Guest Brett F Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Hi Kev, You'll get a much more detailed response from Tony Rounce or Ady Croasdel on this area - they'll know much better than me the ins and outs of the Wand/Sceptre catalogue and distribution set-ups in the 60's I'm sure. However, I can recommend a few books if you liked the Stax one (which is excellent in my opinion - I met Rob Bowman last year). Try these:- Exploding: The Highs, Hits, Hype, & Hustlers Of The Warner Music Group - Stan Cornyn Off The Record: An Oral History Of Popular Music - Joe Smith The Sound Of The City: The Rise Of Rock N' Roll - Charlie Gillett Making Tracks: The History Of Atlantic Records - Charlie Gillet Clive: Inside The Record Business - Clive Davis There's loads of others but they tend to deal more with Rock/Pop acts and more recent times. The 'Exploding' book is a great read if you're into the history of Warner Brs and record company politics! Ian D Hi Ian, that is the single best reply i've ever read on here, thanks mate, i'm gonna' try and get all of these, i love to read (books in general) i've done all the main soul related books (ie.associated to the labels artists etc, not the" Northern scene" variety) great to actually know someone who can pass on this sort of related information. Brett F
Guest Brett F Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Awesome track Brett - enjoyed dancing to it at Sheffield when you spun it earlier this year - check out the Donny Hataway version on his "Live" album - it's blinding. Thanks Andy, any recommendation of yours is always worth following through, i've seen the album but haven't got it, so thats another on the wants list. Cheers Brett
P5OULH Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) Here's a few album gems but not all mid tempo tunes: Jerry Butler- Stop Steppin on My Dreams True Reflection- Where Im Coming From Love Unlimited- Move me no Mountain Anacostia- What Kind of Love Grey and Hanks- Never Let You Down Ben E. King - Smooth Sailing Patrice Rushen- Remind Me Teddy Pendergass- You and Me For Right Now Barbara McNair- It Happens Every Time/ Forget You Ever Met Me Baby Odyssey- Battened Ships Brenda Lee Eager & Jerry Butler- Ever Since I Can Remember Jackie Wilson- My Heart Is Calling Willie Hutch- Im Gonna Stay Terry Callier- What Colour Is Love Charles drains version of i'm gonna stay i think is the better version still a good album track though Paul. Edited December 9, 2008 by P5OULH
Guest Adam G Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Brenda Lee Eager & Jerry Butler- Ever Since I Can Remember good call on that one. Should be massive great 7ts
Kev Cane Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Brenda Lee Eager & Jerry Butler- Ever Since I Can Remember good call on that one. Should be massive great 7tsGreat pick Adam, love it aswell, heres a few that I like 9TH Creation-Bionic love affair-Prelude Notations-There I go-Gemigo Bill Brandon-Baby, love is a two way street-Prelude Greg Perry-Next time I see you-Casablanca Willie Hutch-Can,t get ready for losing you-Motown Freddie Hughes-We gotta keep on-Wand Millie Jackson-Something bout cha-Spring Bobby Womack-Come l amore-UA Leroy Hutson-Don,t let it get next to you-UA Rick James-Fool on the street-Gordy Bobby Womack-Give it up-Arista Kev
Saxafone Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Jackie Wilson "Stop Lying" A South Essex Soul Club anthem hey Taff, as spun by Mr Paul McKay As spun by Paul McKay at the 100 club last Saturday Brilliant when one of these lost gems gets an outing at a top venue. Taff
pikeys dog Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Rick James-Fool on the street-Gordy Kev Came out on U.S. and UK 45.
Guest Adam G Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Came out on U.S. and UK 45. Yea Im getting confused is the thread about lp only tracks as a lot mentioned have been on 45 as well? can some one
Guest Adam G Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Great pick Adam, love it aswell, heres a few that I like 9TH Creation-Bionic love affair-Prelude Notations-There I go-Gemigo Bill Brandon-Baby, love is a two way street-Prelude Greg Perry-Next time I see you-Casablanca Willie Hutch-Can,t get ready for losing you-Motown Freddie Hughes-We gotta keep on-Wand Millie Jackson-Something bout cha-Spring Bobby Womack-Come l amore-UA Leroy Hutson-Don,t let it get next to you-UA Rick James-Fool on the street-Gordy Bobby Womack-Give it up-Arista Kev Hya Kev some great choices as well mate top taste just like me!. Are you getting to the Orwell on the 27th you know you want to.
