Souled Out Now Called " A Northern Soul Film" ?

[Jumpinjoan]

bloody hell Joan

What?

[Guest sarahleen]

are they original recordings and is there any weller, duffy stuff ?

[Simsy]

huh huh

Edited February 19, 2009 by Simsy

[SteveM]

I don't get it myself to be fair

I only went out to buy a packet of fags Next thing you know I was wearing a beer towel and taken out a subscription to Black Echoes.

And as for those funny round plastic things in the spare room

Brilliant Reg.

[Little-stevie]

What?

That £333,0000000000 question Joan...

If its all original tracks then you have you show your arse on the Town Hall steps singing " do i love you"..

[Guest Beeks]

That £333,0000000000 question Joan...

If its all original tracks then you have you show your arse on the Town Hall steps singing " do i love you"..

[Guest Bearsy]

That £333,0000000000 question Joan...

If its all original tracks then you have you show your arse on the Town Hall steps singing " do i love you"..

and your goodself Steve singing back "indeed i do" showing your arse too

[SteveM]

show your arse on the Town Hall steps singing " do i love you"..

Thats what Bearsy calls Friday night

[Liljimmycrank]

That £333,0000000000 question Joan...

If its all original tracks then you have you show your arse on the Town Hall steps singing " do i love you"..

You still on the decks at Botuique Friday Steve?

Looking forward to it - Although if you're gonna spend all night giving me sh*t about last weekends result against the Fartowners, wont be impressed!

[Guest Bearsy]

Thats what Bearsy calls Friday night

you wanna join me Steve it really great fun

[Guest rachel]

Can we please stay generally on topic please, thank you

[Guest Mrs Simsy]

and your goodself Steve singing back "indeed i do" showing your arse too

The write up from NUFC looks good. Looking forward to seeing it.

[Headsy]

The Denton in the west end, now thats a good pub

NUFC.......... are you Tony ''marrs bar'' by any chance ?

[ChrisOD1964]

Is the denton where you have to remove your gum shield to have a drink of your pint

chris

Edited February 19, 2009 by ChrisOD1964

[Guest Beeks]

Can we please stay generally on topic please, thank you

Too many pleases spoil the broth rach

[Guest rachel]

Too many pleases spoil the broth rach

Oh please .. can we keep this thread for talk about the film, not some pub or what people are doing at the weekend...

[Guest familytree]

SOULED OUT 2008 KINGS HALL

For gods sake we wernt always old!!!!!!!!! surely to god they can find young people to dance on these scenes we are seeing... it wasnt rocket science! any one would think the dancing is as rare as some of the tunes and can only be done by original casino goers! The lads were cool back in the day not to mention thin!the woman too....I cannot see why you would ask anyone over 30 to be a dance extra no matter how good you are.. it doesnt look right and it certainly does not reflect the scene in its day..... of course I dont know the story line... is it about us old gits?! if so ignore the above

[Simsy]

Edited February 19, 2009 by Simsy

[Guest]

Right this is what happened and what we were told.

18.30pm Wed 16th Feb 2009 Empire Cinemas Screen/Theatre 6 The Gate Newcastle Upon Tyne

Free screening of the not yet finished film - an audience reaction/test preview.

Sound would be patchy and some scenes may have printed dialogue rather than audio as the dubbing was not complete - but a full length movie.

The film does not have a finished title.

Audience approx 150 of all ages.

Now here's the hard bit to describe it and try to give MY opinion.

Set in 1974 in Stoke - time of the Birmingham Bombers, hard times, football hooligans etc

Archive footage and the acted out scenes combine to show kipper ties, big collars and grimish urban life/shit job scenarios.

Some good characters are introduced that will interweave throughout the film.

But we are pretty much into a boy fancies girl situation.

First real blast is the Millionaires - And The Rains Came played dominantly as the girl (a hairdresser} is cutting his hair and he is introduced to the music.

