ImberBoy Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Ever given much thought to doing an Allnighter? Yes we have all done them in the past but there seams a reluctance for one reason or another. Why would you want to go to an Allnighter in the first place? The answer to this will always be open for debate but I am convinced that the best music will be only every heard on the nighters. I think that for many, Northernsoul has now become nothing more than a nostalgia trip and it is here where a leap of faith is needed. It must be appreciated that before all of the safe plays where known and loved they where all unknowns broken at the Nighters and if this analogy stands it there fore shows that at one time we where all swamped with unknowns? So why does the idea of a night listening to unknown or unfamiliar tracks sound so abhorrent to most? Where did it go wrong? I theorize that it is the fault of the CD. I look at my own CD collection, based on when Northernsoul first was put onto this format, there are a plethora of fillers and bottom of the barrel sounds that although new they did not capture very many peoples imaginations indeed I blame this period of our Northernsoul history for diluting the quality stream. Newies or progressive sounds had an image problem. I truly believe that we now have a renaissance of quality soul; we have some excellent venues now with superb tracks being discovered, dusted off or borrowed from other genres that make for an exiting time, kinda reminds me of being a young man every week being blown away by the music that became part of my DNA! Now if you buy into any of this you may want to start thinking about attending a nighter? Firstly we need to appreciate that some Nighters will replicate what the average soul night is doing and vice versa, but you should now hopefully be on a quest to sample the music and vibe first hand so you will have to choose your nighter carefully. More on this later. "I couldn't last an Allnighter, I'd fall asleep", not much I can say on this except yes you can and stop being a wimp! Life is not a dress rehearsal, this is it! We are all pretty much into the autumn of our lives and I FOR ONE AM NOT GOING QUIETLY! The best thing to do is plan you're few days leading up to a nighter with decent nights kip and a positive mental attitude, the mind is stronger than any body. Get some decent food down your neck and bulk up a bit; you can always burn it off on the dance floor. Plan your journey and car and drive share, if you are traveling more than a couple of hours make sure you can grab a bit of food, chocolate rocks, and coffee! Make sure you have a change of dry warm clothing for the journey home. Drink plenty of water and avoid the booze! Here are a few tips so that you can enjoy the evening. Remember that the tune you are dancing or listening to for the first time is probably the first time for most people as well so don't be afraid of anything new. Get on the dance floor, it matters not whether you have two left feet no one stares or cares! Talk to people, you will be surprised how easy it is to make friends and if you get saddled with a bore like me then just get up for a dance and don't come back, easy. If you like a track, ask what it is then get back onto Soul Source and ask for a file, chances are there will be some one who has it. It's a fantastic time for Northernsoul; make an effort this year to do some thing different, you won't be disappointed.
Guest Stormin Si Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Ever given much thought to doing an Allnighter? Yes we have all done them in the past but there seams a reluctance for one reason or another. Why would you want to go to an Allnighter in the first place? The answer to this will always be open for debate but I am convinced that the best music will be only every heard on the nighters. I think that for many, Northernsoul has now become nothing more than a nostalgia trip and it is here where a leap of faith is needed. It must be appreciated that before all of the safe plays where known and loved they where all unknowns broken at the Nighters and if this analogy stands it there fore shows that at one time we where all swamped with unknowns? So why does the idea of a night listening to unknown or unfamiliar tracks sound so abhorrent to most? Where did it go wrong? I theorize that it is the fault of the CD. I look at my own CD collection, based on when Northernsoul first was put onto this format, there are a plethora of fillers and bottom of the barrel sounds that although new they did not capture very many peoples imaginations indeed I blame this period of our Northernsoul history for diluting the quality stream. Newies or progressive sounds had an image problem. I truly believe that we now have a renaissance of quality soul; we have some excellent venues now with superb tracks being discovered, dusted off or borrowed from other genres that make for an exiting time, kinda reminds me of being a young man every week being blown away by the music that became part of my DNA! Now if you buy into any of this you may want to start thinking about attending a nighter? Firstly we need to appreciate that some Nighters will replicate what the average soul night is doing and vice versa, but you should now hopefully be on a quest to sample the music and vibe first hand so you will have to choose your nighter carefully. More on this later. "I couldn't last an Allnighter, I'd fall