Ted Massey Posted May 4, 2005 Posted May 4, 2005 ANY IDEA OF THE FINAL PRICE? THANKS link Worth every penny i remember Johnny Beggs playing it at the Central in cannock 1988/1990 It was going for £150 even then
Guest Byrney Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 What an achingly horrible record link Personally I love it! Tad boring if we all had the same taste. Still fighting the temptation to start collecting again. Byrney
Tony Smith Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 Worth every penny i remember Johnny Beggs playing it at the Central in cannock 1988/1990 It was going for £150 even then link Fabulous record, horrible price!
Guest vinylvixen Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 Horrible record, rediculous price link If y'all want to hear it in the flesh, Val Palmer will be playing it at the free Rocket event in July Val was spinning Sharon on Karen at the 100 Club in the 1980's.......what a girl Great bit of Detroit........Jo
grant Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 What an achingly horrible record link how can you say that when you plug crap like little annie btb!!!!
MarkWhiteley Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 IMO Little Annie shits on Sharon MacMahan, then recycles it then has it made into a whole new record - and something good like Mr Lucky
Tony Smith Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 IMO Little Annie shits on Sharon MacMahan, then recycles it then has it made into a whole new record - and something good like Mr Lucky link You cannot be serious!!! Or have I stumbled onto that Rare shite rock n'roll forum again?
MarkWhiteley Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 Rare - yes! Shite - most definately! R&B - not on yer nelly! :dance:
jocko Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 IMO Little Annie shits on Sharon MacMahan, then recycles it then has it made into a whole new record - and something good like Mr Lucky link Sometimes I Wonder - as my friend, lead singer of the Ascots used to say! Sharon McMann proper Stafford record but didnt even get near the play list! Billy I have a double sided Bill Haley acetate if you want it Cheers Jock
Chalky Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 What an achingly horrible record link After posting up that absolutely terrible acetate thing the other week, you then knock a perfectly decent soul record....beginning to wonder if your on the right scene
Chalky Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 IMO Little Annie shits on Sharon MacMahan, then recycles it then has it made into a whole new record - and something good like Mr Lucky link :graynone:
Chalky Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 IMO Little Annie shits on Sharon MacMahan, then recycles it then has it made into a whole new record - and something good like Mr Lucky link After posting up that absolutely terrible acetate thing the other week, you then knock a perfectly decent soul record....beginning to wonder if your on the right scene link forgot all about that Little Annie bag o' shite ...definately on the wrong scene
grant Posted May 6, 2005 Posted May 6, 2005 we're gettin back onto little annie again - (UNFORTUNATELY!) - the SM track is quite decent - granted not the best northern track i've ever heard by a long way but it shits on LA! LA may get some air play den sath but not up here folks (sorry mace u qualify as a southerner ) it's all down to taste folks and our tastes change all the time - been into the scene now for almost 30 yrs give or take 3 - some of the stuff i hated 20 odd yrs ago at the wcsc now quite like !! maybe in another 20 yrs i'll be boppin to LA (doubt it THOUGH!) ktf (whatever they play) Grant
Guest Posted May 7, 2005 Posted May 7, 2005 The SM 45 has a very nice and heavy Detroit backing, BUT the vocal is crap. Would have been better as an instrumental. Not really a soul record at all IMO. As a Detroit fan I can't help but like the backing with the heavy piano and all that. I wonder if this was the same copy as the M- one on ebay I bid on a few months ago (but lost) that sold for a few hundred £'s? What I planned to do was to sell it and I wouldn't be surprised if someone beat me to it, it has happened a few times before. Reminds me of Lonette on MS, i.e. nice Detroit backing and poor pop vocal.
Jumpinjoan Posted May 8, 2005 Posted May 8, 2005 I'm sorry.... but are you the Christian who also thought Esther Grant was crap? Loads Joan
Guest Posted May 8, 2005 Posted May 8, 2005 Yes I sure am. Poor vocals, obviously white vocals, and a generally poppy and/or easy listening approach just don't do it for me. I still think Esther Grant is pretty much crap. SM is better, it has at least got a good Detroit backing. Anything else you want to know?
Jumpinjoan Posted May 8, 2005 Posted May 8, 2005 Erm......... no.... ............ i'm pretty sure i just asked the one question.