I do not intend to tell the whole bloody plot here but it is an urban love story of the time and a very BIG focus on his adventures when he visits The Casino Club.

Lot's of very good dancing and a typical soundtrack.

The Snake, Out On The Floor, Tainted Love, Gonna Be A Big Thing, 7 Days Too Long, Breakaway and significantly to the film - You Didn't Say A Word - very significant indeed.

There are many side issues with the main characters workmate (Irishman called Brendan) and a big bad Casino drug dealer (Alan) come dancing kingpin.

In all he gets the girl but not the one we think.

He gets the one that wants to make a life for herself.

After the film it's the feedback they want and we all fill in forms relating to what we thought was good, bad, best characters etc

Amazingly they gave a list of proposed titles as well and a chance to pick what you think or indeed give them one of your own.

Conclusion.

A very good insight to the workings of the film. I took it for what it was and obviously I wasn't expecting 'rare soul' insight.

You got a general Wigan soundtrack and they tried to be as authentic as possible with the sets as well.

The blurb says Joe is 17 but even that may change to 19 we were told in the discussion afterwards of which me and my mates were included in as well.

The film people wanted it to be as authentic as possible but this is NOT a documentary.

It's not a This England.

It is a youth culture story from a time gone by.

It wants to be a classic culture love story social issues type in the vein of This Is England.

Young girls of 17 admitted they found it hard to understand - they couldn't connect with the life portrayed back then.

For me it put me back to 1974 and dancing to those sounds in The Denton in the West End of Newcastle. Obviously they were the only sounds you had as loads hadn't even been discovered.

To cap it all though on the way out at the end one lad about 20yrs old told me he had never heard anything like those sounds in his life!

Where could he get them?

Well there is no 'record shop' in town but I just said 'google' Northern Soul mate - You'll be on for hours or more likely bloody years!

So that's it - that's how it went and we'll see what happens next.

I enjoyed the whole thing and no we didn't get paid!!

Cheers

Tony

Hate three milk-time ice lollie's and a bag-o popcorn while readin' this,yummy !! all sounds ok..........................except "and the rains came" what a pile of poop and i used to play it

[spirit]

For gods sake we wernt always old!!!!!!!!! surely to god they can find young people to dance on these scenes we are seeing... it wasnt rocket science! any one would think the dancing is as rare as some of the tunes and can only be done by original casino goers! The lads were cool back in the day not to mention thin!the woman too....I cannot see why you would ask anyone over 30 to be a dance extra no matter how good you are.. it doesnt look right and it certainly does not reflect the scene in its day..... of course I dont know the story line... is it about us old gits?! if so ignore the above

The older extras were used to make up the crowd at the back in the big dance scenes (the idea I think being individual faces and bodies will be indiscernable - I predict lots of pause/slow-mo buttons being pressed on DVD players regardless), and a few of them had tertiary parts, eg. bouncers, etc.

They were also asked in to help the younger dancers get an idea what it was about, and what worked as a dance and what didn't, and for some sort of 'community outreach' type of thing.

[spirit]

The older extras were used to make up the crowd at the back in the big dance scenes

Apart from some of the very young looking older extras (Hi Casper), who I believe were very much to the foreground in some of the scenes.

[Guest familytree]

Apart from some of the very young looking older extras (Hi Casper), who I believe were very much to the foreground in some of the scenes.

Oh good!.. sigh of relief... no offence to the elderly, Im one myself! but it would look very sad if they were featured in swirly skirts and the like.. ... there is hope they have captured the essence of the scene then? heres hoping! x

[Guest Bogue]

Some people in my experience think that the rare or NS scene is the Snake or Frank Wilson and as such dont appreciate the depth of the scene , I would not like to think that some one like that would produce a film based on it .

I compliment you on your freinds my friends dont understand me nor do fellow soulies

Yes, but if it is a film around Wigan Casino, not the scene in general...like it or not... those two that you mention were part of it.

