Guest Roddy Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 pikey can i get one of those hats please (officers version of course) Thanks if you could also add the designation Soul Police (scooter division) which would make me S.S.S.P.S.D
NEV Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 What's your definition of a soul snob. is it someone who... wont attend local events (handbaggers in attendance ) wont attend nighters (been there done that) wont listen to any new sounds ( not true northern) whats your thoughts.... SIMPLE A snob is surely someone who looks down there nose at others and in general thinks they are a better person than those who they consider below them??
Guest Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 SIMPLE A snob is surely someone who looks down there nose at others and in general thinks they are a better person than those who they consider below them?? and to add to that 'one' must take into account the following: snobs close ranks to exclude those they percieve as 'below' them, often by developing elaborate social codes, symbolic status and recognisable marks of language
Zed1 Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 Thanks if you could also add the designation Soul Police (scooter division) which would make me S.S.S.P.S.D Think I'd be P.S.S.S.S.D off with that name though?
scunnyjack Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 What's your definition of a soul snob. is it someone who... wont attend local events (handbaggers in attendance ) wont attend nighters (been there done that) wont listen to any new sounds ( not true northern) whats your thoughts.... Di Dave, Did you see any soul snob's at Drax last saturday?. All I saw was a packed house and very busy dance floor dancing to music from the days of the Wheel and Torch through to releases from this decade.A great night of good music and friendly people.So if anyone does not want to attend events because they do not meet their personel ideals.,that is their loss,although I would only refer these people to being snobbish, if they criticised those who ran and attended such events just because it did not suit their own ideals. Steve
Guest Trevski Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) pikey can i get one of those hats please (officers version of course) Thanks if you could also add the designation Soul Police (scooter division) which would make me S.S.S.P.S.D I've already provided the transport! (altho' I realise a true Soul Snob would only ride a lammy!) Notice tho; how they put the bazooka on the left, to balance the engine on the right.... Edited December 2, 2008 by Trevski
Guest Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 I've already provided the transport! (altho' I realise a true Soul Snob would only ride a lammy!) Notice tho; how they put the bazooka on the left, to balance the engine on the right.... a real 'soul' snob would not ride a scooter full stop. thats for scooter boys, mods & plastic soulies
Guest Trevski Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 (edited) a real 'soul' snob would not ride a scooter full stop. thats for scooter boys, mods & plastic soulies I beg to differ, but the old Wheel and Torch boys I first started going to 'niters with all had scooters, and there was nothing 'plastic' about them! (any one from York who remembers Al Tatt and Joe 90 will know you wouldn't dare call them anything disparaging! ) Edited December 2, 2008 by Trevski
Guest Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 one can ride a scoot and still love the music one can catch a 68 bus and still love the music all i was saying was that a 'soul snob' would possibly dismiss the notion of a scooter rider being a 'real' soulie no offence to Al Tatt, Joe 90 or any other scooterists, i dont give a toss what anyone is into - if you love the music you love the music. But i think that the very idea that a thread has been started asking what is the definition of a 'soul snob' suggest that they do exist - we only have to read some of the self opinionated views on soul forums to see that
barney Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 no matter what scene you are into, you will always get: people who have a high opinion of themselves those who look down on others old timers who have done it all youngens who are going to change the world imho we have all been guilty at one time or another of passing comment on someone about their knowledge ,dancin .,the way one dresses . etc. its human nature in its worst form its snobbery
Guest Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 no matter what scene you are into, you will always get: people who have a high opinion of themselves those who look down on others old timers who have done it all youngens who are going to change the world imho we have all been guilty at one time or another of passing comment on someone about their knowledge ,dancin .,the way one dresses . etc. its human nature in its worst form its snobbery Even beggars need someone to look down on. ~ Terry Pratchett ~
Zed1 Posted December 2, 2008 Posted December 2, 2008 imho we have all been guilty at one time or another of passing comment on someone about their knowledge ,dancin .,the way one dresses . etc. its human nature We've ALL been guilty of that.... sadly. The Soul scene summed up in one sketch..... https://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=AIMzWHdKxPY&...feature=related
Guest WPaulVanDyk Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 People who look down on you for having some opinon they don't agree with especially in music taste and tv well that's the problem, Paul O'Grady started it again when he talked about Northern Soul as lots of snobs thought this is not the way to go about it but look to a lot of people they don't know Wigan Casino or what Frank Wilson record was so for them to hear and see just shows what parts of Northern soul is and trust me does all your non soul friends know this
Spacehopper Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 i suppose like most things in life its not black and white..... a soul snob is not a particular type of soulie into one particular way of life....but more a way of thinking .. its easiest to call someone who searches for undiscovered originals and doesnt want to dance to do i love you anymore a snob .....but surely only if he looks down on those who still love frank wilson and baggy trousers because.... there are those 'nostagia' loving soulies who look down on those looking for undiscovered different sounds....or modern...or rnb....and so on... so its not what soul you are into more how you see those who arent
Guest Leigh J Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 When we have 5 decades of music under the heading of 'Northern Soul' its not realy one scene its probably half a dozen . With everyone following the one that apeals to them the most. There are not too many who can say 'I like it all'. This has been going on for years , the Ian Levine thing and The 60's newies of the 80's spring to mind , It was very aparent in the 80's with people choosing to stay away instead of giving the new stuff a chance ,but now the quality of a lot of the Stafford stuff that was dissmissed as 'new crap' has shone through over the last 10 or 15 years and is played alongside regular 'oldies'. A lot of people on the scene today are those who went to Wigan in the seventies , left , did the family thing and came back wanting to listen to same stuff as they did then , this makes it easy for promoters to make a few quid (fair play). I suppose all you need to do is pick your venues , there are more soul nites and allnighters now than there ever was so theres no need to listen to too much music that doesnt apeal to you.
