Guest selectasoul Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Over the years I've acquired a number of US 45's which I have never seen before or since buying them. I was just wondering if anyone else had copies of the following. The following are all Detroit:- J.J. BARNES - MY BABY - INVASION - 1001 Listed in lots of discographies, so I diidn't think it was that rare until Martin Koppell told me he had never seen a copy. Also checked with Dave Rimmer, who asked around and nobody had seen a copy either. LITTLE RODGER HATCHER - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF - DEL-LA-NORTHERN - 103 Another record thet been's rumoured to exist, Originally mentioned by Rodger himself in Steve Bryant's excellent Souled Out mag. John Ridley in his sleeve notesto the Roger Hatcher Collection CD on Expansion doubted it's existence. Cracking dancer co-written & produced by Johnnie Mae Matthews. DONI BURDICK - FAITH - SOUND IMPRESSIONS RECORDS - 6812 TIM DAUGHERTY - FLYING HIGH - ATAC - 2879 LITTLE SONNY GREEN - PEOPLE TALKING BOUT' ME - WHIP - 276 THE ELDEE'S - YOU'RE SUCH A SWEET THING - BIG HIT - 115 I collected the complete Big Hit label, this was easily the hardest to obtain, again I have never seen another copy. End of Detroit SPYDER TURNER - SPYDERMAN - SHATTER RECORDS 1964
Guest selectasoul Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Over the years I've acquired a number of US 45's which I have never seen before or since buying them. I was just wondering if anyone else had copies of the following. The following are all Detroit:- J.J. BARNES - MY BABY - INVASION - 1001 Listed in lots of discographies, so I diidn't think it was that rare until Martin Koppell told me he had never seen a copy. Also checked with Dave Rimmer, who asked around and nobody had seen a copy either. LITTLE RODGER HATCHER - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF - DEL-LA-NORTHERN - 103 Another record thet been's rumoured to exist, Originally mentioned by Rodger himself in Steve Bryant's excellent Souled Out mag. John Ridley in his sleeve notesto the Roger Hatcher Collection CD on Expansion doubted it's existence. Cracking dancer co-written & produced by Johnnie Mae Matthews. DONI BURDICK - FAITH - SOUND IMPRESSIONS RECORDS - 6812 TIM DAUGHERTY - FLYING HIGH - ATAC - 2879 LITTLE SONNY GREEN - PEOPLE TALKING BOUT' ME - WHIP - 276 THE ELDEE'S - YOU'RE SUCH A SWEET THING - BIG HIT - 115 I collected the complete Big Hit label, this was easily the hardest to obtain, again I have never seen another copy. End of Detroit SPYDER TURNER - SPYDERMAN - SHATTER RECORDS 1964 That posted on it's own??? BIG MAYBELLE - IT'S A MAN'S MAN'S WORLD - ROJAC 1009 Originally on Chess or was it? Edited February 15, 2009 by selectasoul
Guest selectasoul Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Originally on Chess or was it? I apologise about this being in pieces, but it's posting on it's own?? ALBERT JONES - I'M BUSTING NUTS - CANDY APPLE - 744 - Canadian CLEVELAND ROBINSON - COME CHANGE YOUR NAME TO MINE - CLEVELAND ROBINSON SINGS - 2-63 JEAN WELLS - ALL THIS MADNESS - PHILA. - 1835 Edited February 15, 2009 by selectasoul
Baz Atkinson Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Over the years I've acquired a number of US 45's which I have never seen before or since buying them. I was just wondering if anyone else had copies of the following. The following are all Detroit:- J.J. BARNES - MY BABY - INVASION - 1001 Listed in lots of discographies, so I diidn't think it was that rare until Martin Koppell told me he had never seen a copy. Also checked with Dave Rimmer, who asked around and nobody had seen a copy either. LITTLE RODGER HATCHER - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF - DEL-LA-NORTHERN - 103 Another record thet been's rumoured to exist, Originally mentioned by Rodger himself in Steve Bryant's excellent Souled Out mag. John Ridley in his sleeve notesto the Roger Hatcher Collection CD on Expansion doubted it's existence. Cracking dancer co-written & produced by Johnnie Mae Matthews. DONI BURDICK - FAITH - SOUND IMPRESSIONS RECORDS - 6812 TIM DAUGHERTY - FLYING HIGH - ATAC - 2879 LITTLE SONNY GREEN - PEOPLE TALKING BOUT' ME - WHIP - 276 THE ELDEE'S - YOU'RE SUCH A SWEET THING - BIG HIT - 115 I collected the complete Big Hit label, this was easily the hardest to obtain, again I have never seen another copy. End of Detroit SPYDER TURNER - SPYDERMAN - SHATTER RECORDS 1964 Hello Richard none of these are in any relevant quides I have ,would be handy to get some more scans up etc so we could look at production credits etc,is the Doni BURDICK track a version of Melvin Davis faith? These records definetly need discussion,veryhard these days to turn up tacks which cant be authenticated,wonder what John Mnaship thinks. BAZ A
