Guest Mark Holmes Posted February 13, 2009 Share Posted February 13, 2009 A Green & Clear and a Tear The Loneliness of The Balcony Jumping Dancer Splish Splash : The dramatic story of Wigan Bogs Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Not a chance in a million Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 From Russ with love Simon Bond Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Casper Posted February 14, 2009 Author Share Posted February 14, 2009 from the film company ... Hi Peter, The film is progressing well and on schedule. As ever, these things take a lot of time and energy. As the film nears release a new website will be launched with a lot more information, but it's not yet possible to put a date on this. Announcements will be made on www.ipsofactofims.com at the appropriate time. Best, Ed Barratt Assistant Producer good to know all is well i think, despite the pundits and piss takers, .....there is enough downers in this world at the moment without poor and negative "comments" about what may or may not be a good final product, ......I for one hope it will be a great success ! pete n' susan KTF Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sammydee Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 See the SS knitting circle is back ... What were they called again Pete ? I know what I would do if I was the film director... I'd introduce some extra characters & name them the same as you moaners for a laugh...... for instance..the main guy in the film could go & visit his Granny who suffers from Tourets called 'Jumping Joan' ... or he could have a cousin called 'Paul Sadot' who cuts his ear off whilst suffering for his art over his school play production ....Or how about a fat crap dancer in an Arsenal shirt & spencers called 'Simsy' Any others ? ... be kind though...it's meant just a bit of fun. Seriously though...how many times...lets wait till it's finished & been seen before passing judgement ! ... I would imagine 99% of films would fail if film critics judged by film plot & pre release propoganda alone !!! That said... bit of a crap title if it has changed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest aintgotit Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 Footsie ...YEAH!!!!!!.... Or Black and white,s unite Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul-s Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) See the SS knitting circle is back ... What were they called again Pete ? I know what I would do if I was the film director... I'd introduce some extra characters & name them the same as you moaners for a laugh...... for instance..the main guy in the film could go & visit his Granny who suffers from Tourets called 'Jumping Joan' ... or he could have a cousin called 'Paul Sadot' who cuts his ear off whilst suffering for his art over his school play production ....Or how about a fat crap dancer in an Arsenal shirt & spencers called 'Simsy' Any others ? ... be kind though...it's meant just a bit of fun. You forgot the knob head cheap and crap oldies collector 'Bogue' from Worcester. Who's never contributed anything to life except their mundane and droll, opinions and thoughts. They have 'knitted' their life together but dropped quite a few stitches along the way. Sits at home and dreams of one day coming up with an original thought and acting on it. Dreams of living!....film could be based around their life story...TITLE? 'Destined To Become a Loser' or 'I Am Nothing' or 'Manys The Slip Twixt The Cup And The Lip'. Edited February 17, 2009 by paul-s Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark Bicknell Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I saw on television the other day that most films now made with under a ten million budget fail to make any money, most independent films in the true sense of the word fail to gain any major distribution and are often destined at best to go straight to DVD, nothing of course to do with how good the film may or not be but simple fact as the big budget productions stand a lot better chance of finding an audience with over the top mass saturation advertising etc. I really hope this movie is a true masterpiece and does well in commercial terms. Regards - Mark Bicknell. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Edited February 19, 2009 by Simsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Julie the casting director... Hmm best stick to the day job mate.. Swap 'Simsy' and Arsenal for Bogue & Utd and it could be you dude! Oh you dissed Joan btw, hope that works out for you. But you've seen Arsenal live Ian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Edited February 19, 2009 by Simsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Not in a pair of Spencers I haven't! Is that Steve Brookstein in your avatar? I don't know who it is. He came to me at a private do and asked me if I was SteveM and asked for a photo Asked me if I knew Shane of course, and could I get him his autograph (Yes it is Ian ) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 I don't know who it is. He came to me at a private do and asked me if I was SteveM and asked for a photo Asked me if I knew Shane of course, and could I get him his autograph (Yes it is Ian ) And i take it the other person is Ian Levine Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 And i take it the other person is Ian Levine My eyesights not what it was bearsy, but theres only two of us in the picture. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 My eyesights not what it was bearsy, but theres only two of us in the picture. Hi Ian Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Hi Ian Troll ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Edited February 19, 2009 by Simsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) content removed site note you posted a 'joke' the member has replied end of exchange - if wish to reply then do it via pm Edited February 17, 2009 by Bogue Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) Julie the casting director... Hmm best stick to the day job mate.. Swap 'Simsy' and Arsenal for Bogue & Utd and it could be you dude! Oh you dissed Joan btw, hope that works out for you. I can't even get me baggies out of the chair & on to the floor anymore & I didn't 'dis' Joan....I said, if I was the director I would have a laugh & make up a part....I didn't call her a 'Granny with tourets' !! You bloody stirrers ! But you've seen Arsenal live Ian So have I, Utd that is ...... just not since they were successful !....... So that makes me a better supporter......Simsys only been going since Wenger won the league Edited February 17, 2009 by Bogue Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 (edited) content removed site note you posted a 'joke' the member has replied end of exchange - if wish to reply then do it via pm Oh FFS....you really take the biscuit !!!!!!!!! One of your chums again by any chance ???? Talk about double standards...makes you larf don't it ! Sincere apologies to Mike for the above comment last night...It was not warranted, I accept his actions were for the good of the site & nothing else, no one wants to read other peoples arguments ! Too easy to shoot the messenger i guess...& too easy to forget he does it for love not money! Sorry Mike Edited February 18, 2009 by Bogue Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Oh FFS....you really take the biscuit !!!!!!!!! One of your chums again by any chance ???? Talk about double standards...makes you larf don't it ! wind your neck in you wanna start calling me then do it by pm you crack a 'joke' the guy doesn't like it and answers you then answer with insults what do you expect us to do, sit here waiting for more insults to be posted ? took action, end of story - can't deal with that then in future post your 'jokes' in the humour section Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sammydee Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 It's seldom seen bladeforlife and if you look he's got the Brookstein geezer in a headlock and it's off to Bramwell Lane! So back on topic, time to email shimmy marcus or whatever his name is and see if we can't get some official feedback on this crappy film? SOULED OUT 2008 KINGS HALL Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NUFCSOUL Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Just had a call from my mate to say we're on to see the film at some preview thing in Newcastle tonight. So regardless of the title I'm going with an open mind to see no doubt, some social meanderings from the era (the film company blurb obviously mentions 70's hard times, the love angle of the main characters and Wigan Casino - how obvious!) Also there'll be some dancing I suppose and to hear some music to go with said dancing. So I'll turn up, see it and post back here - it will all be a matter of opinion of course!! Cheers Tony (Loved the last 'Wigan' thing I viewed when I drove down to Lowton to catch the Once Upon A Time In Wigan play and hey - owt's better than watching NUFC at the minute - and no comments on that please!!) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Paul-s Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 site note the member posted a 'joke' you have replied end of exchange - if wish to reply then do it via pm Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mischief Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Just had a call from my mate to say we're on to see the film at some preview thing in Newcastle tonight. Well we all look forward to an honest opinion from some one who's seen it... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Citizen P Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 How about "It'll Never Be Over For Me But isn't it about time you tried to listen to something just a little bit different" Long Title,but it could work Tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Or, call it "Casino Royalle" and you could get that little known bloke called Daniel Craig to do an appearance, maybe doing a backflip or two in the Casino itself, and then, after he was leaving the allnighter, some Jap bloke called Oddsod, who he bumped into accidentally, could throw a steel lined Adidas bag at him, (covered in badges for extra cred) and Daniel could escape in his new Aston Martin, having bundled five Casino regulars inside, to give em a lift back to Bury, (as he'd promised them earlier) leaving Oddsod fuming, but heading back inside so he didnt miss "Long after tonight is all over"................. Whatcha think? Good plot.....? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Just had a call from my mate to say we're on to see the film at some preview thing in Newcastle tonight. So regardless of the title I'm going with an open mind to see no doubt, some social meanderings from the era (the film company blurb obviously mentions 70's hard times, the love angle of the main characters and Wigan Casino - how obvious!) Also there'll be some dancing I suppose and to hear some music to go with said dancing. So I'll turn up, see it and post back here - it will all be a matter of opinion of course!! Cheers Tony (Loved the last 'Wigan' thing I viewed when I drove down to Lowton to catch the Once Upon A Time In Wigan play and hey - owt's better than watching NUFC at the minute - and no comments on that please!!) Wow. Didn't know the film was actually finished. Wonder if they've contacted any of the extras they enlisted via this site and asked them to go along and see it? Anybody? Anyway, here's hoping it's good Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mach Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Or, call it "Casino Royalle" and you could get that little known bloke called Daniel Craig to do an appearance, maybe doing a backflip or two in the Casino itself, and then, after he was leaving the allnighter, some Jap bloke called Oddsod, who he bumped into accidentally, could throw a steel lined Adidas bag at him, (covered in badges for extra cred) and Daniel could escape in his new Aston Martin, having bundled five Casino regulars inside, to give em a lift back to Bury, (as he'd promised them earlier) leaving Oddsod fuming, but heading back inside so he didnt miss "Long after tonight is all over"................. Whatcha think? Good plot.....? yep"..i,d go for that .. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tabs Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Funny that. All the effort they put into telling us they were making the film, needing extra's etc. And absolutely zilch when it's been finished. The Strange World of Show Business Wow. Didn't know the film was actually finished. Wonder if they've contacted any of the extras they enlisted via this site and asked them to go along and see it? Anybody? Anyway, here's hoping it's good Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 still not heard back from them about me be the leading role in this shall i take it that i wasnt needed then Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Wow. Didn't know the film was actually finished. Wonder if they've contacted any of the extras they enlisted via this site and asked them to go along and see it? Anybody? Anyway, here's hoping it's good It does warms your heart to see people now feeling positive towards the film.......it neh brings a tear to the eye. still not heard back from them about me be the leading role in this shall i take it that i wasnt needed then I've heard they have you in mind for the sequal Bearsy Titles on a postcard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 It does warms your heart to see people now feeling positive towards the film.......it neh brings a tear to the eye. I do hope it will be a good film. I'm not feeling the least bit positive about it however. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 I do hope it will be a good film. I'm not feeling the least bit positive about it however. Oh goo on Joan...go the whole hog On the other side of the coin.....I hope now it's not crap ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
SteveM Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 So have I, Utd that is ...... just not since they were successful !....... So that makes me a better supporter......Simsys only been going since Wenger won the league Do'h, sorry Bogue, I should have explained that by "live" I meant at the ground itself. Not via a satellite link beamed to Sky Sports 1 (Has Simsy been going as long as that ? ) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bogue Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Do'h, sorry Bogue, I should have explained that by "live" I meant at the ground itself. Not via a satellite link beamed to Sky Sports 1 (Has Simsy been going as long as that ? ) Psssst Don't want to show me age like......but I saw George Best live Or was it on a betamax video ? No, I did actually Steve & Frank McLintock, Pat Rice etc.......bet Simsy don't even remember them ? ....Oh & Ian Ure..... Now that was torturous watching !! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Little-stevie Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 still not heard back from them about me be the leading role in this shall i take it that i wasnt needed then Keep dreaming Bearsy... What would life be without them... If you had a personality and new teeth then you could go far my dear Southern soul brother.. .. Yes i am looking forward to feedback on the film from NUFC... And others too... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark S Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 People outside the scene dont get it sorry to sound negative but the film will be the usual contrived pap . The only decent representation of the scene and that includes documentarys is the Urban Expansions production of Once upon a time in Wigan imo . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Little-stevie Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 People outside the scene dont get it sorry to sound negative but the film will be the usual contrived pap . The only decent representation of the scene and that includes documentarys is the Urban Expansions production of Once upon a time in Wigan imo . People outside the scene don't get what?????? I have many friends outside the scene who get what its about, they just choose not to get involved for whatever reason.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sunnysoul Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 People outside the scene don't get what?????? I have many friends outside the scene who get what its about, they just choose not to get involved for whatever reason.. Same here, well said Stevie Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 People outside the scene don't get what?????? I have many friends outside the scene who get what its about, they just choose not to get involved for whatever reason.. I may be wrong, but I got the impression he was talking about the people making the film. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mark S Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Some people in my experience think that the rare or NS scene is the Snake or Frank Wilson and as such dont appreciate the depth of the scene , I would not like to think that some one like that would produce a film based on it . I compliment you on your freinds my friends dont understand me nor do fellow soulies Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Reg Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) People outside the scene don't get what?????? I have many friends outside the scene who get what its about, they just choose not to get involved for whatever reason.. I don't get it myself to be fair I only went out to buy a packet of fags Next thing you know I was wearing a beer towel and taken out a subscription to Black Echoes. And as for those funny round plastic things in the spare room Edited February 19, 2009 by Reg Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Little-stevie Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I may be wrong, but I got the impression he was talking about the people making the film. Thanks for that Joan and yes Mark S makes a good point.... Sorry for taking it the wrong way There are many clowns who don't really know the circus we perform in... The trouble is there are quite a few different circus acts and tents now but thats for another topic and has been talked to death already Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) Edited February 19, 2009 by Simsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Whereabouts in Salford do you live exactly Julie? Highbury was a 2 min walk from where I used to live in the 60's. Frank & Pat were/are ledges but this fella was the man and when he wasn't Charlie George was! Anyway the ipsofacto website looks a bit sparse, not much mention of the film. Sure there was a work in progress link? Ahh Charlie George. He used to call me gun'nah. Happy days. I used to like Arsey back then, in the pre Arsey whinger days. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
NUFCSOUL Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Right this is what happened and what we were told. 18.30pm Wed 16th Feb 2009 Empire Cinemas Screen/Theatre 6 The Gate Newcastle Upon Tyne Free screening of the not yet finished film - an audience reaction/test preview. Sound would be patchy and some scenes may have printed dialogue rather than audio as the dubbing was not complete - but a full length movie. The film does not have a finished title. Audience approx 150 of all ages. Now here's the hard bit to describe it and try to give MY opinion. Set in 1974 in Stoke - time of the Birmingham Bombers, hard times, football hooligans etc Archive footage and the acted out scenes combine to show kipper ties, big collars and grimish urban life/shit job scenarios. Some good characters are introduced that will interweave throughout the film. But we are pretty much into a boy fancies girl situation. First real blast is the Millionaires - And The Rains Came played dominantly as the girl (a hairdresser} is cutting his hair and he is introduced to the music. I do not intend to tell the whole bloody plot here but it is an urban love story of the time and a very BIG focus on his adventures when he visits The Casino Club. Lot's of very good dancing and a typical soundtrack. The Snake, Out On The Floor, Tainted Love, Gonna Be A Big Thing, 7 Days Too Long, Breakaway and significantly to the film - You Didn't Say A Word - very significant indeed. There are many side issues with the main characters workmate (Irishman called Brendan) and a big bad Casino drug dealer (Alan) come dancing kingpin. In all he gets the girl but not the one we think. He gets the one that wants to make a life for herself. After the film it's the feedback they want and we all fill in forms relating to what we thought was good, bad, best characters etc Amazingly they gave a list of proposed titles as well and a chance to pick what you think or indeed give them one of your own. Conclusion. A very good insight to the workings of the film. I took it for what it was and obviously I wasn't expecting 'rare soul' insight. You got a general Wigan soundtrack and they tried to be as authentic as possible with the sets as well. The blurb says Joe is 17 but even that may change to 19 we were told in the discussion afterwards of which me and my mates were included in as well. The film people wanted it to be as authentic as possible but this is NOT a documentary. It's not a This England. It is a youth culture story from a time gone by. It wants to be a classic culture love story social issues type in the vein of This Is England. Young girls of 17 admitted they found it hard to understand - they couldn't connect with the life portrayed back then. For me it put me back to 1974 and dancing to those sounds in The Denton in the West End of Newcastle. Obviously they were the only sounds you had as loads hadn't even been discovered. To cap it all though on the way out at the end one lad about 20yrs old told me he had never heard anything like those sounds in his life! Where could he get them? Well there is no 'record shop' in town but I just said 'google' Northern Soul mate - You'll be on for hours or more likely bloody years! So that's it - that's how it went and we'll see what happens next. I enjoyed the whole thing and no we didn't get paid!! Cheers Tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest john s Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Well that all sounds pretty positive. Good news! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Don't jump down my throat people - I've got to ask Do they use the original recordings in the film and not cover versions? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ted Massey Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Don't jump down my throat people - I've got to ask Do they use the original recordings in the film and not cover versions? bloody hell Joan Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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