I don't get it myself to be fair

I only went out to buy a packet of fags Next thing you know I was wearing a beer towel and taken out a subscription to Black Echoes.

And as for those funny round plastic things in the spare room

*****************************************************

Simsy,.... Seeing your edits......please tell me you didn't really think Liam Brady was Charlie George ??

Reading the write up things look promising, really looking forward to seeing it

& Bearsy...looks like they still might add characters...so why don't you give em a ring ? ..... & I don't mean the ring you display most Saturday nights

[SteveM]

Simsy,.... Seeing your edits......please tell me you didn't really think Liam Brady was Charlie George ??

No. It was a photo of Ian when he was a young extra in the film "The Arsenal Stadium Mystery"

Back on topic, the film sounds like the "When Saturday Comes/Brassed Off/Billy Elliot" type film. Love story dodgy regional accents, impoverished people on estates or in back to back terraced housing, bit of politics thrown in, good people, bad person coming good in the end etc etc, but with a background of Soul rather than football/Brass bands or whatever ? Is that a fair comment ?

[Simsy]

Simsy,.... Seeing your edits......please tell me you didn't really think Liam Brady was Charlie George ??

No mate that wasn't the reason for the edit. And yes I do know the difference between Liam Brady & Charlie George.

"Frank & Pat were/are ledges but this fella (LB Pic) was the man and when he wasn't Charlie George was!"

Hope you get to read this before it's deleted.

[Guest Byrney]

No. It was a photo of Ian when he was a young extra in the film "The Arsenal Stadium Mystery"

Back on topic, the film sounds like the "When Saturday Comes/Brassed Off/Billy Elliot" type film. Love story dodgy regional accents, impoverished people on estates or in back to back terraced housing, bit of politics thrown in, good people, bad person coming good in the end etc etc, but with a background of Soul rather than football/Brass bands or whatever ? Is that a fair comment ?

You've just made me want to see it, well sold

A bit like Saturday Night Sunday Morning in Baggies

[Casper]

very nice review, things are looking good for the film.....which is great news !

pete n' susan KTF

[viphitman]

Right this is what happened and what we were told.

18.30pm Wed 16th Feb 2009 Empire Cinemas Screen/Theatre 6 The Gate Newcastle Upon Tyne

Free screening of the not yet finished film - an audience reaction/test preview.

Sound would be patchy and some scenes may have printed dialogue rather than audio as the dubbing was not complete - but a full length movie.

The film does not have a finished title.

Audience approx 150 of all ages.

Now here's the hard bit to describe it and try to give MY opinion.

Set in 1974 in Stoke - time of the Birmingham Bombers, hard times, football hooligans etc

Archive footage and the acted out scenes combine to show kipper ties, big collars and grimish urban life/shit job scenarios.

Some good characters are introduced that will interweave throughout the film.

But we are pretty much into a boy fancies girl situation.

First real blast is the Millionaires - And The Rains Came played dominantly as the girl (a hairdresser} is cutting his hair and he is introduced to the music.

I do not intend to tell the whole bloody plot here but it is an urban love story of the time and a very BIG focus on his adventures when he visits The Casino Club.

Lot's of very good dancing and a typical soundtrack.

The Snake, Out On The Floor, Tainted Love, Gonna Be A Big Thing, 7 Days Too Long, Breakaway and significantly to the film - You Didn't Say A Word - very significant indeed.

There are many side issues with the main characters workmate (Irishman called Brendan) and a big bad Casino drug dealer (Alan) come dancing kingpin.

In all he gets the girl but not the one we think.

He gets the one that wants to make a life for herself.

After the film it's the feedback they want and we all fill in forms relating to what we thought was good, bad, best characters etc

Amazingly they gave a list of proposed titles as well and a chance to pick what you think or indeed give them one of your own.

Conclusion.

A very good insight to the workings of the film. I took it for what it was and obviously I wasn't expecting 'rare soul' insight.

You got a general Wigan soundtrack and they tried to be as authentic as possible with the sets as well.