Guest selectasoul Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Over the years I've acquired a number of US 45's which I have never seen before or since buying them. I was just wondering if anyone else had copies of the following. The following are all Detroit:- J.J. BARNES - MY BABY - INVASION - 1001 Listed in lots of discographies, so I diidn't think it was that rare until Martin Koppell told me he had never seen a copy. Also checked with Dave Rimmer, who asked around and nobody had seen a copy either. LITTLE RODGER HATCHER - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF - DEL-LA-NORTHERN - 103 Another record thet been's rumoured to exist, Originally mentioned by Rodger himself in Steve Bryant's excellent Souled Out mag. John Ridley in his sleeve notesto the Roger Hatcher Collection CD on Expansion doubted it's existence. Cracking dancer co-written & produced by Johnnie Mae Matthews. DONI BURDICK - FAITH - SOUND IMPRESSIONS RECORDS - 6812 TIM DAUGHERTY - FLYING HIGH - ATAC - 2879 LITTLE SONNY GREEN - PEOPLE TALKING BOUT' ME - WHIP - 276 THE ELDEE'S - YOU'RE SUCH A SWEET THING - BIG HIT - 115 I collected the complete Big Hit label, this was easily the hardest to obtain, again I have never seen another copy. End of Detroit SPYDER TURNER - SPYDERMAN - SHATTER RECORDS 1964
Dave Rimmer Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 The Doni Burdick is definitely known. Mike Bolderson wrote an article about Doni Burdick for SKM. Here's what he had to say " "Doni met up with Ernie Stratton who owned a recording studio in Detroit. Stratton had enjoyed success with Patti Young's 'Head And Shoulders' which he had released on his Ernstrat label. After listening to Doni's recordings Stratton said that he would get him a song written by one of the Ruffin brothers. Although this song never materialised other tracks did. Brian 'Funk' Dombrowski set up a late evening recording session and two further tracks were recorded 'Faith' and 'New Rochelle'. Which were subsequently released back to back as Doni Burdick and the Fabulous Thunders on Danny Dallas' SIR label. Largely unheard of on the Northern scene' Faith' was written by Doni's friend Melvin Davies who also had the song released on the Mala label. As for the Fabulous Thunders, well, they didn't actually appear on either track but as Doni said 'a promise is a promise' and he arranged for them to appear on the credits even though they were splitting up."
Dave Rimmer Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 CLEVELAND ROBINSON - COME CHANGE YOUR NAME TO MINE - CLEVELAND ROBINSON SINGS - 2-63 Funnily enough I've just added this to the discography this morning, but then again, the info came from Bosko, who like yourself is a Canadian resident, so I guess you may have been in contact with either him or Martin Koppell about it (Who I know he sees regularly).
Baz Atkinson Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 would love to hear te faith track and the others looks like a real genuine one off,incredible to see this! BAZ A
boba Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I apologise about this being in pieces, but it's posting on it's own?? ALBERT JONES - I'M BUSTING NUTS - CANDY APPLE - 744 - Canadian CLEVELAND ROBINSON - COME CHANGE YOUR NAME TO MINE - CLEVELAND ROBINSON SINGS - 2-63 JEAN WELLS - ALL THIS MADNESS - PHILA. - 1835 I own the jean wells 45, it's on the red phila record like the original press of the butlers on phila (1836)
Guest Brett F Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Fantastic post this, always considered myself a collector above everything, not that interested in the "scene" etc, just love original records, always in awe of such vinyl obscurities. I have one to contribute to this tremendous thread, it's on Pzazz but not listed (to my knowledge), perhaps Bob A you may know more ? I talked with Ady Pountain last year at Soul Essence and he said he had a copy, be interested to know if anyone else has this.....mines a little beat but it plays just fine............ THE MISSING PZAZZ (053) 45' THE FONDELLS ON PZAZZ....... Edited February 15, 2009 by Brett F
boba Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Fantastic post this, always considered myself a collector above everything, not that interested in the "scene" etc, just love original records, always in awe of such vinyl obscurities. I have one to contribute to this tremendous thread, it's on Pzazz but not listed (to my knowledge), perhaps Bob A you may know more ? I talked with Ady Pountain last year at Soul Essence and he said he had a copy, be interested to know if anyone else has this.....mines a little beat but it plays just fine............ THE MISSING PZAZZ (053) 45' THE FONDELLS ON PZAZZ....... i've seen it a couple of times, always trashed, I don't own it. got bootlegged on one of rich rosen's CDs recently.