asleep", not much I can say on this except yes you can and stop being a wimp! Life is not a dress rehearsal, this is it! We are all pretty much into the autumn of our lives and I FOR ONE AM NOT GOING QUIETLY! The best thing to do is plan you're few days leading up to a nighter with decent nights kip and a positive mental attitude, the mind is stronger than any body. Get some decent food down your neck and bulk up a bit; you can always burn it off on the dance floor. Plan your journey and car and drive share, if you are traveling more than a couple of hours make sure you can grab a bit of food, chocolate rocks, and coffee! Make sure you have a change of dry warm clothing for the journey home. Drink plenty of water and avoid the booze! Here are a few tips so that you can enjoy the evening. Remember that the tune you are dancing or listening to for the first time is probably the first time for most people as well so don't be afraid of anything new. Get on the dance floor, it matters not whether you have two left feet no one stares or cares! Talk to people, you will be surprised how easy it is to make friends and if you get saddled with a bore like me then just get up for a dance and don't come back, easy. If you like a track, ask what it is then get back onto Soul Source and ask for a file, chances are there will be some one who has it. It's a fantastic time for Northernsoul; make an effort this year to do some thing different, you won't be disappointed. Great post Imberboy, Interesting bit about the CD's... Something I'd never thought of... The niters are what it is all about for me. I can kind of understand why people might want to stay in, well no I can't, but you know, thats up to them. Edited January 29, 2009 by Simon McMaster
Guest Bearsy Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Ever given much thought to doing an Allnighter? Yes we have all done them in the past but there seams a reluctance for one reason or another. Why would you want to go to an Allnighter in the first place? The answer to this will always be open for debate but I am convinced that the best music will be only every heard on the nighters. I think that for many, Northernsoul has now become nothing more than a nostalgia trip and it is here where a leap of faith is needed. It must be appreciated that before all of the safe plays where known and loved they where all unknowns broken at the Nighters and if this analogy stands it there fore shows that at one time we where all swamped with unknowns? So why does the idea of a night listening to unknown or unfamiliar tracks sound so abhorrent to most? Where did it go wrong? I theorize that it is the fault of the CD. I look at my own CD collection, based on when Northernsoul first was put onto this format, there are a plethora of fillers and bottom of the barrel sounds that although new they did not capture very many peoples imaginations indeed I blame this period of our Northernsoul history for diluting the quality stream. Newies or progressive sounds had an image problem. I truly believe that we now have a renaissance of quality soul; we have some excellent venues now with superb tracks being discovered, dusted off or borrowed from other genres that make for an exiting time, kinda reminds me of being a young man every week being blown away by the music that became part of my DNA! Now if you buy into any of this you may want to start thinking about attending a nighter? Firstly we need to appreciate that some Nighters will replicate what the average soul night is doing and vice versa, but you should now hopefully be on a quest to sample the music and vibe first hand so you will have to choose your nighter carefully. More on this later. "I couldn't last an Allnighter, I'd fall asleep", not much I can say on this except yes you can and stop being a wimp! Life is not a dress rehearsal, this is it! We are all pretty much into the autumn of our lives and I FOR ONE AM NOT GOING QUIETLY! The best thing to do is plan you're few days leading up to a nighter with decent nights kip and a positive mental attitude, the mind is stronger than any body. Get some decent food down your neck and bulk up a bit; you can always burn it off on the dance floor. Plan your journey and car and drive share, if you are traveling more than a couple of hours make sure you can grab a bit of food, chocolate rocks, and coffee! Make sure you have a change of dry warm clothing for the journey home. Drink plenty of water and avoid the booze! Here are a few tips so that you can enjoy the evening. Remember that the tune you are dancing or listening to for the first time is probably the first time for most people as well so don't be afraid of anything new. Get on the dance floor, it matters not whether you have two left feet no one stares or cares! Talk to people, you will be surprised how easy it is to make friends and if you get saddled with a bore like me then just get up for a dance and don't come back, easy. If you like a track, ask what it is then get back onto Soul Source and ask for a file, chances are there will be some one who has it. It's a fantastic time for Northernsoul; make an effort this year to do some thing different, you won't be disappointed.
Reg Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 The Dummies guide to Northern Soul allniters....classic! For some reason now i've got the theme from Rocky in my head, lol (Sounds like hard work to me...and what's all that about no booze!!!!)
