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what i also hate is people who say things like " if you don't like this you don't like soul music " about some wishy-washy crossover tune with as much balls as a convent ....i'm perfectly capable of deciding what i like .

lump along with that the holier than though attitude of " i like all era's me" , well bully for you now off ya pop and polish yer halo somewhere else

Yes,we are all individuals :yes: .

"Hate's" a bit strong tho',i just tend to mildly disagree.

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what i also hate is people who say things like " if you don't like this you don't like soul music " about some wishy-washy crossover tune with as much balls as a convent ....i'm perfectly capable of deciding what i like .

lump along with that the holier than though attitude of " i like all era's me" , well bully for you now off ya pop and polish yer halo somewhere else

On the other hand, I'm not too chuffed that some folk think that those who "like all eras" are being (or even trying to be) holier than thou!

I genuinely apreciate really good Soul music from all eras... and I too am perfectly capable of deciding what I like - with or without the halo!

I actually prefer Soul music from the 60's... but consider myself fortunate to be able to hear some good in all eras.

What's not to like about that?

Now, will someone pass me the polish!

:yes:

Sean

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I'll tell you what I hate most about this scene, although I'm not too sure wether it is the scene's fault or just the fact that being involved within a scene brings about certain reactions from people that are socially unavoidable.

Anyway.

A lad I know, that will be known to some of you, who got into the Northern scene late...who, since his inception.........

.....That's what i can't stand, the opinion; "lads"...."late onto the northern scene" ...."since his Inception"..

The slightly older Generation who think because they went to, Wigan, were the founders of the "Northern Scene" and anyone younger than them are not, attitude, because we were here first.

.....What about the enthusiasts who went to the Wheel and The Torch ( for example ), do they belittle you because you weren't there. Because, there are probably a lot more years between them, and the LAD you talk of Barry....

Come from behind your cloak...WHOM is this lad, let him defend himself!!! :wicked:

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I actually prefer Soul music from the 60's... but consider myself fortunate to be able to hear some good in all eras.

Sean

that rules you out of the original quote , you never said it like those who don't are somehow inferior

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If i like the tune and enjoy dancing to it, i dont care how rare it is, or what it cost to buy, or who the dj is. The only thing that is important to me is how the music makes me feel. the only thing i dont like is poor etiquette on the dance floor cheers

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If i like the tune and enjoy dancing to it, i dont care how rare it is, or what it cost to buy, or who the dj is. The only thing that is important to me is how the music makes me feel. the only thing i dont like is poor etiquette on the dance floor cheers

Well said,and thats exactly how it should be. The music, expression through dance and the way it makes you feel is all that matters.

But thats just in my most humble opinion.

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I never liked the music much, or the trousers for that matter. I mainly got into the scene to improve my UK geography, which was, quite frankly, appalling.

So I spent 25 years learning the ropes - could navigate from the M1 to the Wilton Ballroom whilst blindfolded, guided a minibus of locals to the Shotts allniter without a wrong turn, got to the Ritz without ever ending up in Canal Street, parked on a sixpence within 100 yards of the 100 Club, could tell you which motorway services had the best coffee and toilets. You name it, Logic Woman could get you there.

Then some bastard invents SatNav...

I know what you mean Theresa, I'm the same with the dishwasher; still like to do a good bowl of pots by hand.

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I know what you mean Theresa, I'm the same with the dishwasher; still like to do a good bowl of pots by hand.

What I hate most about the scene today is dishwashers and SatNavs. Especially when you need the latter to find your way to the former....

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What i hate most is the stupid cow who rings my house every sat nite at 3, 4, 5 oclock in the mornin tryin to frighten women and children [always when im out]and that brave soldier who sends me the threatening text messages [for the last 3 years] every now and then,no doubt it was this very brave crew who set me up with the drug squad and armed response team at prestatyn,all anonymous of course.Apart from that, and to be honest none of it bothers me personaly as what comes round goes round [thats a promise],theres not much to hate as i only ever go to the venues and keep the company i want to.

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People who tell me what to like

People who tell me 70's disco is a natural progression of northern soul

People who would sell their children and their friends for a Dj spot....actually this reminds me of the types of people who appeared on 'the word' and licked a grannys armpit just to get on telly.....but worse!!!!

Friends djin for friends and the friends returning the favour...same do different venue.

People who post on here saying do's are fantastic just so those people attend theirs

Patronising w**kers

'Till Late' on flyers

The scene reflects life so there is good and bad I have met some of the nicest people in the world through the soul scene and also some of the lowest scum bags......hey thats life. Avoid the bad, vote with your feet and remember...Its all about the tunes..