Jumpinjoan Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 (edited) So let me see.....that's ESTHER GRANT SHARON McMANN LONETTE MARY SAXTON BUDDY CONNNOR LES CHANSONETTES DELEGATES OF SOUL that you think are crap. If i hear ANY of these records played - it makes my night just that bit better. If i was to hear them ALL on the same night I'D FEEL SURE I MUST HAVE DIED ON THE WAY & GONE STRAIGHT TO NORTHERN SOUL HEAVEN. Not saying they're the 7 most soulful records of all time....... But hey, what do i know......? Joan Edited May 9, 2005 by jumpinjoan
Guest Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Buddy Connor? You have me mistaken for someone else. Buddy Connor "When You're Alone" is a top tune IMO, very soulful. Delegates Of Soul is okish, just not madly in love with it. Of the ones mentioned the only one I really hate is Les Chansonettes, I don't hate the others, I just don't think they're very good. So let ME see.....that's ESTHER GRANT (I still believe Tim Brown hit the nail on the head with "Lacklustre femme soul item") SHARON McMANN (decent backing, poor (white I presume?) vocals sung in a pop style) LONETTE (Decent backing, white girlie pop vocals) MARY SAXTON (Benny Hill meets a white canadian woman and they decide to make a northern stomper...) BUDDY CONNNOR (Great proper soul and great sparse production. I really rate this.) LES CHANSONETTES (Just awful, I can't stand these squeaky and noisy girlie sounds) DELEGATES OF SOUL (OK, but don't really do it for me + it is very overplayed and overpriced)
Pete S Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 So let me see.....that's ESTHER GRANT SHARON McMANN LONETTE MARY SAXTON BUDDY CONNNOR LES CHANSONETTES DELEGATES OF SOUL that you think are crap. link Joan, are you stalking Christian you know ewverything about him!
Pete S Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 I wanna know why the person who asked the original question doesn't know the answer seeing as it's his record :graynone:
MarkWhiteley Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Think I aggree with Christian on al of his "hates" bar the first one, here's what I think...... ESTHER GRANT Eeasily one of finest female soul records ever made. Christian you have no taste ...would kill for a real one in my box SHARON McMANN Ahem... you al know hopw I feel about this one LONETTE Very average, like he says bad girlie vocals MARY SAXTON Very middle of the road, aggree with Chris' descrption, but this may be a bit hypocritical as I've just bought one (much prefer the other 45 on the labe if that's any constellation) BUDDY CONNNOR Briliant - and cheap providing you buy it credited to the World's Funkiest Band - £20 at the most! LES CHANSONETTES Shite - nuff said DELEGATES OF SOUL Great record, but yes, overpriced due to the ammount of them about. Can't say it's played out though - not at venues I go to anyway. Apart from hearing it at Soulsvile on Friday (courtesy Mr Mannion) I can't remember last time I heard it out! .....just my views anyway Bily
Jumpinjoan Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 (edited) Like i said............ WHAT DO I (& the countless others out there who dance to this shite) KNOW. Take care, Loads, Joan x PS: appreciate all the trouble you went to with your post! Edited May 9, 2005 by jumpinjoan
Steve G Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 LONETTE (Decent backing, white girlie pop vocals) link Isn't this the "white girlie" who morphed into no less a soul singer than Lonette McKee at a later stage in her career? Or am I getting confused again?
Guest Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 WHAT DO I (& the countless others out there who dance to this shite) KNOW. Indeed a good and justified question... Does the fact that countless people dance to certain pop records make them soul records? Or should it convince me to like them? Britney Spears sell millions of records and millions of people probably dance to them too, that doesn't change my view that she is an evil product and should preferably be destroyed. I like good soul records you can dance to, good production, good beat, good strong soul vocals and preferably it should also be a good tune with some kind of melody and so on.