Guest Nick Harrison Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) I think in the past it probabaly depended on who the guest was Jayne..but mewithsoul Sean is one of the fastest growing House enthusiasts on the planet (just to embarrass him) lol I've already got my request in for Dec. see ya there Julia Good on me mate old Sean Milward.......cannot knock him for his out reaching embrace and drive....just hope it's done with moderation and not isolation. Nick. Don't know how this ended up on soul snob thread - was on the soulfull house replying...... Edited December 3, 2008 by Nick Harrison
Guest Nick Harrison Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 What's your definition of a soul snob. is it someone who... wont attend local events (handbaggers in attendance ) wont attend nighters (been there done that) wont listen to any new sounds ( not true northern) whats your thoughts.... If you would have replaced that nasty word "SNOB" and asked the question - define a soul connoisseur (s)....then. That's different or is it .
Guest Roddy Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 god can we not have a laugh on a thread anymore ? Any esoteric scene has an element of snobery and i for one still want my hat !
Guest SteveJohnston Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Others would say its the Wally from Wigan who thinks crossover is in the Green Cross Code ... Thats GUMAGE you Manchester worzel.........................................
barney Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 god can we not have a laugh on a thread anymore ? Any esoteric scene had ter look this one up and still puzzledEsoteric knowledge, in the dictionary (non-scholarly) sense, is thus that which is available only to a narrow circle of "enlightened", "initiated", or specially educated people.[2] Esoteric items may be known as esoterica.[3] In contrast, exoteric knowledge is knowledge that is well-known or public; or perceived as informally canonic in society at large. In Western, English-speaking societies today, the term "esotericism" is not necessarily used in the sense of mystical knowledge or practice, but rather informally to mean any perception or knowledge that is difficult to understand or remember, such as theoretical physics, or that pertains to the minutiae of a particular discipline, such as "esoteric" baseball statistics.
