Soulboy69 Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Hello good people of Soul Source, hope you can help me with the following issue. I have 2 copies of the James Brown l.p. "Hell". The labels are different on each one so i need to know which one is original (or are they both original)? Both are on the Red Polydor label. First one (bought from a reputable dealer) has James Brown's face on label wearing a hat with "James Brown Godfather Of Soul" written underneath it. Second one (bought on eBay) has the familiar James Brown face on label without hat and "Godfather Of Soul" slogan. Any info greatly appreciated!
Toodarnsoulful Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Hello good people of Soul Source, hope you can help me with the following issue. I have 2 copies of the James Brown l.p. "Hell". The labels are different on each one so i need to know which one is original (or are they both original)? Both are on the Red Polydor label. First one (bought from a reputable dealer) has James Brown's face on label wearing a hat with "James Brown Godfather Of Soul" written underneath it. Second one (bought on eBay) has the familiar James Brown face on label without hat and "Godfather Of Soul" slogan. Any info greatly appreciated! NOt sure about this one sorry cant be of help, but if you like this you'll love the Lp only track on the King Lp 'I cant stand myself when you touch me' the track is called 'why did you take your love away from me' ......Tuuunnee!! oh and on the 7ts tip 'you took my heart' on the Get up off a that thing Lp....
Dave Fleming Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Hello good people of Soul Source, hope you can help me with the following issue. I have 2 copies of the James Brown l.p. "Hell". The labels are different on each one so i need to know which one is original (or are they both original)? Both are on the Red Polydor label. First one (bought from a reputable dealer) has James Brown's face on label wearing a hat with "James Brown Godfather Of Soul" written underneath it. Second one (bought on eBay) has the familiar James Brown face on label without hat and "Godfather Of Soul" slogan. Any info greatly appreciated! Well the one i have is like the one you brought off ebay,so at a guess this would be the Orig,unless one is UK issue and the other one a US issue?,i`ve not seen the reissue of this did they do one?. Dave f.............
Soulboy69 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Posted January 27, 2009 Thanks for responses, almost certain there is a Re-issue, both lp's that i own have the same serial numbers on sleeve and labels and both were manufactured in the U.S.A. but labels are very different. Thanks for the tips on the other James Brown tracks Liam, i'll check 'em out!
Lloydee Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Just taken a look at my copy and mine has the James Brown head with "A James Brown Production. SOUL I" Great album and I'm not sure if this info even helps
Guest OSCARP Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Not sure about the albums you are referring to, but usually the re-issues have bar codes on if they are legal, ( maybe not if they are boots ) Just taken a look at my copy and mine has the James Brown head with "A James Brown Production. SOUL I" Great album and I'm not sure if this info even helps
Liljimmycrank Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Thanks for responses, almost certain there is a Re-issue, both lp's that i own have the same serial numbers on sleeve and labels and both were manufactured in the U.S.A. but labels are very different. Thanks for the tips on the other James Brown tracks Liam, i'll check 'em out! got to agree with Mr Quinn, that track is treeeeeeeeeeeemendous!!! However, be careful as the album has been booted.
Philippe Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Just taken a look at my copy and mine has the James Brown head with "A James Brown Production. SOUL I" Great album and I'm not sure if this info even helps I have the same label, I think it's the original US pressing.
Dave Fleming Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 I have the same label, I think it's the original US pressing. Yes this is the same as mine,so i guess we can say this is the Orig. Dave f...........
Bully Boy Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Yes this is the same as mine,so i guess we can say this is the Orig. Dave f........... Exactly same as mine also Dave..... GREAT ALBUM! Best Bully
Little-stevie Posted January 27, 2009 Posted January 27, 2009 Thanks for responses, almost certain there is a Re-issue, both lp's that i own have the same serial numbers on sleeve and labels and both were manufactured in the U.S.A. but labels are very different. Thanks for the tips on the other James Brown tracks Liam, i'll check 'em out! Hi Paul Could have a spare of the James Brown, I cant stand myself when you touch me, will check and bring it to Rugby if i have..
Soulboy69 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) Hi Paul Could have a spare of the James Brown, I cant stand myself when you touch me, will check and bring it to Rugby if i have.. Cheers Steve, hope everything is well with you. The l.p. that was scanned is the same as the copy that i bought on eBay but the other copy i have has James wearing a hat and "The Godfather Of Soul" written underneath it. I will "try" and put up a scan later on but have never done this so any tips would be appreciated Edited January 28, 2009 by soulboy69
Philippe Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) The l.p. that was scanned is the same as the copy that i bought on eBay but the other copy i have has James wearing a hat and "The Godfather Of Soul" written underneath it. I found a 45 with this label : : Edited January 28, 2009 by Philippe
Guest Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 NOt sure about this one sorry cant be of help, but if you like this you'll love the Lp only track on the King Lp 'I cant stand myself when you touch me' the track is called 'why did you take your love away from me' ......Tuuunnee!! oh and on the 7ts tip 'you took my heart' on the Get up off a that thing Lp....