The blurb says Joe is 17 but even that may change to 19 we were told in the discussion afterwards of which me and my mates were included in as well.

The film people wanted it to be as authentic as possible but this is NOT a documentary.

It's not a This England.

It is a youth culture story from a time gone by.

It wants to be a classic culture love story social issues type in the vein of This Is England.

Young girls of 17 admitted they found it hard to understand - they couldn't connect with the life portrayed back then.

For me it put me back to 1974 and dancing to those sounds in The Denton in the West End of Newcastle. Obviously they were the only sounds you had as loads hadn't even been discovered.

To cap it all though on the way out at the end one lad about 20yrs old told me he had never heard anything like those sounds in his life!

Where could he get them?

Well there is no 'record shop' in town but I just said 'google' Northern Soul mate - You'll be on for hours or more likely bloody years!

So that's it - that's how it went and we'll see what happens next.

I enjoyed the whole thing and no we didn't get paid!!

Cheers

Tony

greaaat!!! I am looking forward to it.

[NUFCSOUL]

Right 3 answers in one post -

Headsy -

The Tony you met at Johns a while back when buying records.

Chris-od -

Upstairs at The Denton had a regular weekly 'disco' night - pestered the life out of the DJ to play the 'Northern' stuff - he always played Archie Bell - Here I Go Again the second I got in!

Gumshield - aye the West End never changes.

JumpinJoan -

I'll answer you quite seriously.

As far as I could tell there were no dodgy 'disco beats' in any track. As an original vinyl man myself I was even looking at the bloody labels as you got sight of record boxes and the dj putting on the sounds. The - You Didn't Say A Word - single has a big part to play in the film and you get a good shot of the label. The P and Parkway and all black text with white label looked fine at the glance and angle you got. My mates thought I was flippen mad for wanting such things to be authentic looking! The bags, badges, hair styles etc and clothing of the characters all looked pretty good.

There's loads of humour in it as well and some of it well cheesy but as we know life was so different back then and those of us of a certain age can probably connect with it better than others.

Cheers all

Tony

[Ted Massey]

Right 3 answers in one post -

Headsy -

The Tony you met at Johns a while back when buying records.

Chris-od -

Upstairs at The Denton had a regular weekly 'disco' night - pestered the life out of the DJ to play the 'Northern' stuff - he always played Archie Bell - Here I Go Again the second I got in!

Gumshield - aye the West End never changes.

JumpinJoan -

I'll answer you quite seriously.

As far as I could tell there were no dodgy 'disco beats' in any track. As an original vinyl man myself I was even looking at the bloody labels as you got sight of record boxes and the dj putting on the sounds. The - You Didn't Say A Word - single has a big part to play in the film and you get a good shot of the label. The P and Parkway and all black text with white label looked fine at the glance and angle you got. My mates thought I was flippen mad for wanting such things to be authentic looking! The bags, badges, hair styles etc and clothing of the characters all looked pretty good.

There's loads of humour in it as well and some of it well cheesy but as we know life was so different back then and those of us of a certain age can probably connect with it better than others.

Cheers all

Tony

see what you've done Joan you've made him as anal as you

Edited February 19, 2009 by Tedsoul

[Dave]

Back on topic, the film sounds like the "When Saturday Comes/Brassed Off/Billy Elliot" type film. Love story dodgy regional accents, impoverished people on estates or in back to back terraced housing, bit of politics thrown in, good people, bad person coming good in the end etc etc, but with a background of Soul rather than football/Brass bands or whatever ? Is that a fair comment ?

What, no kestrels?

[SteveM]

What, no kestrels?

Dave, that was a documentary. Its not the same

[Guest mel brat]

...The Snake, Out On The Floor, Tainted Love, Gonna Be A Big Thing, 7 Days Too Long, Breakaway and significantly to the film - You Didn't Say A Word - very significant indeed...