Helen

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djs who feel the need to swear over the mic, djs who think buying £1000 tunes makes them someone,djs who dont go anywhere apart from were there djing and dont turn up until their spot. ego djs and small minded punters who just want the same old same old

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Soul Forum's that ask silly question's like, "What do you most hate about the scene", surely that's a perfect cue for all the negativity to come gushing forth, as proven. :)

Take care, be safe & remember,"If you've nowt nice to say, then say nowt",

Spot. :lol:

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People who tell me 70's disco is a natural progression of northern soul

Helen

:lol: I Concur with that view Helen. But do you realise you are now, in there eyes, an ignorant blinkered Dinosaur.... :)

How very dare you :lol::lol:

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People who pigeonhole music because it was made in a certain year or judge music by it's rarity above it's quality.

Good Soul music is just that regardless of wether it was made in the early 1960's or last week & also regardless of wether it cost a fiver or five grand.

Give this man a medal.

He summed up EVERYTHING that has been wrong with the Northern Soul Scene in two sentences.

Bravo !!!!!!!

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funny thing is the people that take the piss and do all the dodgy things you've all posted about are the ones best supported kr comes to mind,but there are plenty more especially at a local level ......thats people for ya say one thing and do something else.

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People who continually go behind your back spreading lies and rumours when they don't have the balls or the maturity to say it to your face.

I've never met so many small minded people in my life as I have on this scene, some folks just have nothing better to do, why don't they just get on with enjoying the music.

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funny thing is the people that take the piss and do all the dodgy things you've all posted about are the ones best supported kr comes to mind,but there are plenty more especially at a local level ......thats people for ya say one thing and do something else.

Hi,

I know you go back a long way, but why are you so prejudiced againt local soul nights? In fact under your avatar it says something like no local shite for me.

What if you can't get to the Burnley all nighter, or some other big, somehow non-local do? Do you mean I can't go the Burnley all nighter, cos to me living in Burnley, it will be local shite?

Do you not recall the local nights that ran from Sunday to Thursday almost everywhere?

The weekend was for the Wheel, The Torch, Up the Junction, Cats, Casino, Samanthas, Mecca, Yate, Stafford etc, but the lifeblood of the scene was people going to these local nights and then developing their knowledge and hitting the big stage.

Dave Moore put a list on here of all the soul nights held in Burnley over the years, and it came to over 25, and he missed some out.

Dickie Pinks, a tiny working mens club where around 12 of us turned up every month for a year, had Karl, and John Atkinson playing their hearts out, but that was no local soul night shite, it was class.

Just interested as to what you mean by local shite?

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Dickie Pinks, a tiny working mens club where around 12 of us turned up every month for a year, had Karl, and John Atkinson playing their hearts out, but that was no local soul night shite, it was class.

Christ! Is that place still open. We did dos there 30 years ago and it was falling down then! :ohmy:

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HERES MY LITTLE GRIPE LIST

DONT LIKE PEOPLE THAT JUDGE YOU BY YOUR MUSICAL PREFERENCES,THIS SOUL SNOP BOLLOCKS PISSES ME OFF,IVE COLLECTED 30 ODD YEARS AND NEVER PUSHED MY VIEWS ON ANYONE,JUST LOVE ALL THE GENRES.

I DONT LIKE PEOPLES PRECONCIEVED SNOBBERY AGAIN -THE SCENE IS A MERE FRAGMENT OF THE WIDER WORLD IE -GET UP GO TO WORK ,SUPPORT FAMILY ,LOVE PEOPLE LOSE PEOPLE ETC ETC.ITS ONLY F--KING MUSIC WHY TAKE IT SO SERIOUSLY ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

I DONT LIKE FRANK WILSON OR OLDIES AND THAT DOES NOT MEAN I WOULD NOT HELP A MAN /WOMEN ON THE STREET WHO LIKES THIS RECORD BUT HAS BEEN MUGGED ETC,I THINK HUMAN DECENCY SHOULD COME BEFORE ALL,SURELY OUR 7TS INDOCTRINATION AT A TIME OF SOCIAL CHANGE SHOULD MEAN THAT WE CARE AND DONT JUDGE.

WHAT I REALLY DONT LIKE IS DJS BEEN GIVEN GODLIKE STATUS AND SOUL SINGERS NOT BEEN ABLE TO EAT OR AFFORD THE RENT -THERE IS SOMETHING NOT GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I DONT LIKE WEEKENDERS COS THERE TAKE ME AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE I LOVE.

I DONT LIKE THE GEAR SIDE OF THE SCENE BUT CANNOT SHAKE IT EITHER,AS A GOOD PERSON SAID FROM THE NORTH EAST "ITS F--KED US ALL AND TOOK US ALL TO HELL AND BACK!

I DONT LIKE PRESSINGS,BOOTS,AND WANKERS MAKING MONEY OFF THE BACK OF REAL SOUL SINGERS WHO HAVE SUFFERED REAL HARDSHIP WITHOUT A MEANS TO REDRESS THE BALANCE -I DONT LIKE EBAY RIP OFFS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN NAMED.