Mike Lofthouse Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Here's a few album gems but not all mid tempo tunes: Brenda Lee Eager & Jerry Butler- Ever Since I Can Remember Speaking of this album ...... is not The Independents version of 'Cant' Understand It' album only too? Both great versions BTW Mike
Rob Moss Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 A few suggestions; 'Don't say no more' Carla Thomas (STAX) 'Can't stop running away' Royalettes (MGM) 'I know better' Marvelettes/Gladys Knight (TAMLA/SOUL) 'I don't believe in losing' Righteous Brothers (VERVE) 'I can't escape your memory' Four Tops (MOTOWN) 'Can't break the habit' Martha & Vandellas (MOTOWN) 'Lovin' time' Mad Lads (VOLT) 'A way to love you' Shades of Blue (IMPACT) 'Open the door to your heart' Jackie Wilson (BRUNSWICK) 'What' Tina Mason (CAPITOL) 'Gotta tell somebody' Chris Bartley (VANDO) 'Forgotten man' David Ruffin (MOTOWN) 'Let's make a deal' ZZ Hill (COLUMBIA) 'Only you' Lenny Welch (KAPP) 'Come rain or shine' Originals (SOUL) 'I want my baby back' Stevie Wonder (TAMLA) 'Can we skip that part' Dells (VETERAN) 'I'm just warmin' up' Eloise Laws (LIBERTY) 'Gotta find a way to get you back' Temptations (GORDY) 'Life is the time' Dells (MERCURY) 'I just can't keep on going' Tyrone Davis (COLUMBIA)
Alan Walls Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 One's that immediately spring to mind: The Righteous Brothers: "It's Up To You" - Verve LP 'Souled Out' (Keb's old Jack Montomery c/u) Clyde McPhatter "Please Give Me Once More Chance" - Decca LP 'Welcome Home' Bobby Womack "Something For My Head" - Columbia LP 'Home Where The Heart Is' The Voice of East Harlem "Take a Stand" - Just Sunshine LP...bugger, can't remember! Leroy Hutson "Get To This You'll Get To Me" - Curtom LP...as above! I seem to recall Tony Hestor "Spaceland" only being available on Grapevine's 'Talk of The Grapevine" compilation, and The Spinners "What More Could A Boy Ask For" on the UK Motown comp 'From The Vaults'
Kev Cane Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Yea Im getting confused is the thread about lp only tracks as a lot mentioned have been on 45 as well? can some one Silly me, honestly didn,t know, I have just been playing the one I have had for 30 years off the "Bustin out" album. Great chance of us going to the Orwell now Adam as Steve has pulled the Coachman. Speak soon Kev
Guest grahamt Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Silly me, honestly didn,t know, I have just been playing the one I have had for 30 years off the "Bustin out" album. Great chance of us going to the Orwell now Adam as Steve has pulled the Coachman. Speak soon Kev hi kev....forgot about that rick james track, time to dig out "L 7" for joe,s i think.....g https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wKMsypQ2i-w
Pat Wallace Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Jackie Wilson "Stop Lying" A South Essex Soul Club anthem hey Taff, as spun by Mr Paul McKay Fantastic tune, which album is this from? Pat
Guest Richard Bergman Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) The banner above this thread reminded me what a fantastic track Milton Wright's "Leave Me Alone" from the incredible Spaced lp was. Does anyone have a spare copy Edited December 10, 2008 by Richard Bergman
Guest Richard Bergman Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) One's that immediately spring to mind: The Righteous Brothers: "It's Up To You" - Verve LP 'Souled Out' (Keb's old Jack Montomery c/u) Clyde McPhatter "Please Give Me Once More Chance" - Decca LP 'Welcome Home' Bobby Womack "Something For My Head" - Columbia LP 'Home Where The Heart Is' The Voice of East Harlem "Take a Stand" - Just Sunshine LP...bugger, can't remember! Leroy Hutson "Get To This You'll Get To Me" - Curtom LP...as above! I seem to recall Tony Hestor "Spaceland" only being available on Grapevine's 'Talk of The Grapevine" compilation, and The Spinners "What More Could A Boy Ask For" on the UK Motown comp 'From The Vaults' Leroy Hutson is from Closer To The Source & Voices Of East Harlem from "Can You Feel It". Edited December 10, 2008 by Richard Bergman
Guest Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Fantastic tune, which album is this from? Pat Hi Pat Its taken from the Soul Galore album from 1966 Biff
Kev Cane Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 hi kev....forgot about that rick james track, time to dig out "L 7" for joe,s i think.....g https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wKMsypQ2i-w How goes it Graham, yeah remember when it was brand new, still holds up today as good as anything, are you there on Saturday night ? Kev
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Temps - Hey Girl - Cloud Nine LP/ Soul Satisfaction 2 CD - Motown O C Smith - I'm glad I fell in love with you - Motown (did come out on a regional label but I've got the demo Motown LP - not sure if it ever got issued) Edited December 10, 2008 by vinylvixen
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Ian, that is the single best reply i've ever read on here, thanks mate, i'm gonna' try and get all of these, i love to read (books in general) i've done all the main soul related books (ie.associated to the labels artists etc, not the" Northern scene" variety) great to actually know someone who can pass on this sort of related information. Brett F I'll repost my copy of Off the Record on Ebay so you can buy that
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Hi Kev, You'll get a much more detailed response from Tony Rounce or Ady Croasdel on this area - they'll know much better than me the ins and outs of the Wand/Sceptre catalogue and distribution set-ups in the 60's I'm sure. However, I can recommend a few books if you liked the Stax one (which is excellent in my opinion - I met Rob Bowman last year). Try these:- Exploding: The Highs, Hits, Hype, & Hustlers Of The Warner Music Group - Stan Cornyn Off The Record: An Oral History Of Popular Music - Joe Smith The Sound Of The City: The Rise Of Rock N' Roll - Charlie Gillett Making Tracks: The History Of Atlantic Records - Charlie Gillet Clive: Inside The Record Business - Clive Davis There's loads of others but they tend to deal more with Rock/Pop acts and more recent times. The 'Exploding' book is a great read if you're into the history of Warner Brs and record company politics! Ian D https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=330293506237 - mine's a mint copy with very slight creasing to the back of the dust jacket.