ImberBoy Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 Simon I will be at Barnsley on Friday, why? Well Barnsley is a great example of what is happening at the moment, excitement and fun! The age range at Barnsley is from 18 to lord knows how old and from the beard strokers to the fist time visitor, Barnsley is a good snap shot of every thing that's good about our scene. The Allnighter scene is possibly more vibrant now than it has ever been with a positive out look towards music and a sense of pride and responsibility amongst the DJ's. I like to think that the days of playing to a fellow train spotter is over, no one who is any one, is playing safe and yet the danceable quality seams to be in a joyful abundance. We have some mega venues to choose from now; Middleton has set the pace there is some thing happening at the moment on the Allnighter Scene. Reg "I pity the fool" Rocky Hard work? Digging a ditch or eating one of our lasses meat pies is hard work, staying up is the new early night Reg! Try it dude, I promise it won't kill ya and the warm fluffy feeling of being bolloxed with a smile on yer grid takes some beating I promise. The booze thing? You can still have a drink but to be honest no one wants do see Uncle Knobhead stumbling about whilst trying to remember the words to The Snake.
Pete Eccles Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Ever given much thought to doing an Allnighter? Yes we have all done them in the past but there seams a reluctance for one reason or another. Why would you want to go to an Allnighter in the first place? The answer to this will always be open for debate but I am convinced that the best music will be only every heard on the nighters. I think that for many, Northernsoul has now become nothing more than a nostalgia trip and it is here where a leap of faith is needed. It must be appreciated that before all of the safe plays where known and loved they where all unknowns broken at the Nighters and if this analogy stands it there fore shows that at one time we where all swamped with unknowns? So why does the idea of a night listening to unknown or unfamiliar tracks sound so abhorrent to most? Where did it go wrong? I theorize that it is the fault of the CD. I look at my own CD collection, based on when Northernsoul first was put onto this format, there are a plethora of fillers and bottom of the barrel sounds that although new they did not capture very many peoples imaginations indeed I blame this period of our Northernsoul history for diluting the quality stream. Newies or progressive sounds had an image problem. I truly believe that we now have a renaissance of quality soul; we have some excellent venues now with superb tracks being discovered, dusted off or borrowed from other genres that make for an exiting time, kinda reminds me of being a young man every week being blown away by the music that became part of my DNA! Now if you buy into any of this you may want to start thinking about attending a nighter? Firstly we need to appreciate that some Nighters will replicate what the average soul night is doing and vice versa, but you should now hopefully be on a quest to sample the music and vibe first hand so you will have to choose your nighter carefully. More on this later. "I couldn't last an Allnighter, I'd fall asleep", not much I can say on this except yes you can and stop being a wimp! Life is not a dress rehearsal, this is it! We are all pretty much into the autumn of our lives and I FOR ONE AM NOT GOING QUIETLY! The best thing to do is plan you're few days leading up to a nighter with decent nights kip and a positive mental attitude, the mind is stronger than any body. Get some decent food down your neck and bulk up a bit; you can always burn it off on the dance floor. Plan your journey and car and drive share, if you are traveling more than a couple of hours make sure you can grab a bit of food, chocolate rocks, and coffee! Make sure you have a change of dry warm clothing for the journey home. Drink plenty of water and avoid the booze! Here are a few tips so that you can enjoy the evening. Remember that the tune you are dancing or listening to for the first time is probably the first time for most people as well so don't be afraid of anything new. Get on the dance floor, it matters not whether you have two left feet no one stares or cares! Talk to people, you will be surprised how easy it is to make friends and if you get saddled with a bore like me then just get up for a dance and don't come back, easy. If you like a track, ask what it is then get back onto Soul Source and ask for a file, chances are there will be some one who has it. It's a fantastic time for Northernsoul; make an effort this year to do some thing different, you won't be disappointed. Simon just who is this aimed at exactly? Edited January 29, 2009 by pete60
ImberBoy Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 Pete I didn't really take "aim" I just want to portray what's happening at the moment up and down the M62 corridor. As a fair few of you know I have not been a stranger to allnighters and I am not a born again, nowt wrong with that I hasten to add. I just think that it will be a crying shame people aren't getting to the nighters for preconceived reasons based on past disappointments, like I said there is a real skip in the step of allnighters at the moment. For some time now most nighters where either serving up tired oldies or tracks from Northernsoul floor clearers volume 4. We now seam to have it right, better, more palatable yet without loosing the plot or loosing our roots. We have always had nighters that are a bit naff, we still have, but we also have nighters that are magic. I want people to know there is a good wind of change to attitudes, music policy and in general a better nighter experience. ">