I DONT LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE JEALOUS OF RECORD COLECTIONS AND I DONT AGREE THAT COLLECTORS ARE NOT GOOD DJS[bUTCH AND ANDY DYSON COLLECT RARE SOUL RECORDS WHERE THE F--K DID THAT NOTION COME FROM.

NUFF SAID -JUST MY VIEW AND I AINT DEFENDING IT.

BAZ A

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Dickie Pinks, a tiny working mens club where around 12 of us turned up every month for a year, had Karl, and John Atkinson playing their hearts out, but that was no local soul night shite, it was class.

Just interested as to what you mean by local shite?

Hi Brian. I had some good times there back in the mid 90s.

John and Carl put on a surprice party for my 40th there.

Yes there was only a few of us but the music more than made up for it. :ohmy:

Dickie Pinks was only one of lots of cutting edge so called local dos around N.E. Lancs over the years. (some busy, some not)

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what i also hate is people who say things like " if you don't like this you don't like soul music " about some wishy-washy crossover tune with as much balls as a convent ....i'm perfectly capable of deciding what i like .

lump along with that the holier than though attitude of " i like all era's me" , well bully for you now off ya pop and polish yer halo somewhere else

Why does someone having a broad taste in Soul Music make them necessarily sanctimonious?

Personally, I like all eras myself but I dont look down on people who only like 6ts or only Modern. Why would I? Its just musical preference and not indicative of their entire personality. Its very shallow to judge people for their musical preferences and whilst you accuse people with a broad taste of sanctimony you are actually guilt of it yourself.

I've got mates who hate Soul but I like them for other reasons. There is a lot more to individuals than their taste of music.

What I most hate about the Soul Scene is some of the shite people talk. The invented "rules" and the snobbery and elitist attitude of some folk.

I consider myself a Soul fan and dont get wrapped up too often in boring scene politics as quite frankly there are much more interesting things happening in the real world.

When I do go out to a nighter or event it is to dance, hear tunes that pick me up, have the crack with nice people but not be stuck in a corner intellectualising about the "scene" and judging people for their personal tastes in music.

I just ignore any sh1t and dont get involved in it. Its boring and life is too short.

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HERES MY LITTLE GRIPE LIST

DONT LIKE PEOPLE THAT JUDGE YOU BY YOUR MUSICAL PREFERENCES,THIS SOUL SNOP BOLLOCKS PISSES ME OFF,IVE COLLECTED 30 ODD YEARS AND NEVER PUSHED MY VIEWS ON ANYONE,JUST LOVE ALL THE GENRES.

I DONT LIKE PEOPLES PRECONCIEVED SNOBBERY AGAIN -THE SCENE IS A MERE FRAGMENT OF THE WIDER WORLD IE -GET UP GO TO WORK ,SUPPORT FAMILY ,LOVE PEOPLE LOSE PEOPLE ETC ETC.ITS ONLY F--KING MUSIC WHY TAKE IT SO SERIOUSLY ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

I DONT LIKE FRANK WILSON OR OLDIES AND THAT DOES NOT MEAN I WOULD NOT HELP A MAN /WOMEN ON THE STREET WHO LIKES THIS RECORD BUT HAS BEEN MUGGED ETC,I THINK HUMAN DECENCY SHOULD COME BEFORE ALL,SURELY OUR 7TS INDOCTRINATION AT A TIME OF SOCIAL CHANGE SHOULD MEAN THAT WE CARE AND DONT JUDGE.

WHAT I REALLY DONT LIKE IS DJS BEEN GIVEN GODLIKE STATUS AND SOUL SINGERS NOT BEEN ABLE TO EAT OR AFFORD THE RENT -THERE IS SOMETHING NOT GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I DONT LIKE WEEKENDERS COS THERE TAKE ME AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE I LOVE.

I DONT LIKE THE GEAR SIDE OF THE SCENE BUT CANNOT SHAKE IT EITHER,AS A GOOD PERSON SAID FROM THE NORTH EAST "ITS F--KED US ALL AND TOOK US ALL TO HELL AND BACK!

I DONT LIKE PRESSINGS,BOOTS,AND WANKERS MAKING MONEY OFF THE BACK OF REAL SOUL SINGERS WHO HAVE SUFFERED REAL HARDSHIP WITHOUT A MEANS TO REDRESS THE BALANCE -I DONT LIKE EBAY RIP OFFS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN NAMED.

I DONT LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE JEALOUS OF RECORD COLECTIONS AND I DONT AGREE THAT COLLECTORS ARE NOT GOOD DJS[bUTCH AND ANDY DYSON COLLECT RARE SOUL RECORDS WHERE THE F--K DID THAT NOTION COME FROM.

NUFF SAID -JUST MY VIEW AND I AINT DEFENDING IT.