Guest Brett F Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) I'll repost my copy of Off the Record on Ebay so you can buy that Jo baby, should that not read, "Brett you fine fellow , handsome to boot, i will gladly give you said book ..Noble man that you are,... On grounds that you did finish work early and meet me at some god awful station and accompany me to a hellish hotel...so that i could play my records to Northern filth............ long, long ago..................... Edited December 10, 2008 by Brett F
Guest grahamt Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 How goes it Graham, yeah remember when it was brand new, still holds up today as good as anything, are you there on Saturday night ? Kev kev....yup im there....deffo be playing "fool" fri night at joe,s...forgot how good it was...remember playing it aycliffe village when it came out to total apathy....c ya sat.....g
Neiljon31 Posted December 10, 2008 Posted December 10, 2008 Hey, just sat and played this clip. I think its an amazin' track..never heard it before or of it. Is this a 'hard' LP ?? not looked, I'm just off to do so. Thanks for posting it nice one. https://www.juno.co.uk/search/?header_searc...p;genre_id=0000 7" reissued last year, missed it at the time on Juno. This will do for now.
timthemod Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Credited to Goga/Mc Niel I think thats Landy McNIEL but Goga.........Don't know that one It's actually Doris Mcneil and Jack Alan Goga, hope that helps. TTM
pow wow mik Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Hey, just sat and played this clip. I think its an amazin' track..never heard it before or of it. Is this a 'hard' LP ?? not looked, I'm just off to do so. Thanks for posting it nice one. sure this came out on a Prestige 45
Guest Brett F Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 (edited) sure this came out on a Prestige 45 Yes Mik it did, but like i mentioned the album is 5.21 long, i have the 45' but it really doesn't do the song justice, the single is 2.35, and it's the remaining 3 mins is where Sakinah Muhammad's vocal goes to a different stratosphere, hence the reason i posted it on the album thread, the finer part of the song (vocally) isn't on the 45'. Brett Edited December 11, 2008 by Brett F
Guest Brett F Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Hey, just sat and played this clip. I think its an amazin' track..never heard it before or of it. Is this a 'hard' LP ?? not looked, I'm just off to do so. Thanks for posting it nice one. Think the 45' is around the 70-100 mark ? (not sure), album.God Knows.. (but once again, if you get the song get the album version. ( or go whole hog and get both.....then never play the 45' ) Brett
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 Jo baby, should that not read, "Brett you fine fellow , handsome to boot, i will gladly give you said book ..Noble man that you are,... On grounds that you did finish work early and meet me at some god awful station and accompany me to a hellish hotel...so that i could play my records to Northern filth............ long, long ago..................... Brett, I disagree with you - Sheffield is quite a nice station as stations go and I'm sure everyone at Ponds Forge had washed But as you had bunked off work early here's the deal. If it doesn't get a bid on it, you can have it for Christmas....that's my last and final offer Getting back on topic - the Main Ingredient's 'Happiness is just around the bend' did come out on 45 but was much shortened. Their version on the 'Euphrates River' LP is mind bending....as is the full length version of 'Walk Away From Love' by a certain Mr D Ruffin - the 45 has been snipped and tucked. Laters
Guest gibber Posted December 11, 2008 Posted December 11, 2008 There are loads of L.P. tracks, but we would have to rule out all unrelesed tracks and P-Vine, or we could be on here for a very long time. here's a few things. The ones that i own i don't mind sharing, but i'm stil looking for some. 1 It Makes You Wanna Cry - Mavis Staples - Stax 2 Why You Wanna Make Me Blue/ I Can't Get Used To Sharing You - The Platters - Musicor/Stateside. 3 Down So Long - The Cospel Classics - Checker 4 Are You To Blind To See - Segments Of Time - Sussex 5 Long Live The King - Detroit Emeralds - Westbound. 6 Sunshine Roses And Rainbows - Smoke - Casablanca. (one for sale) 8 Nobody But You Babe - Clarence Reid (needed) Sad Sam Hi Sam That smoke track is not the one I play . Looking forward to hearing it when I come for a visit The one I play is I'm so glad you came along - smoke - RISIN on j Bridge. A great album. See you soon Andy
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