Guest familytree Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 This subject was probably covered when Joss Stone released it but i wasnt a member then. Anyway, Ive just found a 'Sugar Billy' album in the attic 'super duper love' (see what some people find in their attics Beeks! ) and obviously realised this is where Joss got it from, its a brilliant album altogether but i have never heard of sugar billy before.. (well must have done at some point but its been locked away for 15 years) has she done anything since and was she credited for it on the Stone album etc... any info appreciated cos i know nothing about Sugar Billy.... go easy on me for my ignorance please... hey and does anyone know what the album is worth?? My first ever posting on here so be kind x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 This subject was probably covered when Joss Stone released it but i wasnt a member then. Anyway, Ive just found a 'Sugar Billy' album in the attic 'super duper love' (see what some people find in their attics Beeks! ) and obviously realised this is where Joss got it from, its a brilliant album altogether but i have never heard of sugar billy before.. (well must have done at some point but its been locked away for 15 years) has she done anything since and was she credited for it on the Stone album etc... any info appreciated cos i know nothing about Sugar Billy.... go easy on me for my ignorance please... hey and does anyone know what the album is worth?? My first ever posting on here so be kind x Sugar Billy born Willie Garner in Detroit soul funk singer from the 70's - wrote Super Duper Love in 1974. No links to any images.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Sugar Billy born Willie Garner in Detroit soul funk singer from the 70's - wrote Super Duper Love in 1974. No links to any images.... Hey thanks for that... yes a very funky album... fab tune for 74 and now x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Keithw Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hey thanks for that... yes a very funky album... fab tune for 74 and now x had 2 45 releases played on the scene got both on 45 somewhere-----sugar pie and super duper love--------both on fast track Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
mikeysoul Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Is the LP quite hard to get and so been repressed/booted?. See 45's around but only repress of the LP Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 had 2 45 releases played on the scene got both on 45 somewhere-----sugar pie and super duper love--------both on fast track Gosh was Super Duper played out on the scene?!... Ive obviously been going to the wrong places! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Is the LP quite hard to get and so been repressed/booted?. See 45's around but only repress of the LP Hope your not asking me! ha .. Mine is def original but Im very interested to know if its hard to get.... I suppose it must be if not just for the age of it.... the whole album is great! Joss barely changed a thing!... though as always the production is a lot meatier.....mmmmm! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sean Hampsey Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Gosh was Super Duper played out on the scene?!... Ive obviously been going to the wrong places! I would say No... to that "Super Duper Love" was played on the 'Northern Soul' scene... although it was Dave Godin who gave me my copy, many moons ago and he rated it very highly indeed - long b4 the lovely Ms Stone got hold of it. Cool tune though! Sean Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) His best 45 is "I Got Some" on New Day, awesome drums. Funny how close Joss' version of "Super Duper Love" is to the original. I guess some tracks just don't need improving. "> Edited December 17, 2008 by nz45s Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Charlie Rees Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 I would say No... to that "Super Duper Love" was played on the 'Northern Soul' scene... although it was Dave Godin who gave me my copy, many moons ago and he rated it very highly indeed - long b4 the lovely Ms Stone got hold of it. Cool tune though! Sean Seem to remember Colin playing this at the Mecca as a last hour spin during 74/75 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Seem to remember Colin playing this at the Mecca as a last hour spin during 74/75 Did he? how interesting... good old Colin... you guys are a mine of information, its amazing reallly. still love to know the value of the album if anyone knows? So was he credited on the Stone album... wonder who put her in that direction, surely she wouldnt have heard it?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 (edited) I would say No... to that "Super Duper Love" was played on the 'Northern Soul' scene... although it was Dave Godin who gave me my copy, many moons ago and he rated it very highly indeed - long b4 the lovely Ms Stone got hold of it. Cool tune though! Sean Sorry, im confused (easily done!) It was played on the Northern scene you say? do you mean the funkier side of the Northern scene as in the Mecca by Colin? Bless Dave Godin, he was a lovely guy. Edited December 17, 2008 by familytree Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Cover-up Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 His best 45 is "I Got Some" on New Day "Your Wasting My Time" on New Day is pretty good. But best of all is the previously unreleased "Brand New Girl" which came out on BGP a few years back. Still a solid fixture in most funk DJs boxes. Hot or not... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