barney Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Simon M is a soul snob one shouldnt really name and shame
Guest Bearsy Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 one shouldnt really name and shame why not when Simon murray is a soul snob
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Cracked up the other week when somebody mentioned on here that playing tracks from albums (from releases that were also released as 45's) was apparently considered 'bad form', has it come to this? Surely if it's a kosher release in either format it's got to be spun out ain't it? I mean seriously, get a grip. Catriona, thanks for pointing that out to me. Somebody could've shot me (with a genuine Luger) for committing a social soul blunder - 'bad form' to play tracks from albums???? So that's Clyde McPhatter 'One More Chance' and that Freddy Butler thing on Kapp out the window then Dear oh me....I thought I was a crashing snob for being able to name obscure French dishes made with animals stomach lining but a soul snob - um....I like everything, almost - is that a soul faux pas too far. I'm for the Soul Firing Squad - hand me the blindfold and remember to play 'Make Sure' at my burial and pass on my Matrix Magnifying Glass to the next deserving music lover....Goodbye Cruel Soul World ....damn, I've got to be at Stafford on Saturday - shoot me after that Edited December 3, 2008 by vinylvixen
Guest Brett F Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Catriona, thanks for pointing that out to me. Somebody could've shot me (with a genuine Luger) for committing a social soul blunder - 'bad form' to play tracks from albums???? So that's Clyde McPhatter 'One More Chance' and that Freddy Butler thing on Kapp out the window then Dear oh me....I thought I was a crashing snob for being able to name obscure French dishes made with animals stomach lining but a soul snob - um....I like everything, almost - is that a soul faux pas too far. I'm for the Soul Firing Squad - hand me the blindfold and remember to play 'Make Sure' at my burial and pass on my Matrix Magnifying Glass to the next deserving music lover....Goodbye Cruel Soul World ....damn, I've got to be at Stafford on Saturday - shoot me after that Hey Jo, don't know about Soul Snobs, but i know about Soul "CRAZIES". Those that will photograph small ginger biscuits with icing sugar faces through bakery shop windows... :D .....and people call me Nuts....... See you about Jo, take care girl. Brett Edited December 3, 2008 by Brett F
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Hey Jo, don't know about Soul Snobs, but i know about Soul "CRAZIES". Those that will photograph small ginger biscuits with icing sugar faces through bakery shop windows... .....and people call me Nuts....... See you about Jo, take care girl. Brett That weekend rocked...and I still have the Uppers and Downers photo somewhere I thought you said you'd never mention the ginger biscuits It's the Sheffield blood in me that makes me unhinged TC Big Fella xx
Catriona Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Catriona, thanks for pointing that out to me. Somebody could've shot me (with a genuine Luger) for committing a social soul blunder - 'bad form' to play tracks from albums???? So that's Clyde McPhatter 'One More Chance' and that Freddy Butler thing on Kapp out the window then Dear oh me....I thought I was a crashing snob for being able to name obscure French dishes made with animals stomach lining but a soul snob - um....I like everything, almost - is that a soul faux pas too far. I'm for the Soul Firing Squad - hand me the blindfold and remember to play 'Make Sure' at my burial and pass on my Matrix Magnifying Glass to the next deserving music lover....Goodbye Cruel Soul World ....damn, I've got to be at Stafford on Saturday - shoot me after that Not guilty honey, I think youve credited me with someone elses statement.
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 3, 2008 Posted December 3, 2008 Not guilty honey, I think youve credited me with someone elses statement. You're right Catriona....Jim Elliott's quote was intermingled with your reply....I'm off to report quote intermingling to the Management...this sort of thing has to be stamped out before it gets out of hand And a blatant bit of advertising - don't forget Stafford Rangers on Saturday
Bjorn Nilsson Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 To the people outside the soul scene I'm definately a soul snob. On the soul scene I'm just like everybody else. That's what I love!
Guest Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 What's your definition of a soul snob. is it someone who... wont attend local events (handbaggers in attendance ) wont attend nighters (been there done that) wont listen to any new sounds ( not true northern) whats your thoughts.... Soul Snobs are people with better original 60s Northern Soul records than I have got
Dave West Posted December 4, 2008 Author Posted December 4, 2008 no matter what scene you are into, you will always get: people who have a high opinion of themselves those who look down on others old timers who have done it all youngens who are going to change the world imho we have all been guilty at one time or another of passing comment on someone about their knowledge ,dancin .,the way one dresses . etc. its human nature in its worst form its snobbery its true weve all passed derogatory comments about other people but a soul snob makes it a lifestyle
Guest Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 It wasn't Nostalgia for the particular track but for the general sound and genre.
KevH Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 i was only saying to the Butler this morning,"When you've cleaned my records,come and read this thread.In your break". Oh how we laughed.
Paul Shirley Posted December 4, 2008 Posted December 4, 2008 (edited) A Soul Snob to me is them older who think they are much better than you because your younger and into NS, but they forgot they were young once. i get sick of young people that think all us older people all think the same way ......lol Edited December 4, 2008 by steptoe
Guest kid mohair Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 My soul snob would be someone like this..........BEEN THERE, GOT THAT, DONE THAT, HAD THAT GOT ANOTHER BETTER ,WHEN THIS ,WHEN THAT, WIGAN WIGAN FOOKING WIGAN.. AND THEY ARE 35, .
Guest kid mohair Posted December 5, 2008 Posted December 5, 2008 oh sorry my mistake i miss read i thought it said soul knob.
Guest WPaulVanDyk Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 Why is it always refering to Wigan. Not everyone went and i am sure a lot of people here did go but my dad never went. Instead was all over Peterborough and some near by like in Leicester. ok to define a soul snob but meetng one is your worst nightmare or not
Mark S Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 All scenes have snobs thats life . f*** em I dont care if its on a cd , vinyl or a hard drive its music its purpose is to uplift and entertain and as long as it does that its ok by me life is to short .