Citizen P Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Ever given much thought to doing an Allnighter? Yes we have all done them in the past but there seams a reluctance for one reason or another. Why would you want to go to an Allnighter in the first place? The answer to this will always be open for debate but I am convinced that the best music will be only every heard on the nighters. I think that for many, Northernsoul has now become nothing more than a nostalgia trip and it is here where a leap of faith is needed. It must be appreciated that before all of the safe plays where known and loved they where all unknowns broken at the Nighters and if this analogy stands it there fore shows that at one time we where all swamped with unknowns? So why does the idea of a night listening to unknown or unfamiliar tracks sound so abhorrent to most? Where did it go wrong? I theorize that it is the fault of the CD. I look at my own CD collection, based on when Northernsoul first was put onto this format, there are a plethora of fillers and bottom of the barrel sounds that although new they did not capture very many peoples imaginations indeed I blame this period of our Northernsoul history for diluting the quality stream. Newies or progressive sounds had an image problem. I truly believe that we now have a renaissance of quality soul; we have some excellent venues now with superb tracks being discovered, dusted off or borrowed from other genres that make for an exiting time, kinda reminds me of being a young man every week being blown away by the music that became part of my DNA! Now if you buy into any of this you may want to start thinking about attending a nighter? Firstly we need to appreciate that some Nighters will replicate what the average soul night is doing and vice versa, but you should now hopefully be on a quest to sample the music and vibe first hand so you will have to choose your nighter carefully. More on this later. "I couldn't last an Allnighter, I'd fall asleep", not much I can say on this except yes you can and stop being a wimp! Life is not a dress rehearsal, this is it! We are all pretty much into the autumn of our lives and I FOR ONE AM NOT GOING QUIETLY! The best thing to do is plan you're few days leading up to a nighter with decent nights kip and a positive mental attitude, the mind is stronger than any body. Get some decent food down your neck and bulk up a bit; you can always burn it off on the dance floor. Plan your journey and car and drive share, if you are traveling more than a couple of hours make sure you can grab a bit of food, chocolate rocks, and coffee! Make sure you have a change of dry warm clothing for the journey home. Drink plenty of water and avoid the booze! Here are a few tips so that you can enjoy the evening. Remember that the tune you are dancing or listening to for the first time is probably the first time for most people as well so don't be afraid of anything new. Get on the dance floor, it matters not whether you have two left feet no one stares or cares! Talk to people, you will be surprised how easy it is to make friends and if you get saddled with a bore like me then just get up for a dance and don't come back, easy. If you like a track, ask what it is then get back onto Soul Source and ask for a file, chances are there will be some one who has it. It's a fantastic time for Northernsoul; make an effort this year to do some thing different, you won't be disappointed. I have heard the criticism of CD's before and think ther could well be a case to answer. However, there are Soul Nights that do try to keep off the beaten track and keep the music fresh, Morley Carr for one, and if I may be so bold, if you take alook at what's been played at our little do at The Junction you will see very little of the STANDARD Northern script. Any road up, there's a chance I'll be at Barnsley meself, who should I avoid ATB Tony
Reg Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) okay, I will try my best to tug off my carpet slippers and try one of those there allneeters Simon, ha ha Best regards Uncle Knobhead Edited January 29, 2009 by Reg
ImberBoy Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 Any road up, there's a chance I'll be at Barnsley meself, who should I avoid ATB Tony
Citizen P Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 Any road up, there's a chance I'll be at Barnsley meself, who should I avoid ATB Tony Any fooker in shorts That's easy for you to say, There's about 15 of the B*stards in your avatar. Tony
billb Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 I theorize that it is the fault of the CD. I look at my own CD collection, based on when Northernsoul first was put onto this format, there are a plethora of fillers and bottom of the barrel sounds that although new they did not capture very many peoples imaginations indeed I blame this period of our Northernsoul history for diluting the quality stream. Why's that? Totally disagree with / can't understand the criticism of CD's. I do go to the odd nighter and have bought compilations at them. Compilation stuff has been going on for years like those Grapevine albums that were being discussed today on another thread. EMI put a series of Stateside albums out in the late 80's, allsorts of stuff from the Minit, UA, Imperial and Sue labels. Inferno's Out On The Floor Tonight, Soul Time and the Right Track. Charley's Rare Soul Uncovered series (3 albums I think?). Horace's put a couple of albums of the Shrine label and one of Dore. How else would we have got to hear that stuff, we can't all afford a full set of those? Soul Supply's This is Northern Soul series of double albums (16 of them I think?) Those great albums that Kent put out in the 80's & 90's (97 of them) and then the CD's they put out with unreleased tunes on. Most of this stuff found its way onto CD (or tape) so that I could listen to it in the car or at work, I just don't understand the criticism of CD's? I don't own / can't afford a massive collection of 7's, having had a mortgage and family, so I've bought quite a few of these compilation Albums and CD's over the years. I think that CD's have contributed to the scene rather than set it back. Just an opinion.
