came to be associated with uptempo, southern-styled soul music in the second half of the 1960's; the term "funk" as a noun is typically associated with uptempo soul music from the 1970's onwards. It remains to be verified that the Motown session musicians were actually referred to as the Funk Brothers during the 1960's, as this name does not appear on any record label of the time, nor on any interview or article published about Motown in the 1960's. Funk was a term that jazz players used and it was associated with the smell of sex. It was not a word used in polite middle class (Black or white) Soul Stomp was released by Earl Van Dyke and The Soul Brothers on Soul in September 1964 and two months later on Stateside. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
paup-ine Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 Wikipedia gives a good summary of how the Funk Brothers were released as the Soul Brothers Funk was a term that jazz players used and it was associated with the smell of sex. It was not a word used in polite middle class (Black or white) Soul Stomp was released by Earl Van Dyke and The Soul Brothers on Soul in September 1964 and two months later on Stateside. Thanks FM. P Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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