'raven' Label

[Soul-slider]

Not sure if this label 'Raven' is related in any way to the other label with Carolina groups The Soundmasters & The Lost Soul on?? Don't suppose these 'Prophets' are the one's on Smash etc..

I also wonder if the 'Pee Wee' on this 45 is the one on 'Flagg' with Chuck & Huey???

This Raven release is obviously very obscure and is a nice mid-tempo northern/garage offering, anyone know anything about it?

I can't do sound samples btw.

PEE WEE & THE PROPHETS - I'M SO TIRED (RAVEN OOS - 1) (matrix reads: G&C - 110)

Edited January 16, 2009 by Soul-Slider

[Gene-r]

Not sure if this label 'Raven' is related in any way to the other label with Carolina groups The Soundmasters & The Lost Soul on?? Don't suppose these 'Prophets' are the one's on Smash etc..

I also wonder if the 'Pee Wee' on this 45 is the one on 'Flagg' with Chuck & Huey???

This Raven release is obviously very obscure and is a nice mid-tempo northern/garage offering, anyone know anything about it?

I can't do sound samples btw.

PEE WEE & THE PROPHETS - I'M SO TIRED (RAVEN OOS - 1) (matrix reads: G&C - 110)

Bit of a teaser this one. The Lost Soul's Raven label has serial numbers prefixed HOS (standing for House of Sounds), but I notice this label's prefix is OOS - not a million miles from each other. The HOS Raven label is out of Danville, Virginia, but haven't a clue with this one. One look at the design of label makes me think Chicago for some reason.

[Soul-slider]

Bit of a teaser this one. The Lost Soul's Raven label has serial numbers prefixed HOS (standing for House of Sounds), but I notice this label's prefix is OOS - not a million miles from each other. The HOS Raven label is out of Danville, Virginia, but haven't a clue with this one. One look at the design of label makes me think Chicago for some reason.

Thanks for that Gene, interesting about the HOS & OOS.

Was the PEE WEE, CHUCK & HUEY on FLAGG (Beside Myself) from Chicago??

[Pete S]

Thanks for that Gene, interesting about the HOS & OOS.

Was the PEE WEE, CHUCK & HUEY on FLAGG (Beside Myself) from Chicago??

No, Los Angeles, besides, Pee Wee would have been about one year old when that raven record was recorded

[boba]

Not sure if this label 'Raven' is related in any way to the other label with Carolina groups The Soundmasters & The Lost Soul on?? Don't suppose these 'Prophets' are the one's on Smash etc..

I also wonder if the 'Pee Wee' on this 45 is the one on 'Flagg' with Chuck & Huey???

This Raven release is obviously very obscure and is a nice mid-tempo northern/garage offering, anyone know anything about it?

I can't do sound samples btw.

PEE WEE & THE PROPHETS - I'M SO TIRED (RAVEN OOS - 1) (matrix reads: G&C - 110)

i think this group is also from virginia but I'm not 100% sure, they have at least one other record that is rock on another label (it's a blue label i'm not remembering what it is right now).

[Soul-slider]

No, Los Angeles, besides, Pee Wee would have been about one year old when that raven record was recorded

Is the record on Flagg a recent thing then Pete? I had no idea, really.

[Soul-slider]

i think this group is also from virginia but I'm not 100% sure, they have at least one other record that is rock on another label (it's a blue label i'm not remembering what it is right now).

So, it's maybe pointing to the fact that this is related to the other Raven 45's we all know then. Hope so, as I'm in the process of trying to get them all....cash permitting!

[George G]

i think this group is also from virginia but I'm not 100% sure, they have at least one other record that is rock on another label (it's a blue label i'm not remembering what it is right now).

WEST Virginia, actually. I can't remember where Pee Wee and band were from but I seem to recall somewhere along the I77 corridor. You're right about the blue label, Centennial is the name.

I think there are something like 5-6 records on the Raven label and 3 on Centennial. This is NOT connected to the Virginia HOS/Raven label. None of them are rare, compared to other small label non-distributed records from that area. Maybe it's just that a lot of people from this area moved to Ohio and brought their records with them....

BTW, the G&C is a reference to the Pittsburgh pressing plant. Same plant pressed other 45s (Larry Allen I think).

- George

Edited January 16, 2009 by George G

[Soul-slider]

WEST Virginia, actually. I can't remember where Pee Wee and band were from but I seem to recall somewhere along the I77 corridor. You're right about the blue label, Centennial is the name.

I think there are something like 5-6 records on the Raven label and 3 on Centennial. This is NOT connected to the Virginia HOS/Raven label. None of them are rare, compared to other small label non-distributed records from that area. Maybe it's just that a lot of people from this area moved to Ohio and brought their records with them....

BTW, the G&C is a reference to the Pittsburgh pressing plant. Same plant pressed other 45s (Larry Allen I think).

- George

Thanks for the info George, much appreciated. It might not be as rare as others but this particular 45 is a good one if you like garagey type soul! (IMO)

Edited January 16, 2009 by Soul-Slider

[George G]

Thanks for the info George, much appreciated. It might not be as rare as others but this particular 45 is a good one if you like garagey type soul! (IMO)

You're welcome, I have both Pee Wee 45s and like 'em too. You should check out the other 45s on Centennial by the Magnums and New Mason Dixons. Not really dancers - hard to describe but have a somewhat similar mix of garage, soul, and early R&B.

- George