ImberBoy Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 Billb Not sure if you have done your argument any favors here mate? The first of the Northernsoul CD's reeked of a rushed attempt to compile for the sake of compiling and yes I am aware of the paint rapidly drying behind me as I enter the corner, I still think that there where none of the more rare tracks that have found themselves in the hearts and minds of the Northernsoul scene. Yup there where a few but I still maintain that they did nothing to endear the scene nor did they fill any gaps, I bet a pound to a pinch of shat that given the opportunity the track listings would look some what different in hind sight? Big calls by me yes I know and impossible to prove, I don't want to turn this into an anti early CD thread I want to try to convince the Northernsoul fraternity that it's safe to go back into the water as far as Nighters are concerned. It matters not why people don't or stopped going to the allnighters, the point I am trying to make is that there is a real change in the way the Allnighter experience is delivered. Take Middleton for example, this arguably is at the zenith of the scene and yet it does not suffer from any clique, or musical snobbery that has turned to silliness. Long gone are the seedy Smokey dens that did little to endear them selves to the casual or nervous visitor. We get an open, clear and friendly fresh approach, maybe it's an age thing maybe it's that most of the old naughty boys are now middle aged pie eaters like me?
ImberBoy Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 Oh and did any one play the clip I put up?
good angel Posted January 29, 2009 Posted January 29, 2009 I dont think you have to wait for a record that you know,its the beat that makes you move your feet I like any Soul Music,as long as its DANCE MUSIC,whether its R&B or modern of today,and not this slow stuff(Teddy Bear music,quote Billy Wiz) Kev
Citizen P Posted January 30, 2009 Posted January 30, 2009 Why's that? Totally disagree with / can't understand the criticism of CD's. I do go to the odd nighter and have bought compilations at them. Compilation stuff has been going on for years like those Grapevine albums that were being discussed today on another thread. EMI put a series of Stateside albums out in the late 80's, allsorts of stuff from the Minit, UA, Imperial and Sue labels. Inferno's Out On The Floor Tonight, Soul Time and the Right Track. Charley's Rare Soul Uncovered series (3 albums I think?). Horace's put a couple of albums of the Shrine label and one of Dore. How else would we have got to hear that stuff, we can't all afford a full set of those? Soul Supply's This is Northern Soul series of double albums (16 of them I think?) Those great albums that Kent put out in the 80's & 90's (97 of them) and then the CD's they put out with unreleased tunes on. Most of this stuff found its way onto CD (or tape) so that I could listen to it in the car or at work, I just don't understand the criticism of CD's? I don't own / can't afford a massive collection of 7's, having had a mortgage and family, so I've bought quite a few of these compilation Albums and CD's over the years. I think that CD's have contributed to the scene rather than set it back. Just an opinion. Billy m'boy, I think it all depends on how CD's are used. If you buy Stan Russwinleys Greatest Floor Walloppers-stick in the car player and leave it in for 6 months you aint gonna hear owt new. If however, as you'll know, CD's are put together by knowledgable, passionate soul lovers your play, listen and wants lists increase exponentially. Take it easy Bud ATB Tony
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