Guest Glawsters Best Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 is he taking the piss how many as the sold theirs four on ebay now WTF Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ernie Andrews Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 SORRY TO KEEP HARPING ON ABOUT THIS BUT THIS COULD HAPPEN TO ANY RECORD! Its sheer specualtion as to how many copies of any tune are out there without due provenance. Anyone who spends a grand on a record needs to seriously think hard about depreciation etc Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
bri pinch Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 SORRY TO KEEP HARPING ON ABOUT THIS BUT THIS COULD HAPPEN TO ANY RECORD! Its sheer specualtion as to how many copies of any tune are out there without due provenance. Anyone who spends a grand on a record needs to seriously think hard about depreciation etc FIVE COPIES ON EBAY, SAME TOP BIDDER ON FOUR OF EM . BRI PINCH. SUNDAY CHILLOUT, 14TH DECEMBER, HORSE AND GROOM PUB, EAST LAITH GATE, DONCASTER. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 He sold a few last month as well. He had an excuse for having a second copy, that once he'd sold the first a band member or one of their family suddenly presented him with another. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike E Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) He sold a few last month as well. He had an excuse for having a second copy, that once he'd sold the first a band member or one of their family suddenly presented him with another. Been told that he not package the records up very well,specially for such a valuable record.Piece of newspaper wrapped around with a piece of sellotape, I have it on good authority Edited December 8, 2008 by Mike E Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Sebastian Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 He sold a few last month as well. He had an excuse for having a second copy, that once he'd sold the first a band member or one of their family suddenly presented him with another. You're thinking about Lester Tipton on La Beat. There have been at least 25 copies of the Four Tracks 45 on eBay sold by the same seller during the past year. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy Kempster Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 You're thinking about Lester Tipton on La Beat. There have been at least 25 copies of the Four Tracks 45 on eBay sold by the same seller during the past year. makes you wonder how many mre he found in that old closed up detroit record shop Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest in town Mikey Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 You're thinking about Lester Tipton on La Beat. There have been at least 25 copies of the Four Tracks 45 on eBay sold by the same seller during the past year. Yes. You're right Sebastian. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 FIVE COPIES ON EBAY, SAME TOP BIDDER ON FOUR OF EM . You're right. Anyone thinking it's a good investment or seller's buddy raising the bids? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
pikeys dog Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 You're right. Anyone thinking it's a good investment or seller's buddy raising the bids? Latter I.M.O. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Baz Atkinson Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 ANOTHER CLARA HARDY IN THE MAKING? BAZ A Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 mind you if you're a collector (for love of the music) and not just buying it to sell on, heres your chance to get a minter at a reasonable price.When the price of betty lloyd came down some years ago,l loved it ,cause l got one cheap for my collection Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 even if he has 50 they will all be snapped up ..... the price will go down now , but will soon move back up .... good time to buy a mint copy..... he packs them well , i've had one and i know of two others that have had them from this guy, and all packed well . Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Coops Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 even if he has 50 they will all be snapped up ..... the price will go down now , but will soon move back up .... good time to buy a mint copy..... he packs them well , i've had one and i know of two others that have had them from this guy, and all packed well . is it just me who thinks it's not even worth the newspaper it's wrapped in with the imitation 70's chinese kung-fu type intro, my, my. ain't his fault, if there are peeps willing to pay the money then where's the problem? if they bought it because they like it and can afford and are willing to pay the pennies then end of, no rip off. voting labour and expecting socialists now THAT'S a rip off Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Been telling you he had loads for ages now. He should be honest and say I got 100 copies or whatever he has. Instead he's doing the old milk em off one at a time job. As they say there's one born every minute. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mike E Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 (edited) even if he has 50 they will all be snapped up ..... the price will go down now , but will soon move back up .... good time to buy a mint copy..... he packs them well , i've had one and i know of two others that have had them from this guy, and all packed well . Well maybe that was the odd one then and he was thinking about the money he was going to make Edited December 8, 2008 by Mike E Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Nik Mak Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Well maybe that was the odd one then and he was thinking about the money he was going to make Been told by a dealer that the guy has (Had?) 60. Which means that there are probably a couple of hundred floating around in peoples collections, so still quite rare. I paid £400 for mine a few months back from a collector in the uk I think that was a fare price. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Oh why don't you all get over it. So the lad got lucky and has found shed loads of a good title, best of luck to him. Every weekend I hear many from this site out and about talking up great finds of the past or dreaming of the future big one !!!!. If any one of you found a box full of a £500+ record are you trying to tell me you would tell the world so you struggle to sell them for £100 or less, get out of here. It's a great record it will always sell at what the market values it at, that's 'a in total veiw', not one individuals veiw. Some of the people have read the several threads on here on the subject or heard chat about it at venues and have still decided to bid, their choice and their action makes up part of the current market value. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Oh why don't you all get over it. So the lad got lucky and has found shed loads of a good title, best of luck to him. Every weekend I hear many from this site out and about talking up great finds of the past or dreaming of the future big one !!!!. If any one of you found a box full of a £500+ record are you trying to tell me you would tell the world so you struggle to sell them for £100 or less, get out of here. Well actually Dave I think I would. It's one thing having two, three, four or even five copies of a record, quite another to have 50-100. I think the seller himself is losing his credibility by drip feeding them out in this way looking at the posts on this thread. Steve Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Well actually Dave I think I would. It's one thing having two, three, four or even five copies of a record, quite another to have 50-100. I think the seller himself is losing his credibility by drip feeding them out in this way looking at the posts on this thread. Steve What credibility, he needs none or I would thinks wants any with us, and if he has lost all of it why do guys in the UK still buy the record, some with full knowledge. Yes some are fully aware he has a shed load and have bought from him in the last few weeks cuz they want the record. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Phild Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Oh why don't you all get over it. So the lad got lucky and has found shed loads of a good title, best of luck to him. Every weekend I hear many from this site out and about talking up great finds of the past or dreaming of the future big one !!!!. If any one of you found a box full of a £500+ record are you trying to tell me you would tell the world so you struggle to sell them for £100 or less, get out of here. It's a great record it will always sell at what the market values it at, that's 'a in total veiw', not one individuals veiw. Some of the people have read the several threads on here on the subject or heard chat about it at venues and have still decided to bid, their choice and their action makes up part of the current market value. Here, Here! Anyway who wants a brand new minty one anyway? Especially when they could have a proper VG+ one thats done the rounds a bit and has a story to tell Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 is it just me who thinks it's not even worth the newspaper it's wrapped in with the imitation 70's chinese kung-fu type intro, my, my. ain't his fault, if there are peeps willing to pay the money then where's the problem? if they bought it because they like it and can afford and are willing to pay the pennies then end of, no rip off. voting labour and expecting socialists now THAT'S a rip off B side is a great 60's sound, i know a few that think it's the best side ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Well actually Dave I think I would. It's one thing having two, three, four or even five copies of a record, quite another to have 50-100. I think the seller himself is losing his credibility by drip feeding them out in this way looking at the posts on this thread. Steve would love to find a 100 of a 45 like this...... would drip feed them in and use the profit to buy other choons i had on my wants list...... credibility got nothing to do with it, it's business .... you invest the money and if it pays off great, he's not selling boots....or trying to con anyone.... he's selling originals at the market price..... good luck to him ! paid almost $900 for mine and love it to bits Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 would love to find a 100 of a 45 like this...... would drip feed them in and use the profit to buy other choons i had on my wants list...... credibility got nothing to do with it, it's business .... you invest the money and if it pays off great, he's not selling boots....or trying to con anyone.... he's selling originals at the market price..... good luck to him ! paid almost $900 for mine and love it to bits agree with most of you apart the highlighted. in theory, the market price is the result of supply and demand. yet the supply (i.e. number of copies seller really has) is not really clear, therefore I'd say it's not the real market price people are paying, they're paying too much. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Rimmer Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 agree with most of you apart the highlighted. in theory, the market price is the result of supply and demand. yet the supply (i.e. number of copies seller really has) is not really clear, therefore I'd say it's not the real market price people are paying, they're paying too much. I agree that if there are 100 copies, the price it's currently selling for would appear to be a bit high. But the reason people are still buying is because they want the record and are not prepared to take the risk of there only being 50 copies, and all sold before the price drops considerably, so they buy at above what should be the real market price. Therefore because market demand is still dictating the price, I'm afraid you have to conclude that the price being paid is the real market price. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I agree that if there are 100 copies, the price it's currently selling for would appear to be a bit high. But the reason people are still buying is because they want the record and are not prepared to take the risk of there only being 50 copies, and all sold before the price drops considerably, so they buy at above what should be the real market price. Therefore because market demand is still dictating the price, I'm afraid you have to conclude that the price being paid is the real market price. You're right if the number of copies are not really known, but I thought it's confirmed that the guy found exactly 100 copies? Furthermore not every Ebay Northern soul buyer is on Soul Source so the fact that many copies have turned up may not be known to everybody placing a bid on one of the Four Tracks? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Thorley Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 You're right if the number of copies are not really known, but I thought it's confirmed that the guy found exactly 100 copies? Furthermore not every Ebay Northern soul buyer is on Soul Source so the fact that many copies have turned up may not be known to everybody placing a bid on one of the Four Tracks? The soul scene in the main is a small world, word gets around, the situation with this disc is fairly well known and still people bib. Last week there were four for sale and still people bid. We all like to get good discs at the best price, but this is a bit like the current financial climate, we can talk this down or we can talk this up. It's a great disc and now many people how thought they would never own it have a copy. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve G Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I do understand the laws of supply and demand folks. Just don't want anyone to be hoodwinked when there are lots for sale. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
paultp Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 I actually think the guy has been pretty genuine, when he put the first batch of different records up on ebay, he started them all at 9.99 because he had no idea what he had. He clearly stated he had bought up the stock of a closed record shop. Now, if we had formed an orderly queue and been gentlemanly about it we could have had them for about $50 each. But the desire to own this record and in some cases the desire to make money ensured the first copy went for at least a couple of thou' and the seller being bombarded with emails asking if he had any more and how much. It was quickly clear that he had at least a boxfull, just not how big his box was. He seems to have run out of "The Fabulous Apollos - Some Good In Everything Bad" and most of the Ric-Tic stuff. Good luck to him, he took the risk on a closed shop's stiock and has been lucky. I just hope he doesn't run out before one of my snipe bids actually gets one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
CAMBRIDGE SOUL Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 At the end of the day there will still only be 150 copies of this 45 in existence and they will soon get swallowed up in collections around the world....... the price on this 45 will still stay high IMHO..... If a vg+ one comes up on eBay in 18 months time it will be $1000.00 plus I would guess. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted December 9, 2008 Share Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) dunno why folk want to have a pop at the seller, it's not his fault people still bid so high for the record.....the buyers are dictating the prices not the seller. Everyone knows he has quantity of the record and it's not a case of him saying last one.....ok this is definately the last one Edited December 9, 2008 by chalky Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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