Guest Brett F Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 i've seen it a couple of times, always trashed, I don't own it. got bootlegged on one of rich rosen's CDs recently. Thought you might know Bob, i actually prefer the flip."Young Love American Style", great vocal reminds me of Darrow Fletcher...... or the young guy from the Burke family.brilliant 45'. Brett
45cellar Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) I apologise about this being in pieces, but it's posting on it's own?? ALBERT JONES - I'M BUSTING NUTS - CANDY APPLE - 744 - Canadian CLEVELAND ROBINSON - COME CHANGE YOUR NAME TO MINE - CLEVELAND ROBINSON SINGS - 2-63 JEAN WELLS - ALL THIS MADNESS - PHILA. - 1835 -Originally on Chess or was it? Love Big Maybelle, Don't Remember Seeing It On Rojac Before. Edited February 15, 2009 by 45cellar
boba Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Thought you might know Bob, i actually prefer the flip."Young Love American Style", great vocal reminds me of Darrow Fletcher...... or the young guy from the Burke family.brilliant 45'. Brett butch outbid me on one of the ones I've seen so he either has a very trashed copy in his collection or has a better copy and bought a trashed copy to sell or trade
Guest Brett F Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 I know it exists but has anyone got a scan (or own's) the Blaster 45' of Tony Fox and "Love, Let Love and Be Love", i talked with Christian B from Scandanavia some years back.........and memory escapes me, he either played it and showed me at some venue, or he said he did own it? I know it is out there but it also must be a major hard 45' to acquire.
Guest Brett F Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) butch outbid me on one of the ones I've seen so he either has a very trashed copy in his collection or has a better copy and bought a trashed copy to sell or trade Hi Bob i got mine from an American dealer, the label is spoilt by writing etc and it does look as though it was dug out of the ground but it plays like a dream, infact i played it a couple of years back on Shaun Robbins Sunday Soul Radio Show. Edited February 15, 2009 by Brett F
Steve G Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Nice thread. And hey Richard good to hear from you - it was nearly 30 years ago when we met in the front room of Trevor Swaine's old house in Tooting...
Corbett80 Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 How hard is the Little Roger Hatcher on Dotties and is it any good??
Premium Stuff Posted February 15, 2009 Posted February 15, 2009 Roger Hatcher - someone mentioned it on here recently on the "name all the Detroit labels" thread. Here is a scan of the Whip record - went through eBay a few years ago now - f**k me why I didn't bid on it . Is this yours Richard or another one? Cheers Richard
Sean Hampsey Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Over the years I've acquired a number of US 45's which I have never seen before or since buying them. I was just wondering if anyone else had copies of the following. SPYDER TURNER - SPYDERMAN - SHATTER RECORDS 1964 I have this. Pretty common £5 record I reckon. Sean
Sebastian Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 I know it exists but has anyone got a scan (or own's) the Blaster 45' of Tony Fox and "Love, Let Love and Be Love", i talked with Christian B from Scandanavia some years back.........and memory escapes me, he either played it and showed me at some venue, or he said he did own it? I know it is out there but it also must be a major hard 45' to acquire. I think Christian B has still got it. I seem to remember that he bought it from someone here on Soul Source. Scan:
Anoraks Corner Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Have had the Little Sonny Green...have you had the Little Mell with Jimmy Landers also on Whip? Had the Eldees and Jean Wells too...but never had the Tim Daugherty or Cleveland Robinson discs...are they any good?
boba Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Have had the Little Sonny Green...have you had the Little Mell with Jimmy Landers also on Whip? Had the Eldees and Jean Wells too...but never had the Tim Daugherty or Cleveland Robinson discs...are they any good? what is the flip of the eldees? Was it good? I'd love to hear it.
