I Don't Know

[Barry]

...and simply as the people I am about to speak of are (younger) people that have kind of been introduced into soul music through Southport Weekenders, a clubbing youth and the fact that they have been surrounded by owd bastards during their initiation but....

...over the last 12 months I have noticed a wonderful change, if it is such, in them.

The 'change' I talk of is one that has taken them to a stage whereby, with no peer-pressure at all, to take an interest in the NS scene.

For example this weekend Tina, ex-Geordie, SP veteran and her mate Jude (drug free and normal) are going to Lowton with my missus Gill, Gill being fairly well up on the scene for a young lass, for no other reason than they have obviously been intrigued by it.

These are girls all in their twenties btw.

This scenario I have observed quite often recently, lads and lasses.

Is this proof that the Soulful House scene has become over-commercialised?

Is it proof that certain individuals who maybe don't hold a great deal of 'knowledge' as such, still understand that there is a certain cut off point when it comes to over-comerciallising a scene?

Also is it proof that the SH scene, being an introduction for many youngsters to independant black music these days. has ultimatley been a positive for the Northern Scene?

And, does it prove that (as, on the whole, the youngsters that I have noticed that who have gained an interest in the NS scene of late are not real vinyl-purchasers, fact-finders - for want of a better description, anoraks) there is a certain beauty in just being happy listening and dancing to this great music without all the strings that we have attached to us?

The lure is there at present, there appears to me to be a certain dis-harmony with what is the 'Soulful House' scene presently, that is showing itself with these fantastic random acts of interest.

Promoters take note - the second phase is out there.

[Barry]

...and simply as the people I am about to speak of are (younger) people that have kind of been introduced into soul music through Southport Weekenders, a clubbing youth and the fact that they have been surrounded by owd bastards during their initiation but....

...over the last 12 months I have noticed a wonderful change, if it is such, in them.

The 'change' I talk of is one that has taken them to a stage whereby, with no peer-pressure at all, to take an interest in the NS scene.

For example this weekend Tina, ex-Geordie, SP veteran and her mate Jude (drug free and normal) are going to Lowton with my missus Gill, Gill being fairly well up on the scene for a young lass, for no other reason than they have obviously been intrigued by it.

These are girls all in their twenties btw.

This scenario I have observed quite often recently, lads and lasses.

Is this proof that the Soulful House scene has become over-commercialised?

Is it proof that certain individuals who maybe don't hold a great deal of 'knowledge' as such, still understand that there is a certain cut off point when it comes to over-comerciallising a scene?

Also is it proof that the SH scene, being an introduction for many youngsters to independant black music these days. has ultimatley been a positive for the Northern Scene?

And, does it prove that (as, on the whole, the youngsters that I have noticed that who have gained an interest in the NS scene of late are not real vinyl-purchasers, fact-finders - for want of a better description, anoraks) there is a certain beauty in just being happy listening and dancing to this great music without all the strings that we have attached to us?

The lure is there at present, there appears to me to be a certain dis-harmony with what is the 'Soulful House' scene presently, that is showing itself with these fantastic random acts of interest.

Promoters take note - the second phase is out there.

It was busy I believe and the girls enjoyed their night Bazza - I set them a task to seek you out...but apparently you were always on the stage.

Looking at the state of 'em when they got in, I think it was a good move on your part.

[Rob Wigley]

...and simply as the people I am about to speak of are (younger) people that have kind of been introduced into soul music through Southport Weekenders, a clubbing youth and the fact that they have been surrounded by owd bastards during their initiation but....

...over the last 12 months I have noticed a wonderful change, if it is such, in them.

The 'change' I talk of is one that has taken them to a stage whereby, with no peer-pressure at all, to take an interest in the NS scene.

For example this weekend Tina, ex-Geordie, SP veteran and her mate Jude (drug free and normal) are going to Lowton with my missus Gill, Gill being fairly well up on the scene for a young lass, for no other reason than they have obviously been intrigued by it.

These are girls all in their twenties btw.

This scenario I have observed quite often recently, lads and lasses.

Is this proof that the Soulful House scene has become over-commercialised?

Is it proof that certain individuals who maybe don't hold a great deal of 'knowledge' as such, still understand that there is a certain cut off point when it comes to over-comerciallising a scene?

Also is it proof that the SH scene, being an introduction for many youngsters to independant black music these days. has ultimatley been a positive for the Northern Scene?

And, does it prove that (as, on the whole, the youngsters that I have noticed that who have gained an interest in the NS scene of late are not real vinyl-purchasers, fact-finders - for want of a better description, anoraks) there is a certain beauty in just being happy listening and dancing to this great music without all the strings that we have attached to us?

