December 21, 200816 yr Dave Thorley said: Hi guys How many version of 'Birth of a playboy' are there ????? Crown Four
December 21, 200816 yr Author grouse said: Crown Four So Crown Four and Chosen Few, I think the link between the two is that Roy Handy was in both groups, can anyone confirm that. Are there any other versions!!!! Can anyone post up a sound file for Crown Four and the flip side 'Taking all the love' Thanks For your help Dave
December 21, 200816 yr Author OK the reason for the question is that I have a Abtone studio disc. One side is 'Birth of a playboy' and the other is 'Description of my girl'. Listening to it, it plays BOAP one side and the other side plays 'Love for my girl', as per the Crown Four release, now that I have found short clips of them in the Refo libarary I know it's a studio disc of The Crown Four. But I wonder if the original title was DOMG for the other side. Finally I notice on Dave Rimmers site he list the the a side as 'Taking all the love I can/Birth of a playboy' Is that another release or a mis-print Edited December 21, 200816 yr by Dave Thorley
December 21, 200816 yr Mine's a different Maple label design? on Vinyl.....''Taking all the love I can' is the A side Edited December 21, 200816 yr by Val
December 21, 200816 yr Author Val said: Mine's a different Maple label design? on Vinyl.....''Taking all the love I can' is the A side Thanks Val So Dave has mixed up the info for The Crown Four and Chosen Few on his site.
December 21, 200816 yr Author mikecook said: you're welcome ooops! my mistake, you weren't thanking me Mike your contribution was appreciated
December 21, 200816 yr The Crown Four and Chosen Few releases of "Birth Of A Playboy" on the three labels LEE JOHN, MAPLE and CANYON are all the exact same recording, they are not different versions. The LEE JOHN mix has got a lot more treble compared to the MAPLE and CANYON releases though. The release info for the 3 releases is as follows: Crown Four - Birth Of A Playboy / Love Of My Girl - LEE JOHN 619 Chosen Few - Birth Of A Playboy / Taking All The Love I Can - MAPLE 1000 Chosen Few - Birth Of A Playboy / Taking All The Love I Can - CANYON 1000 "Love Of My Girl" and "Taking All The Love I Can" are not the same tune. As far as I know The Crown Four, The Chosen Few and The Adventurers (on BLUE ROCK) were different names for the same group (bar one member or so).
December 21, 200816 yr Author Sebastian said: The Crown Four and Chosen Few releases of "Birth Of A Playboy" on the three labels LEE JOHN, MAPLE and CANYON are all the exact same recording, they are not different versions. The LEE JOHN mix has got a lot more treble compared to the MAPLE and CANYON releases though. The release info for the 3 releases is as follows: Crown Four - Birth Of A Playboy / Love Of My Girl - LEE JOHN 619 Chosen Few - Birth Of A Playboy / Taking All The Love I Can - MAPLE 1000 Chosen Few - Birth Of A Playboy / Taking All The Love I Can - CANYON 1000 "Love Of My Girl" and "Taking All The Love I Can" are not the same tune. As far as I know The Crown Four, The Chosen Few and The Adventurers (on BLUE ROCK) were different names for the same group (bar one member or so). Hi Seb Thanks for that, I have to disagree on the versions thing. In so many ways 'Birth of a playboy' is different. One example is towards the end of the Crown Four there is vocal fad out, where as on the Chosen Few this is re-place with horns. Also on the Chosen Few, the horns are very to the forground, on the other they are lost in the back ground. They may have used the same recording, but they are diffrently mixed. Edited December 21, 200816 yr by Dave Thorley
December 21, 200816 yr Dave Thorley said: I have to disagree on the versions thing. They may have used the same recording, but they are diffrently mixed. I agree. I just wanted to highlight that they were all the same recording, not different versions (as in different vocals, different backing track etc.).
December 21, 200816 yr Ahem...I have a M- copy of the Crown Four on Lee John for sale on my site at what some may consider a bargain price of £100.
December 21, 200816 yr Sebastian said: As far as I know The Crown Four, The Chosen Few and The Adventurers (on BLUE ROCK) were different names for the same group (bar one member or so). Must be the same Adventurers that recorded "Easy Baby" on Compass, as I think I can remember its the same writers, G. Perry etc?
December 21, 200816 yr Stardom said: Must be the same Adventurers that recorded "Easy Baby" on Compass, as I think I can remember its the same writers, G. Perry etc? it is the same group, there's an article in there's that beat.
December 21, 200816 yr Sebastian said: The Crown Four and Chosen Few releases of "Birth Of A Playboy" on the three labels LEE JOHN, MAPLE and CANYON are all the exact same recording, they are not different versions. what??!! Come on Seb..they are not the 'exact same' at all....... and it is a matter of taste but The Chosen Few wins it for me...
December 21, 200816 yr Dave Abbott said: what??!! Come on Seb..they are not the 'exact same' at all....... and it is a matter of taste but The Chosen Few wins it for me... Me too............prefer the horns........... Russ
December 22, 200816 yr Dave Abbott said: what??!! Come on Seb..they are not the 'exact same' at all....... and it is a matter of taste but The Chosen Few wins it for me... if we are talking about taste - there is only 1 version
December 22, 200816 yr Dave Abbott said: what??!! Come on Seb..they are not the 'exact same' at all....... and it is a matter of taste but The Chosen Few wins it for me... I just did an A/B comparison and they are the exact same recordings, but mixed and mastered quite differently as Dave pointed out. The brass is more prominent on the Maple/Canyon issue and the piano is more prominent on the Lee John issue. But all ingredients can be found in either version, they are just buried or highlighted in the mixes to different degrees.
December 22, 200816 yr Author Yes I love the Chosen Few version, but what a killer flip on the Crown Four. You just have to have both
December 22, 200816 yr Sebastian said: I just did an A/B comparison and they are the exact same recordings, but mixed and mastered quite differently as Dave pointed out. The brass is more prominent on the Maple/Canyon issue and the piano is more prominent on the Lee John issue. But all ingredients can be found in either version, they are just buried or highlighted in the mixes to different degrees. OK Seb, they are the exact same recording - but the mixing has totaly made them different versions... If I lived in Malmo i would come round yours right now and take you and buy you one of those rather nice green cactus ciders any niters planned matie?
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Hi guys
How many version of 'Birth of a playboy' are there ?????