ZapatootheTiger Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Joss Stone's cover of SUPER DUPER LOVE was an almost note-for-note identical musical arrangements Suger Billy's original is a long-time favourite of mine... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Keithw Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Joss Stone's cover of SUPER DUPER LOVE was an almost note-for-note identical musical arrangements Suger Billy's original is a long-time favourite of mine... played @ the mecca / casanellis at Wigan,ritz all dayers manchester Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 played @ the mecca / casanellis at Wigan,ritz all dayers manchester Ah Cassinellis too... frequented there about 3 times a week at one point! as well as all the other places you mention, I have obviously forgotten a lot of things... x ... value of the album?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 So was he credited on the Stone album... wonder who put her in that direction, surely she wouldnt have heard it?? Yeah he's credited as writer on the Joss Stone CD, there's no way they would have got away with omitting him. That Joss Stone album was all put up by the producers, Betty Wright etc. They are where all those songs came to Joss from. I saw her live in 06 & people were screaming for tracks off that album & she said "I haven't sung most of those songs in years, I don't even remember the words for any of them" in a cutesy voice & then proceeded to play stuff from her 2nd & 3rd CDs. I think the only Soul Sessions ones she sang were 2 of the singles "Fell In Love" & one other. It was pretty disappointing. Her backing singers also had a solo spot & waxed the floor with her Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Seem to remember Colin playing this at the Mecca as a last hour spin during 74/75 How the hell do you remember things like this?? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Epic Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 You can get the single for about £3.00 - loads of copies of the album on Ebay & Gemm for about a tenner. South Shore Market in Blackpool used to have all the Sugar Billy "Fast Track" singles for about 30p in the late seventies - happy days!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 You can get the single for about £3.00 - loads of copies of the album on Ebay & Gemm for about a tenner. South Shore Market in Blackpool used to have all the Sugar Billy "Fast Track" singles for about 30p in the late seventies - happy days!! A tenner??!!!! surely not..god the cover is worth a tenner on its own, is that for an original or re-release as someone mentioned earlier thats all they could find? thanks Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 How the hell do you remember things like this?? It amazes me too! x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Rob Moss Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Just Brother Frank Bryant remembers playing bass on the record, if that counts for anything. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Yeah he's credited as writer on the Joss Stone CD, there's no way they would have got away with omitting him. That Joss Stone album was all put up by the producers, Betty Wright etc. They are where all those songs came to Joss from. I saw her live in 06 & people were screaming for tracks off that album & she said "I haven't sung most of those songs in years, I don't even remember the words for any of them" in a cutesy voice & then proceeded to play stuff from her 2nd & 3rd CDs. I think the only Soul Sessions ones she sang were 2 of the singles "Fell In Love" & one other. It was pretty disappointing. Her backing singers also had a solo spot & waxed the floor with her Thats interesting, yes I remember now that Betty Wright was involved.. shame about the concert..............Im still reeling from the Tenner valuation.. no early retirement on that one then!ha Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Just Brother Frank Bryant remembers playing bass on the record, if that counts for anything. Er Angies or Sugars??.... pardon my ignorance x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sister dawn Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 too much sugar is bad for ya..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kris Holmes Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 A tenner??!!!! surely not..god the cover is worth a tenner on its own, is that for an original or re-release as someone mentioned earlier thats all they could find? thanks It has been reissued but the original isn't even that rare, there's one on ebay now for $14.99 buy it now. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 The producer of Joss' 1st album was a big collector who I Djed with at one of the NYC Soul club dos once, nice geezer who had picked out some of his favourite tracks from his collection for her to cover. The Billy Garner tracks on BGP are all excellent funk and produced by the legendary Detroit producer Dave Hamilton whose other more Northern soul than funk CDs are available on Kent of course. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Djmelismo Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 It has been reissued but the original isn't even that rare, there's one on ebay now for $14.99 buy it now. Agree, never been an expensive/rare record, but a very good one, so worth purchasing for anyone who´s into the grittier side of soul and doesn´t already own a copy! Cheers, Mel Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Agree, never been an expensive/rare record, but a very good one, so worth purchasing for anyone who´s into the grittier side of soul and doesn´t already own a copy! Cheers, Mel This site comes into its own for inside info! ... so interesting... 15 dollars?... best get back in the attic! cheers x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest familytree Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 The producer of Joss' 1st album was a big collector who I Djed with at one of the NYC Soul club dos once, nice geezer who had picked out some of his favourite tracks from his collection for her to cover. The Billy Garner tracks on BGP are all excellent funk and produced by the legendary Detroit producer Dave Hamilton whose other more Northern soul than funk CDs are available on Kent of course. Thanks. again, very interesting...x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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