BAZ A

:thumbsup:

Spot on mate

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(/quote) I consider myself a Soul fan and dont get wrapped up too often in boring scene politics as quite frankly there are much more interesting things happening in the real world.

When I do go out to a nighter or event it is to dance, hear tunes that pick me up, have the crack with nice people but not be stuck in a corner intellectualising about the "scene" and judging people for their personal tastes in music.

I just ignore any sh1t and dont get involved in it. Its boring and life is too short.

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(/quote) I consider myself a Soul fan and dont get wrapped up too often in boring scene politics as quite frankly there are much more interesting things happening in the real world.

When I do go out to a nighter or event it is to dance, hear tunes that pick me up, have the crack with nice people but not be stuck in a corner intellectualising about the "scene" and judging people for their personal tastes in music.

I just ignore any sh1t and dont get involved in it. Its boring and life is too short.

Spot on Andy, life 'IS' too short and this scene is too good to ruin it with ridiculous rules and politics.

The only thing i don't like about this scene is that i live too far away from it and attending a soul event literally takes a weekend of my time, costs a bloody fortune and consists of a real "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" type of journey so when i get there, i just enjoy myself and appreciate the fact that i'm actually there soaking in all this music and atmosphere.

You don't realise how lucky you really are!

Hi Paul,

Even though I live in the UK the hub of the scene, I cant afford to go out every weekend as I live in Brighton and there's not much going on here regularly. Even if there was I only like to go out every couple of months as that way I really cherish the night outand the music. By limiting going out I think one doesnt take for granted the wonderful aspects of the scene, which is mainly hearing wonderful music.

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People who pigeonhole music because it was made in a certain year or judge music by it's rarity above it's quality.

Good Soul music is just that regardless of wether it was made in the early 1960's or last week & also regardless of wether it cost a fiver or five grand.

100% spot on. :lol:

Ste.

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HERES MY LITTLE GRIPE LIST

DONT LIKE PEOPLE THAT JUDGE YOU BY YOUR MUSICAL PREFERENCES,THIS SOUL SNOP BOLLOCKS PISSES ME OFF,IVE COLLECTED 30 ODD YEARS AND NEVER PUSHED MY VIEWS ON ANYONE,JUST LOVE ALL THE GENRES.

I DONT LIKE PEOPLES PRECONCIEVED SNOBBERY AGAIN -THE SCENE IS A MERE FRAGMENT OF THE WIDER WORLD IE -GET UP GO TO WORK ,SUPPORT FAMILY ,LOVE PEOPLE LOSE PEOPLE ETC ETC.ITS ONLY F--KING MUSIC WHY TAKE IT SO SERIOUSLY ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS.

I DONT LIKE FRANK WILSON OR OLDIES AND THAT DOES NOT MEAN I WOULD NOT HELP A MAN /WOMEN ON THE STREET WHO LIKES THIS RECORD BUT HAS BEEN MUGGED ETC,I THINK HUMAN DECENCY SHOULD COME BEFORE ALL,SURELY OUR 7TS INDOCTRINATION AT A TIME OF SOCIAL CHANGE SHOULD MEAN THAT WE CARE AND DONT JUDGE.

WHAT I REALLY DONT LIKE IS DJS BEEN GIVEN GODLIKE STATUS AND SOUL SINGERS NOT BEEN ABLE TO EAT OR AFFORD THE RENT -THERE IS SOMETHING NOT GOOD ABOUT THAT.

I DONT LIKE WEEKENDERS COS THERE TAKE ME AWAY FROM THE PEOPLE I LOVE.

I DONT LIKE THE GEAR SIDE OF THE SCENE BUT CANNOT SHAKE IT EITHER,AS A GOOD PERSON SAID FROM THE NORTH EAST "ITS F--KED US ALL AND TOOK US ALL TO HELL AND BACK!

I DONT LIKE PRESSINGS,BOOTS,AND WANKERS MAKING MONEY OFF THE BACK OF REAL SOUL SINGERS WHO HAVE SUFFERED REAL HARDSHIP WITHOUT A MEANS TO REDRESS THE BALANCE -I DONT LIKE EBAY RIP OFFS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN NAMED.

I DONT LIKE PEOPLE WHO ARE JEALOUS OF RECORD COLECTIONS AND I DONT AGREE THAT COLLECTORS ARE NOT GOOD DJS[bUTCH AND ANDY DYSON COLLECT RARE SOUL RECORDS WHERE THE F--K DID THAT NOTION COME FROM.

NUFF SAID -JUST MY VIEW AND I AINT DEFENDING IT.

BAZ A

Absolutely spot on BAZ :lol:

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What i hate most is the stupid cow who rings my house every sat nite at 3, 4, 5 oclock in the mornin tryin to frighten women and children [always when im out]

And I bet they'd never phone when you're there. I've had something like this happen to me a long time ago too.

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