The Yum Yums' "Gonna Be A Big Thing" was not revived until 1976, so wouldn't have been played at Wigan in '74 - and probably not until 1977. Also were "oldies" such as those mentioned a feature of Wigan playlists in '74?? I don't think they were. (There were no Mr. M's or 'Oldies Allnighters' back then were there??)

(I honestly don't mean to be petty or spiteful here, but I just thought I'd mention it for purposes of clarification)

[SteveM]

The Yum Yums' "Gonna Be A Big Thing" was not revived until 1976, so wouldn't have been played at Wigan in '74 - and probably not until 1977. Also were "oldies" such as those mentioned a feature of Wigan playlists in '74?? I don't think they were. (There were no Mr. M's or 'Oldies Allnighters' back then were there??)

(I honestly don't mean to be petty or spiteful here, but I just thought I'd mention it for purposes of clarification)

I've seen that 1976 quote before Mel, (you may have posted it on the Mecca playlist thread) and while my memory isn't good enough to be able to even suggest that you are wrong, I'm positive that I have some Samanthas tapes with the Yum Yums on from late 75. I would have thought John Vincent would have certainly played it at Wigan as it was very popular. Perhaps Ian Dewhirst can remember.

Steve

[jrphelan]

You are right, though they haven't changed the name on IMDB.

"Souled-Out" always struck me as a tacky, cheap pun, and not exactly a title to inspire confidence in the film itself.

Perhaps it was a working title; or there's a change in plan; or an admin error when updating the website and the name is not changed; or they just want to maintain interest. Who knows?

So, what should the film be called?

i too spent a day on set and thought the dancing and from kids who weren't born when the casino was going.

i think it has a true feel for northern - the storyline "boy meets girl" - is just to pull the punters in.

it has been comprehensively researched.

it does need a change of name to reflect its true roots!

[Guest mel brat]

I've seen that 1976 quote before Mel, (you may have posted it on the Mecca playlist thread) and while my memory isn't good enough to be able to even suggest that you are wrong, I'm positive that I have some Samanthas tapes with the Yum Yums on from late 75. I would have thought John Vincent would have certainly played it at Wigan as it was very popular. Perhaps Ian Dewhirst can remember.

Steve

OK I'm well prepared to accept your account. I thought 1976, as it was being played at the Mecca 'Miracles Live' Alldayer in early 1976, though perhaps by Kev Roberts(?).

...but it was an old Cats record anyway, originally!

[SteveM]

OK I'm well prepared to accept your account. I thought 1976, as it was being played at the Mecca 'Miracles Live' Alldayer in early 1976, though perhaps by Kev Roberts(?).

...but it was an old Cats record anyway, originally!

Yes, realised it was a reactivation, well I had it carefully explained to me by someone older and wiser and it was being played in 1976 as well. I have it on the last night at Sams tapes i still have somewhere.

Joan, Joan. You've got them on this

[mischief]

Right this is what happened and what we were told.

18.30pm Wed 16th Feb 2009 Empire Cinemas Screen/Theatre 6 The Gate Newcastle Upon Tyne

Free screening of the not yet finished film - an audience reaction/test preview.

Sound would be patchy and some scenes may have printed dialogue rather than audio as the dubbing was not complete - but a full length movie.

Cheers

Tony

(sorry no point quoting all)

Thanks Tony... at least we now have a clear insight to the film... and i'll look forward to seeing it...

by your write up no weller, duffy etc... as discussed on here before

[Guest mel brat]

Joan, Joan. You've got them on this

I know, I know... it just... well it never ends!

(Sorry!)

[Guest mel brat]

Joan, Joan. You've got them on this

I know, I know... it just... well it never ends!

(Sorry!)

[Guest]

No mate that wasn't the reason for the edit. And yes I do know the difference between Liam Brady & Charlie George.

"Frank & Pat were/are ledges but this fella (LB Pic) was the man and when he wasn't Charlie George was!"

Hope you get to read this before it's deleted.

