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[Simsy]

What's the difference?

One to ponder on this. I don't travel up north as much as I'd like to, or as much as I used to (Age, time, family etc). But is there a difference between a typical Northern set (ie played in the North) as opposed to that played at a Southern do? Same dj's travel the length and breadth of the country to do their sets right? So it should be the same. I can't help thinking it's not though somehow.

Couple of things made me think this over a period of time. As I know some Southerner's who think that the South is cutting edge in some respects, in terms of new sounds broken etc. But hang on I thought, this must be hooey, as it's NORTHERN soul we're into right!?

I did see some (quite lengthy) clips on the NCSC website the other day, of the Manchester nighter - main room etc and It seemed I knew almost every track. Whereas perhaps, in my soft southern existence do's wise at least, it's common for twenty minutes or so, (less and more) sometimes to go by without having heard of a single number. Why is that? Does Geography play a part or what?

I know I can't use the website thing as a basis for this query, but it was just that small point coupled with those Southern rural myths over time, that lead me to think - I wonder what views others might have on the subject?

FOOT NOTE:

1. Patriot first an foremost, love every inch of England's green and pleasant land.

2. Without Northern Northern Soul, there wouldn't be any Northern Soul.

"LESS AVE YA"

Edited May 13, 2005 by Ian Sims

[Guest Soultown andy]

Cant think why you would think south cutting edge when lifeline and soultown niters are both in the north.Lifeline head and shoulders above any progressive nite in the country,and no other niter gives as much chance to up and comeing djs as soultown.Cis niters are very good but would have to be regarded as main stream oldies allniters really,steam allniter also in the north are very good on the upfront side as well.

[Guest Stuart T]

Steel helmets on please everyone!

South used to appear to be more up front, don't know whether it was completely true, not the case now.

Edited May 11, 2005 by Stuart T

[Simsy]

Cant think why you would think south cutting edge

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To be fair Andy I didn't say that. I said I know some who hold that view, which may be quite wrong in light of some of the good points you raised.

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Was thinking the same thing Stuart LOL

[Guest Soultown andy]

Was,nt havin a go ian just givin my opinion,good topic though mate this should be interesting to say the least.

[Guest]

What's the difference?

One to ponder on this.  I don't travel up north as much as I'd like to, or as much as I used to (Age, time, family etc). But is there a difference between a typical Northern set (ie played in the North) as opposed to that played at a Southern do? Same dj's travel the length and breadth of the country to do their sets right?  So it should be the same.  I can't help thinking it's not though somehow.

Couple of things made me think this over a period of time.  As I know some Southerner's who think that the South is cutting edge in some respects, in terms of new sounds broken etc.  But hang on I thought, this must be hooey, as it's NORTHERN soul we're into right!?

FOOT NOTE:

1. Patriot first an foremost, love every inch of England's green and pleasant land.

2. Without Northern Northern Soul, there wouldn't be any Northern Soul.

"LESS AVE YA"

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We/i would be listening to "pop-corn" the non thinking mans n/soul.

[Guest]

Pre Lifeline and other newer events up North I would say that Scenesville was pretty much an upfront venue, dome started out that way but lacked towards the middle/end of it's life span. Still got the 100 club don't foget down south but we dont have any other up front do's that I know off otherwise

[Simsy]

Still got the 100 club don't forget

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Indeed, it is no small part that the 100 Club keeps my lazy old bones is the south so much

[Guest]

Pre Lifeline and other newer events up North I would say that Scenesville was pretty much an upfront venue, dome started out that way but lacked towards the middle/end of it's life span.  Still got the 100 club don't foget down south  but we dont have any other up front do's that I know off otherwise

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What about the Snug!Janine are we not goodenough.....

[Dave]

To be fair Andy I didn't say that.  I said I know some who hold that view, which may be quite wrong in light of some of the good points you raised.

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So you were just trolling then really, were you?

[Simsy]

So you were just trolling then really, were you?  

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Explain trolling.

[Dave]

Explain trolling.

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Really?

Ok, go on then....think of it as casting a bait and waiting to see which fish bite.

[Guest Stuart T]

Explain trolling.

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Fishing. With a long line in deep water.

[Guest]

Really?

Ok, go on then....think of it as casting a bait and waiting to see which fish bite.

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[Guest]

Fishing.  With a long line in deep water.

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Up North Stuart deep water fishing is done with Annette.