The lure is there at present, there appears to me to be a certain dis-harmony with what is the 'Soulful House' scene presently, that is showing itself with these fantastic random acts of interest.

Promoters take note - the second phase is out there.

Good news

I've noticed a shift recently as well, but the music is the key,

I think these people are sick to death of being "spoon fed" re-hashed music over electronic tracks and will go out and search for "real" music.

Time very soon to hand over the batton peeps--

Rob

[Guest spudmurphy]

manchester has a club called beat boutique run by kids for kids this is the future i see these lads and girls at the wheel etc and they are into the dancing records and clothes etc and its refreshing to see them

[Guest dundeedavie]

It happens here in Edinburgh at BASICS where we get a younger lot in (mostly female) from the art college

[Guest]

Good news

I've noticed a shift recently as well, but the music is the key,

I think these people are sick to death of being "spoon fed" re-hashed music over electronic tracks and will go out and search for "real" music.

Time very soon to hand over the batton peeps--

Rob

You are an arse Rob.

[Guest Nick Harrison]

You are an arse Rob.

But it sure could well work the opposite way ....... time for some of the original SP veterans to return back to SP .

[Guest]

But it sure could well work the opposite way ....... time for some of the original SP veterans to return back to SP .

It's not the same as it was 10yrs ago. The BBar with it's deeper vibe is where the cool people are now. I'd say Dj's like Krivit, Rahaan etc play a deeper Disco sound and that's what is making certain youngsters curious about Northern. Wether they do get involved is another matter. They have ideas of their own and how much does the Northern scene like new ideas.

There's always been that young Mod element at the 100 club but i'm not in a postion to say how much more involved in niters they get.

[Guest posstot]

It happens here in Edinburgh at BASICS where we get a younger lot in (mostly female) from the art college

..younger?( female mostly??). When's your next do?

[Guest Roddy]

..younger?( female mostly??). When's your next do?

Dont encourage him !

[Liamgp]

..younger?( female mostly??). When's your next do?

They are a great bunch!...

Edited February 17, 2009 by ElGeePee

[michael-j]

who forgot the 45 middles?

[Rob Wigley]

You are an arse Rob.

Looks like I've upset someone, which bit don't you like ?

Women, Drink, Feck, Arse ?

Rob

[Guest familytree]

...and simply as the people I am about to speak of are (younger) people that have kind of been introduced into soul music through Southport Weekenders, a clubbing youth and the fact that they have been surrounded by owd bastards during their initiation but....

...over the last 12 months I have noticed a wonderful change, if it is such, in them.

The 'change' I talk of is one that has taken them to a stage whereby, with no peer-pressure at all, to take an interest in the NS scene.

For example this weekend Tina, ex-Geordie, SP veteran and her mate Jude (drug free and normal) are going to Lowton with my missus Gill, Gill being fairly well up on the scene for a young lass, for no other reason than they have obviously been intrigued by it.

These are girls all in their twenties btw.

This scenario I have observed quite often recently, lads and lasses.

Is this proof that the Soulful House scene has become over-commercialised?

Is it proof that certain individuals who maybe don't hold a great deal of 'knowledge' as such, still understand that there is a certain cut off point when it comes to over-comerciallising a scene?

Also is it proof that the SH scene, being an introduction for many youngsters to independant black music these days. has ultimatley been a positive for the Northern Scene?

And, does it prove that (as, on the whole, the youngsters that I have noticed that who have gained an interest in the NS scene of late are not real vinyl-purchasers, fact-finders - for want of a better description, anoraks) there is a certain beauty in just being happy listening and dancing to this great music without all the strings that we have attached to us?

The lure is there at present, there appears to me to be a certain dis-harmony with what is the 'Soulful House' scene presently, that is showing itself with these fantastic random acts of interest.

Promoters take note - the second phase is out there.

With a more positive take on their experience of S.H at S.P or similar places Barry, perhaps it left them more open minded to check out the roots of it all? I know when I was younger I was open to anything soulful, sounds to me like they may be the same?... a simple take on it I know but hey Im all for an easy life.. x

[Barry]

With a more positive take on their experience of S.H at S.P or similar places Barry, perhaps it left them more open minded to check out the roots of it all? I know when I was younger I was open to anything soulful, sounds to me like they may be the same?... a simple take on it I know but hey Im all for an easy life.. x

It's a course of action that I was waiting for them to take.

We all know the bravado that comfort brings within a scene, they spend a few years on it, get to know a few people, enjoy their time.

But, it is a great moment when youth breaks out of it's cocoon and goes in search for itself.

These people did.

And that proved a lot to me.

There are many that just sit and enjoy their little moment on a scene without seeking answers, nowt wrong with that in reality - but what a joy when something inside makes people follow something, without knowing what it really is they are following.