Did someone tell a joke.

[Guest joeythelips]

The Yum Yums' "Gonna Be A Big Thing" was not revived until 1976, so wouldn't have been played at Wigan in '74 - and probably not until 1977. Also were "oldies" such as those mentioned a feature of Wigan playlists in '74?? I don't think they were. (There were no Mr. M's or 'Oldies Allnighters' back then were there??)

(I honestly don't mean to be petty or spiteful here, but I just thought I'd mention it for purposes of clarification)

Were these tracks played during Casino scenes in the film, or as soundtrack in other scenes? And perhaps we could also finally put to bed the Duffy/Weller issue.. Were they in the film? If so, in what context? If not, maybe Joan will give it a rest??

[Guest BigPaul]

OK I'm well prepared to accept your account. I thought 1976, as it was being played at the Mecca 'Miracles Live' Alldayer in early 1976, though perhaps by Kev Roberts(?).

...but it was an old Cats record anyway, originally!

Defo, Wigan and Sams 1976

Loved it then,still do really

Fookn girly record

[NUFCSOUL]

Were these tracks played during Casino scenes in the film, or as soundtrack in other scenes? And perhaps we could also finally put to bed the Duffy/Weller issue.. Were they in the film? If so, in what context? If not, maybe Joan will give it a rest??

There was not a bit of Weller Duffy.

It is purely 1974 as the blurb states.

Also the tracks are played by a dj when the dancers are in the mocked up casino.

Other instances are when he slots a cassette in to play and when an actual record is played on a record player.

The props buyer has done pretty well in my opinion though someone looking for 100% reality will pick fault with something relating to the set or sounds.

Even 65miliion pound blockbusters slip up - remember the caveman with a watch on or summit in one big budget film!!

Like I said earlier - it is a film set in 1974 - certainly not a documentary and looks like it wants to be a feel good british youth culture urban love story set around Northern Soul, ordinary lives and great music!

Cheers

Tony

[manus]

There was not a bit of Weller Duffy.

It is purely 1974 as the blurb states.

Also the tracks are played by a dj when the dancers are in the mocked up casino.

Other instances are when he slots a cassette in to play and when an actual record is played on a record player.

The props buyer has done pretty well in my opinion though someone looking for 100% reality will pick fault with something relating to the set or sounds.

Even 65miliion pound blockbusters slip up - remember the caveman with a watch on or summit in one big budget film!!

Like I said earlier - it is a film set in 1974 - certainly not a documentary and looks like it wants to be a feel good british youth culture urban love story set around Northern Soul, ordinary lives and great music!

Cheers

Tony

Sounds good Tony - I'm gonna give it a chance anyway and then make up my mind - as long as they don't play Gary Lewis and the Playboys.

Cheers Manus

[Guest joeythelips]

There was not a bit of Weller Duffy.

It is purely 1974 as the blurb states.

Also the tracks are played by a dj when the dancers are in the mocked up casino.

Other instances are when he slots a cassette in to play and when an actual record is played on a record player.

The props buyer has done pretty well in my opinion though someone looking for 100% reality will pick fault with something relating to the set or sounds.

Cheers Tony.. sounds like they do know what they're doing afterall. Can't wait to see it. Pity some people didn't give them the

benefit of the doubt before hurling abuse at them without even seeing it. No wonder they haven't been back on here.

[Madmandy]

Cheers Tony.. sounds like they do know what they're doing afterall. Can't wait to see it. Pity some people didn't give them the

benefit of the doubt before hurling abuse at them without even seeing it. No wonder they haven't been back on here.

Jeff is on facebook

I think hes got quite thick skin (hes from the north east after all .....think of the stick with THAT footy team AND YES I ALSO SUPPORT THEM BEFORE ANYONE SEZ OWT )

but did say he found some of us a tad anal LOLOL

But also said there was a lot of support from folks who wanted it to be just right

[Pete S]

The Yum Yums' "Gonna Be A Big Thing" was not revived until 1976, so wouldn't have been played at Wigan in '74 - and probably not until 1977. Also were "oldies" such as those mentioned a feature of Wigan playlists in '74?? I don't think they were. (There were no Mr. M's or 'Oldies Allnighters' back then were there??)