Guest Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 ESTHER GRANT Eeasily one of finest female soul records ever made. Christian you have no taste ...would kill for a real one in my box Agree Mark, Awesome record IMO
Guest Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 (edited) Isn't this the "white girlie" who morphed into no less a soul singer than Lonette McKee at a later stage in her career? Or am I getting confused again? link I always presumed it was. Maybe it isn't. McKee is a pale african american apparently. Edited May 9, 2005 by Guest
MarkWhiteley Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Agree Mark, Awesome record IMO link Acetate's best I could do.... Come to friendship next Sat and I'll play it for you
Guest rachel Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 LES CHANSONETTES Shite - nuff said link Or alternatively, fantastic uptempo girl group and quite possibly the best record on Shrine IMO - nuff said
Guest Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 (edited) If this is Lonette McKee she shure fooled me. Not exactly 'black' even if her great grandmother or something might have been... Or is this anothar artist? Sorry for lifting this pic from somewhere else btw. Edited May 9, 2005 by Guest
Guest Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Or alternatively, fantastic uptempo girl group and quite possibly the best record on Shrine IMO - nuff said link Let's start another. I am one of those wacky persons who think Shrine (with a FEW exceptions) is probably THE most overrated label of all time.
Guest rachel Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Let's start another. I am one of those wacky persons who think Shrine (with a FEW exceptions) is probably THE most overrated label of all time. link Actually I agree with you here, maybe not THE most overrated but definitely one of them (though I must admit I haven't listened to a lot of it in great depth, simply because most of the Shrine tracks I've heard have done nothing much for me on first listening). Still like the Chansonettes though (both sides). Do I have to hand in my anorak now?
Pete S Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Or alternatively, fantastic uptempo girl group and quite possibly the best record on Shrine IMO - nuff said link sorry Rach, I meant :graynone:
Guest rachel Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 sorry Rach, I meant :graynone: link :graynone: yourself. Are you not a fan?
Pete S Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 :graynone: yourself. Are you not a fan? link No, it's a good record but Shirley Edwards is a million times better (IMO)
Guest Dan Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Actually I agree with you here, maybe not THE most overrated but definitely one of them (though I must admit I haven't listened to a lot of it in great depth, simply because most of the Shrine tracks I've heard have done nothing much for me on first listening). some great stuff on shrine - this time by ray pollard is immense and i would almost literally kill for a copy of the prophets stop overlooking me is awesome, too but there is some utter tosh on the label as well
Jumpinjoan Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 WHAT DO I (& the countless others out there who dance to this shite) KNOW. Indeed a good and justified question... Does the fact that countless people dance to certain pop records make them soul records? Or should it convince me to like them? Does the fact that you don't dance to certain records make them 'not' soul records? Or should that convince me to 'not' like them? I would've thought you'd be over the moon that there are so many of us out there with such terrible taste in records. Leaves all the proper stuff for you. Take care Joan x
MarkWhiteley Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 (edited) Let's start another. I am one of those wacky persons who think Shrine (with a FEW exceptions) is probably THE most overrated label of all time. link ...and I am one of those just as wacky persons that totally aggrees As far as I am concerned there are 2 good records on Shrine: Ray Pollard and JD Bryant. The rest are between utter shite (i.e. Eddie Daye, Les Chansonettes) and strictly average (i.e. Shirley Edwards, Cautions). Think that about sums it up Do you aggree chris? Edited May 9, 2005 by billytheboot
Chalky Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 (edited) Isn't this the "white girlie" who morphed into no less a soul singer than Lonette McKee at a later stage in her career? Or am I getting confused again? link Lonnette..... Edited May 9, 2005 by chalky
MarkWhiteley Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Can't download it Chalky, send us it as JPeg please
Guest Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Does the fact that you don't dance to certain records make them 'not' soul records? *No, of course not, there is no such connection. Just as there is no connection between a lot of people like yourself dancing to a record and it automatically because of that will be a soul record. Besides, there are many bad soul records. Or should that convince me to 'not' like them? *No. What you like is up to you. If I can convince someone to listen to what I consider great music it makes me glad though, sharing is caring and all that. I would've thought you'd be over the moon that there are so many of us out there with such terrible taste in records. Leaves all the proper stuff for you. *I am actually glad that a lot of people are chasing things I don't rate, takes some attention away from the stuff I want and it is bad enough as it is without everyone chasing the exact same records. Regards Christian Take care Joan x link
Guest Posted May 9, 2005 Posted May 9, 2005 Ray Pollard "This Time" is good, Prophets is pretty good, Cairos a bit crazy but good, a couple more are also pretty good but on the whole I feel most of the stuff is a bit weak. Tinny and noisy productions with far too many instruments making noise at the same time, there is also a certain thinness to the sound (and not in a good way IMO) on most tunes. I don't hate it (except Les Chansonettes, pure horror) I just think it is very overrated and there is not much there that justifies the extreme hype.
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