Soulboy69 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 Wow, that is good, damn good!!!! Below is scans of both labels, hope this sheds some light.
Val (Chunky) Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 uuummm not sure which came first looking at those scans do you think this might be original?
Guest Adrian Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Wow, that is good, damn good!!!! Love the little Barry White impression.
Toodarnsoulful Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Wow, that is good, damn good!!!! Below is scans of both labels, hope this sheds some light. Glad you enjoyed my brother first played me this a few years back if i remember correctly and i was straight on it... fookin beautiful track... Liam
Dave Fleming Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Below is scans of both labels, hope this sheds some light. Slightly confusing,this is a different lay out to mine,mine has a "sterling" matrix stamp in the run out, has any of your`s got this stamp? also the one without the hat,some of the label looks like it`s been cut and pasted?,you can see lines around the info?,and it looks like his head has been cut around and stuck on there,looks a bit dodgy. Dave f..............
Soulboy69 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Posted January 28, 2009 Cheers Dave, i noticed the 'cut and paste' type label but i have a James Brown 45 that looks like that as well. Just to add to the confusion, both lp's have that 'sterling' stamp that you mentioned in the run out grooves.
Dave Fleming Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Cheers Dave, i noticed the 'cut and paste' type label but i have a James Brown 45 that looks like that as well. Just to add to the confusion, both lp's have that 'sterling' stamp that you mentioned in the run out grooves. i give up,it`s all to confusing keep them both Dave f..............
Philippe Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 do you think this might be original? biggrin.gif Attached thumbnail(s) Reduced 84% Attached Image Yes Val, from Thailand.
MarkWhiteley Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 Slightly confusing,this is a different lay out to mine,mine has a "sterling" matrix stamp in the run out, has any of your`s got this stamp? also the one without the hat,some of the label looks like it`s been cut and pasted?,you can see lines around the info?,and it looks like his head has been cut around and stuck on there,looks a bit dodgy. Dave f.............. More than slightly confusing, the none hat scans show two differant labels............. Note the numbering, extra bracketed pd referance no's in there! Oh bugger! M.
Stuart Bower Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) Hello good people of Soul Source, hope you can help me with the following issue. I have 2 copies of the James Brown l.p. "Hell". The labels are different on each one so i need to know which one is original (or are they both original)? Both are on the Red Polydor label. First one (bought from a reputable dealer) has James Brown's face on label wearing a hat with "James Brown Godfather Of Soul" written underneath it. Second one (bought on eBay) has the familiar James Brown face on label without hat and "Godfather Of Soul" slogan. Any info greatly appreciated! The UK original issue was on Polydor 2659 036. Gate fold cover which opened to reveal a full spread poster of the man himself. Issued in 1974. Hope this helps. Edited January 28, 2009 by Stuart Bower
MarkWhiteley Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 The UK original issue was on Polydor 2659 036. Gate fold cover which opened to reveal a full spread poster of the man himself. Issued in 1974. Hope this helps. And does he wear a hat on the label Stuart
Stuart Bower Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) And does he wear a hat on the label Stuart NO! But he DOES wear.......a MOUSTACHE!!! But not on the label. Only on the album sleeve. Just a hatless afro on the label. "It`s hell down here and we`ve got to make a change" Edited January 29, 2009 by Stuart Bower
Soul Shrews Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 The UK original issue was on Polydor 2659 036. Gate fold cover which opened to reveal a full spread poster of the man himself. Issued in 1974. Hope this helps. So does the Dutch original issue Stuart. Its actually the US sleeve (the cloggy one anyway) cos it has the American address printed on the inner gatefold. And does he wear a hat on the label Stuart No hat on the Dutch label or picture of Mr Brown either with or without moustache Have seen the picture of him on quite a few US 45s of his and his productions from the 70s Cheers Paul PS Great LP........................................... "Papa don't take no Mess" !!!
Stuart Bower Posted January 28, 2009 Posted January 28, 2009 PS Great LP........................................... "Papa don't take no Mess" !!! Good thing he doesn`t--At 13mins 51secs this is one long track..... And I still love his fourth(?) version of "LOST SOMEONE" from this album though...
Soulboy69 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Posted January 29, 2009 Thanks for all your input everybody, i think i'll conclude that both of them are originals unless someone can tell me otherwise. Absolutely love "Lost Someone" from this l.p. (main reason that i bought it!) and absolutely love the gatefold picture of the man himself, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuunky!!!
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