[Gary]

Hate to throw this one in but what about the Midlands?

[Guest]

Fishing.  With a long line in deep water.

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Sorry

Edited May 11, 2005 by BLADEFORLIFE

[Simsy]

Really?

Ok, go on then....think of it as casting a bait and waiting to see which fish bite.

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Okay, I like it, I like it. Original statement still true though in that this was a discussion between southern soulies.

16.58 leave work, steam home - back on line by 17.23

[Dave]

Hate to throw this one in but what about the Midlands?

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Apart from No More Doggin and TBI......

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[Guest Stuart T]

Pre Lifeline and other newer events up North I would say that Scenesville was pretty much an upfront venue, dome started out that way but lacked towards the middle/end of it's life span.  Still got the 100 club don't foget down south  but we dont have any other up front do's that I know off otherwise

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Thats because you don't ever come down one bloody club with some DJs who like to play some different sounds! :angry: Yes, maybe we do all smell a bit, but that is pure manliness (apart from Gene), get your arse down Solid Hit Soul on 18 June, Gene's birthday, day after mine, we were almost twins (apart from not being born in the same year or with the same mother).

We have some lovely newish sounds to play but acknowledge the need to entertain the dancers as well, so try to keep a balance of sounds on the playlist. Grrrrr!

I almost feel like putting up my last playlist, except I haven't a clue what I played.

Scenesville isn't a was is it?

[Guest]

What about the Snug!Janine are we not goodenough.....

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I personally think that the snug is the best chill out/ come down venue going, but as it's not a dance club it really doesnt come into this discussion........ deffo one of my fave places to go to at the moment though

[Dave]

Okay, I like it, I like it.  Original statement still true though in that this was a discussion between southern soulies.

16.58 leave work, steam home - back on line by 17.23 

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Catchya later.

I've got a bit of work to catch up on, so I may get behind.....be interesting to see whats been landed when I get back

[Guest]

Okay, I like it, I like it.  Original statement still true though in that this was a discussion between southern soulies.16.58 leave work, steam home - back on line by 17.23 

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Ian, isn't it 'Southern softies' ?

Only kidding all you pearly kings and queens ( )

Good topic though.

Steve

[Guest]

Hate to throw this one in but what about the Midlands?

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Where's that then?

Midlands is great, but not aware of any rare soul clubs advertised there, and if there are and as im first to say so we will claim them as part of the Souths

[Guest]

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Somebody please!explain upfront what dose it mean? as i do not know,for me there are only good ones & bad ones

[Guest Stuart T]

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Up North Stuart deep water fishing is done with Annette. 

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Oh very drole. PMSL.

[Guest ShaneH]

In my experience at the 100 club and Valatone, there is a lot more younger soul fans than up north. You also get less of the Wigan fancy dress down south too with a lot more guys and gals into the 60's image.

Shane

[Guest Stuart T]

Somebody please!explain upfront what dose it mean? as i do not know,for me there are only good ones & bad ones

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I think "upfront" means "please don't keep coming up to the decks and asking for some more bloody oldies, not tonight, people didn't stop finding records when Wigan closed, okay?".

Come to think of it, SHS isn't upfront because we also also play oldies, just try to balance it out a bit more than one oldie after another.

[Guest]

I think "upfront" means "please don't keep coming up to the decks and asking for some more bloody oldies, not tonight, people didn't stop finding records when Wigan closed, okay?". 

Come to think of it, SHS isn't upfront because we also also play oldies, just try to balance it out a bit more than one oldie after another.

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[Guest Soultown andy]

So shane down south you have younger people dressing up as people from 40yrs ago,opposed to older people dressing up as people from 30yrs ago up north,and that means what exactly.

[Guest]

Sorry dont agree wiht you shane, but at the end of the day it doesnt matter what people wear, it's about the music, although hoops are out dont ya know!

[Gary]

Where's that then?   

Midlands is great, but not aware of any rare soul clubs advertised there, and if there are and as im first to say so we will claim them as part of the Souths 

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Like it

[Guest]

So shane down south you have younger people dressing up as people from 40yrs ago,opposed to older people dressing up as people from 30yrs ago up north,and that means what exactly.

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Still in trouble Shane.

Agreed with your earlier post Andy. To my regret I only ever got to the last Soultown at Sheridans, brilliant night. The point about the playlists there is that the oldies played are DIFFERENT. ie, some thought goes into it, not the same old same old.