Guest SteveJohnston Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 All scenes have snobs thats life . f*** em I dont care if its on a cd , vinyl or a hard drive its music its purpose is to uplift and entertain and as long as it does that its ok by me life is to short . Mark It's only impotent that tracks played out are OVO to some DJ's and collectors I would say 75% of dancers are not that bothered one way or the other............ but I don't believe it makes anyone a snob wanting OVO.......... IMO Steve J
Guest Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Mark It's only impotent that tracks played out are OVO to some DJ's and collectors I would say 75% of dancers are not that bothered one way or the other............ but I don't believe it makes anyone a snob wanting OVO.......... IMO Steve J i did wonder why the big hang up with some people about OVO - perhaps it's an inferiority complex and they need to prove something in other areas to make up for the lack elswhere
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 i was only saying to the Butler this morning,"When you've cleaned my records,come and read this thread.In your break". Oh how we laughed. Kev, could you send him round so he can give mine a polish..... Funniest thing I've read in ages - just visualizing the white gloves and frock coat - in your livery colours of course
Guest SteveJohnston Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) i did wonder why the big hang up with some people about OVO - perhaps it's an inferiority complex and they need to prove something in other areas to make up for the lack elswhere "A".......................... Edited December 9, 2008 by SteveJohnston
Guest BigPaul Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 i did wonder why the big hang up with some people about OVO - perhaps it's an inferiority complex and they need to prove something in other areas to make up for the lack elswhere So your saying the Top DJs such as Butch Mick H etc have an inferiority complex cos they play OVO and spend thousands on there love of music. I dont think so. Thats why its a privelege to travel the length and breadth of the country to hear these guys play out. Thought this scene was based on Rare Soul Music
Benji Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Catriona, thanks for pointing that out to me. Somebody could've shot me (with a genuine Luger) for committing a social soul blunder - 'bad form' to play tracks from albums???? So that's Clyde McPhatter 'One More Chance' and that Freddy Butler thing on Kapp out the window then Dear oh me....I thought I was a crashing snob for being able to name obscure French dishes made with animals stomach lining but a soul snob - um....I like everything, almost - is that a soul faux pas too far. I'm for the Soul Firing Squad - hand me the blindfold and remember to play 'Make Sure' at my burial and pass on my Matrix Magnifying Glass to the next deserving music lover....Goodbye Cruel Soul World ....damn, I've got to be at Stafford on Saturday - shoot me after that Jo, you have to pay more attention It's about playing tracks that are available on 45 off an album. NOT "album only tracks". But I recall you being snobbish yourself! Remember what you said many many years ago about certain german DJ's playing german cover versions of lousy english pop songs at allnighters?
Guest vinylvixen Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 Jo, you have to pay more attention It's about playing tracks that are available on 45 off an album. NOT "album only tracks". But I recall you being snobbish yourself! Remember what you said many many years ago about certain german DJ's playing german cover versions of lousy english pop songs at allnighters? Sorry Benji, you know I have the attention span of a wasp - now I understand the LP only rule, I'll play my Clyde McPhatter without fear of being burnt at the soul stake Oh no....you've just plunged me into trauma German cover versions of lousy english pop songs.....I thought I'd buried that at the back of my brain - I probably said 'this is a pile of shite'.....was I that polite? I think I had every right to say that being the frightful snob that I am
Guest SteveJohnston Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 (edited) So your saying the Top DJs such as Butch Mick H etc have an inferiority complex cos they play OVO and spend thousands on there love of music. I dont think so. Thats why its a privelege to travel the length and breadth of the country to hear these guys play out. Thought this scene was based on Rare Soul Music Mikecook was just taking the piss out of my post that was a little flaccid to say the least He certainly did not mean it to read as your thinking! Steve J Edited December 9, 2008 by SteveJohnston
barney Posted December 9, 2008 Posted December 9, 2008 So your saying the Top DJs such as Butch Mick H etc have an inferiority complex cos they play OVO and spend thousands on there love of music. I dont think so. Thats why its a privelege to travel the length and breadth of the country to hear these guys play out. Thought this scene was based on Rare Soul Music here we go ,the cult of the dj as come forth , so if your loaded an have all the time in the world to chase up obscure ,rare music .people should be honoured and chase these fookers the length and breadth of the country, IMHO a dunt think so
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