(I honestly don't mean to be petty or spiteful here, but I just thought I'd mention it for purposes of clarification)

I can certainly confirm it was played in 76 at Wigan, I have it on a couple of tapes, but I;d have to check for earlier plays

[Phild]

dodgy regional accents, impoverished people on estates or in back to back terraced housing, bit of politics thrown in, good people, bad person coming good in the end etc etc, but with a background of Soul rather than football/Brass bands or whatever ? Is that a fair comment ?

Bloomin' Eck. Sounds just like my life story

Phil

Edited February 23, 2009 by phild

[Guest Dave Turner]

Right this is what happened and what we were told.

18.30pm Wed 16th Feb 2009 Empire Cinemas Screen/Theatre 6 The Gate Newcastle Upon Tyne

Free screening of the not yet finished film - an audience reaction/test preview.

Sound would be patchy and some scenes may have printed dialogue rather than audio as the dubbing was not complete - but a full length movie.

The film does not have a finished title.

Audience approx 150 of all ages.

Now here's the hard bit to describe it and try to give MY opinion.

Set in 1974 in Stoke - time of the Birmingham Bombers, hard times, football hooligans etc

Archive footage and the acted out scenes combine to show kipper ties, big collars and grimish urban life/shit job scenarios.

Some good characters are introduced that will interweave throughout the film.

But we are pretty much into a boy fancies girl situation.

First real blast is the Millionaires - And The Rains Came played dominantly as the girl (a hairdresser} is cutting his hair and he is introduced to the music.

I do not intend to tell the whole bloody plot here but it is an urban love story of the time and a very BIG focus on his adventures when he visits The Casino Club.

Lot's of very good dancing and a typical soundtrack.

The Snake, Out On The Floor, Tainted Love, Gonna Be A Big Thing, 7 Days Too Long, Breakaway and significantly to the film - You Didn't Say A Word - very significant indeed.

There are many side issues with the main characters workmate (Irishman called Brendan) and a big bad Casino drug dealer (Alan) come dancing kingpin.

In all he gets the girl but not the one we think.

He gets the one that wants to make a life for herself.

After the film it's the feedback they want and we all fill in forms relating to what we thought was good, bad, best characters etc

Amazingly they gave a list of proposed titles as well and a chance to pick what you think or indeed give them one of your own.

Conclusion.

A very good insight to the workings of the film. I took it for what it was and obviously I wasn't expecting 'rare soul' insight.

You got a general Wigan soundtrack and they tried to be as authentic as possible with the sets as well.

The blurb says Joe is 17 but even that may change to 19 we were told in the discussion afterwards of which me and my mates were included in as well.

The film people wanted it to be as authentic as possible but this is NOT a documentary.

It's not a This England.

It is a youth culture story from a time gone by.

It wants to be a classic culture love story social issues type in the vein of This Is England.

Young girls of 17 admitted they found it hard to understand - they couldn't connect with the life portrayed back then.

For me it put me back to 1974 and dancing to those sounds in The Denton in the West End of Newcastle. Obviously they were the only sounds you had as loads hadn't even been discovered.

To cap it all though on the way out at the end one lad about 20yrs old told me he had never heard anything like those sounds in his life!

Where could he get them?

Well there is no 'record shop' in town but I just said 'google' Northern Soul mate - You'll be on for hours or more likely bloody years!

So that's it - that's how it went and we'll see what happens next.

I enjoyed the whole thing and no we didn't get paid!!

Cheers

Tony

While I have reservations about the film I find the above highlighted line so pleasing. Takes me back to 1971 (15 year old) and my thoughts exactly. Hope its the beginning of a life long love affair.