Steve

[Guest Stuart T]

So shane down south you have younger people dressing up as people from 40yrs ago,opposed to older people dressing up as people from 30yrs ago up north,and that means what exactly.

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Fair point but at least that mod 60s thing is now widely acknowledged as a timeless classic look, but only if done well. Whereas the Wigan vest and bags thing, errm...isn't.

[Guest Soultown andy]

New venue for soultown lifeline announced very soon blade,and its in the north of all places[sorry back on thread now]

[Little-stevie]

What thread was you reading Ian on NCSC to come up with the playlists????I think it will be harder and harder to be cutting edge and still provide quality and get enough people through the dor and still keep everyone happy .."A promoters job is not a happy one"..Good topic...There are so many nights now to hear many different styles from Lincoln to North Wales and Portsmouth to Aberdeen..I don' think the north /south thing is what it was a few years back..We have inside toilets up here now and listening to smooth mid tempo southern soul,well some of us...The tradional northern soul nights are still up here but so are the more progressive ones too..Did the Southern sound mean London/south coast and then the rest???Birmingham/Bristol/Cambridge etc are very south were all these put in the northern stable??...Good topic indeed...Over the years it was the tradional northern towns for me and London,aint too sure what was going on elsewhere....The sound of Kent in the 80s brought a lot of us together,that was the sound we all first started listening to...up-tempo,deep soul ballads,stompers etc,it was all just soul to us,nothing to do with north or south...I did notice a big difference when i started going to the 100 club..It was deeper more mid tempo than most northern club nights, and sound that i really took to but not others as much...Kent and Stafford really paved the way for us in the 80s and it was a breath of fresh air that kept us on the soul scene...Could go on and on about this thing i love But i will take a break...

[Dave]

In my experience at the 100 club and Valatone, there is a lot more younger soul fans than up north. You also get less of the Wigan fancy dress down south too with a lot more guys and gals into the 60's image.

Shane

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Are you trolling as well because most of that's bollox!

[Guest Soultown andy]

Very much doubt you would find the bags and vest brigade at lifeline, soultown,steam,cool off etc stuart,i think that brigade tend to stick to the larger oldies events stuart.

[Dave]

New venue for soultown lifeline announced very soon blade,and its in the north of all places[sorry back on thread now]

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PLEASE tell us it's not too far North Andy!!!!

[Guest]

great post stevie

[Guest]

PLEASE tell us it's not too far North Andy!!!!

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You and your three wives will be there wherever it is Dave.

[Simsy]

As Richard Madeley would say "okay we're back" Let's ave a look at some of these posts then ...

[Guest Soultown andy]

New venue nearer to you dave,now heres one to think about on the topic of north v south,southern nites main guests usually from the north but in the north very rarely are they from the south,with maybe one or two exceptions.

Edited May 11, 2005 by Soultown andy

[Guest]

New venue for soultown lifeline announced very soon blade,and its in the north of all places[sorry back on thread now]

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PLEASE tell us it's not too far North Andy!!!!

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Thats what I am hopeing Dave, Sheridans is a good location for the likes of us, Manchester is just too far for me to go as regularly as I would like

[Simsy]

Hate to throw this one in but what about the Midlands?

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If you are north of Watfod Gap mate, that's still north. Southern ruling

[Dave]

You and your three wives will be there wherever it is Dave. 

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Not three times a month if it's in Manchester, for example, Steve

(Strangely I think one of the three shares a birthday with the guy Stuart was talking about )

[Dave]

New venue nearer to you dave,now heres one to think about on the topic of north v south,southern nites main guests usually from the north but in the north very rarely are they from the south,with maybe one or two exceptions.

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Great news mate

Get an event on every week!

Edited May 11, 2005 by Dave

[Guest]

If you are north of Watfod Gap mate, that's still north.  Southern ruling

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When I worked in New Cross I went to some of the Millwall games. Had to laugh when they sang' Dirty Northern B*st*rds' at the Shrewsbury team.

[Guest Stuart T]

Very much doubt you would find the bags and vest brigade at lifeline, soultown,steam,cool off etc stuart,i think that brigade tend to stick to the larger oldies events stuart.

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Agree thats probably absolutely true. Personally I think we should all have to wear regional dress. then we could know who not to talk to. Can you lot spin in your clogs?

Being from the home cunties I shall, of course, be resplendent in a blazer, comfortable slacks and some suede shoes.