Info: Goldmine Unreleased Test Press 45s

[Guest]

Looking for any/all info on three Goldmine test press 45s:

Ann Robinson - World Of Happiness b/w Instrumental

Ann Byers - I'm Not Gonna Cry Baby b/w Inspirations - Treat Myself To A New Love

Timmy & Empires - Got No Time b/w Timmy & Persianettes - I Want My Lovin From You

Cheers,

Adam.

Edited November 28, 2008 by Guest

[Harry Crosby]

hi adam i have the inspirations unreleased goldmine track, apparently this is the take from the acetate that was originally played,completly different to the ben x cut think it was on mercury? there is a thread about it somewhere from last year, hope this helps -harry

Edited November 29, 2008 by HARRY CROSBY

[steve]

Looking for any/all info on three Goldmine test press 45s:

Ann Robinson - World Of Happiness b/w Instrumental

Ann Byers - I'm Not Gonna Cry Baby b/w Inspirations - Treat Myself To A New Love

Timmy & Empires - Got No Time b/w Timmy & Persianettes - I Want My Lovin From You

Cheers,

Adam.

I've got the Ann Robinson track at home, I'll give you more information later when i finish work

Steve

[Chalky]

hi adam i have the inspirations unreleased goldmine track, apparently this is the take from the acetate that was originally played,completly different to the ben x cut think it was on mercury? there is a thread about it somewhere from last year, hope this helps -harry

Inspirations never released Harry, there are a couple of mercury acetates, Butch and Tim and both different takes. Think it was Dave Brown who put out the Benn-X 45's about 10 years ago. Posted both takes in refosoul in the past.

[Harry Crosby]

Inspirations never released Harry, there are a couple of mercury acetates, Butch and Tim and both different takes. Think it was Dave Brown who put out the Benn-X 45's about 10 years ago. Posted both takes in refosoul in the past.

mornig chalky, yeh think we had this one a few months ago, so there must be a different acetate/tape for the ben x release is there?

[Md Records]

Just a hypothetical question here, and i'm sure that this scenario would never apply to a goldmine product, but what quantity of a test pressing does there have to be, before it is deemed a release, I mean 500 test pressings could be construed as a little over the top! Frank Bendinelli, who owns the "Timmy & Persionettes" and "Ann Byers" tracks hasn't been paid for vinyl releases of these tracks, only the C.D. releases, but as we said, in fairness to Goldmine, I presume they only manufactured a small amount of each title, prior to officially releasing the tracks on either their "Sevens" or "Connoisseurs" imprints. Oh, by the way - I do have copies of both the "Timmy & Persianettes" and "Ann Byers" test pressings available for £10 each, including post & packing.

Des Parker

[steve]

I've got the Ann Robinson track at home, I'll give you more information later when i finish work

Steve

The label is white with the Goldmine/soul supply logo and has No: Title: Artist: but these are not filled in on either side, in the run out groove it says 'Harth 1A D Amont 'and a back to front 5 or could be a 2.

run out groove on the flip side is just the same but has 'Harth 1B'.. These are scatched on not stamped

not sure if this is the information you were after or not

Hope this helps

Got it from the soul nights at Cadburys about 3 or 4 years ago, paid £20 for it, don't know the price of it now or how many were cut

Steve

[Simon T]

Ann Robinson - World Of Happiness b/w Instrumental

Hasn't the Ann Robinson release been 'chopped up' so that the verses are in a bit of a different order to those on Butch's & Andy Rix's studio acetates?

[paultp]

Inspirations never released Harry, there are a couple of mercury acetates, Butch and Tim and both different takes. Think it was Dave Brown who put out the Benn-X 45's about 10 years ago. Posted both takes in refosoul in the past.

Sorry to butt in, is this Benn-X release a legitimate release then?

Gorgeous tune!

[Benji]

The label is white with the Goldmine/soul supply logo and has No: Title: Artist: but these are not filled in on either side, in the run out groove it says 'Harth 1A D Amont 'and a back to front 5 or could be a 2.

run out groove on the flip side is just the same but has 'Harth 1B'.. These are scatched on not stamped

not sure if this is the information you were after or not

Hope this helps

Got it from the soul nights at Cadburys about 3 or 4 years ago, paid £20 for it, don't know the price of it now or how many were cut

Steve

Ann Robinson "World of Happiness" eventually came out on UK Harthon hence the writing in the run-out. The UK Harthon release was done by Goldmine and IMO, is a bootleg.

[steve]

Ann Robinson "World of Happiness" eventually came out on UK Harthon hence the writing in the run-out. The UK Harthon release was done by Goldmine and IMO, is a bootleg.

Why do you think it's boot?

Edited December 11, 2008 by steve

[grant]

Hasn't the Ann Robinson release been 'chopped up' so that the verses are in a bit of a different order to those on Butch's & Andy Rix's studio acetates?

always thought there was a difference Simon

[Md Records]

The "Benn X" release is 100% legal, a collaboration between Frank Bendinelli and Dave Brown, of "Philly Archives". According to Frank, Goldmine never paid for putting his stuff out on "45's" but as stated earlier in this thread, these are "Test Pressings" and not releases. As said earlier, what quantity of "Test Pressings" qualifies it as a release.

Des Parker

[pikeys dog]

The "Benn X" release is 100% legal, a collaboration between Frank Bendinelli and Dave Brown, of "Philly Archives". According to Frank, Goldmine never paid for putting his stuff out on "45's" but as stated earlier in this thread, these are "Test Pressings" and not releases. As said earlier, what quantity of "Test Pressings" qualifies it as a release.

Des Parker

In the UK during the 60s anything below 100 copies weren't subject to royalties payments, as they were classed as Promotional.

Blue Horizons early releases were limited to 99 copies for this very reason...

[Simon T]

Looking for any/all info on three Goldmine test press 45s:

Timmy & Empires - Got No Time b/w Timmy & Persianettes - I Want My Lovin From You

Cheers,

Adam.

If my memory serves me right, this release of 'got no time' is the same as the Impact studio acetate that Carl Fortnum has/had. The mix on the CD is less Spartan, more instrumentation, guitar etc?