Guest carl_p Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Have had the Little Sonny Green...have you had the Little Mell with Jimmy Landers also on Whip? Had the Eldees and Jean Wells too...but never had the Tim Daugherty or Cleveland Robinson discs...are they any good? The Tim Daugherty is pop rock so i didn't bother but i've posted the doni burdick and i'll post the dotty's 45 by little roger hatcher.
Weingarden Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 i have the little roger hatcher. i've played it on the radio, but not in years. i'll try to dig it up. i also have sonny green, not little sonny green, doing something called "people talking about me" on fuller, not a detroit label.
Guest selectasoul Posted February 16, 2009 Posted February 16, 2009 Have had the Little Sonny Green...have you had the Little Mell with Jimmy Landers also on Whip? Had the Eldees and Jean Wells too...but never had the Tim Daugherty or Cleveland Robinson discs...are they any good? Yes I still have WHIP - 347 - LITTLE MELL - AIN'T THAT FUNKY MONKEY FONKY.
Glynthornhill Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Got the 45s from Tony Fox direct. Love Let Love was only pressed in small quantities when issued a runof 100 he told me. Steve G will back me up it WAS heavily played on release. I was selling the 45 for £5 and the LP for a tenner circa 1981. If only Id kept a few back eh - hindsight another useless skill. Edited February 17, 2009 by glynthornhill
Anoraks Corner Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 what is the flip of the eldees? Was it good? I'd love to hear it. 'Help me grow up' / 'You're such a sweet thing' Been years since I owned it and I can't recall it being particularly good...so you'd probably love it, Bob!
Weingarden Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 LITTLE RODGER HATCHER - GET A HOLD OF YOURSELF - DEL-LA-NORTHERN - 103 Another record thet been's rumoured to exist, Originally mentioned by Rodger himself in Steve Bryant's excellent Souled Out mag. John Ridley in his sleeve notesto the Roger Hatcher Collection CD on Expansion doubted it's existence. Cracking dancer co-written & produced by Johnnie Mae Matthews. okay, i have it in my hand right now. it exists. b-side is "i need you."
Guest CliftonHall1 Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 I know it exists but has anyone got a scan (or own's) the Blaster 45' of Tony Fox and "Love, Let Love and Be Love", i talked with Christian B from Scandanavia some years back.........and memory escapes me, he either played it and showed me at some venue, or he said he did own it? I know it is out there but it also must be a major hard 45' to acquire. Richard Searling has/had Tony Fox, used to play it at Clifton Hall, nice tune
Sean Hampsey Posted February 17, 2009 Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Richard Searling has/had Tony Fox, used to play it at Clifton Hall, nice tune A few of us played it Alan, but, like the rest of us, 99% positive that Richard played it off the LP. Sean Edited February 17, 2009 by Sean Hampsey
Guest Brett F Posted February 19, 2009 Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) Got the 45s from Tony Fox direct. Love Let Love was only pressed in small quantities when issued a runof 100 he told me. Steve G will back me up it WAS heavily played on release. I was selling the 45 for £5 and the LP for a tenner circa 1981. If only Id kept a few back eh - hindsight another useless skill. Hi Glyn, great story, can you settle another one of my (bad) memories , is the 45' a slightly different take to the LP ? Just out of interest i first heard Searling play this as a new release at Clifton Hall back in the day, i think either Sean Hampsey (as he mentioned) or Steve Mannion (both dj's at Clifton) told me he played it off the LP. One last thing Glynn i met a guy (name escapes me !) at Martin Dixons Modernism night a few years back who played the Blaster LP and told me he got it as a virtual new release from Record Collector at Broomhill, Sheffield (do you remember that shop ?.It's still there, as was in only a few days back) Brett Edited February 19, 2009 by Brett F
Premium Stuff Posted March 14, 2009 Posted March 14, 2009 Have had the Little Sonny Green...have you had the Little Mell with Jimmy Landers also on Whip? Hi Dave - here's a scan of my Little Mell on Whip 347 Interesting that they decided to go for a red label on this one. Also, the release number duplicates the Carol Anderson number. Cheers Richard
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