Stubbsy Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Don't know whether this has been done before (if it has apologies) but, as such a great very rare record, can anyone give me any further information/history, i.e. when, where discovered? by whom? how many known copies in existence? where first played at? and who else besides Butch has got em? IMO top record on the scene today Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dennisoul Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Don't know whether this has been done before (if it has apologies) but, as such a great very rare record, can anyone give me any further information/history, i.e. when, where discovered? by whom? how many known copies in existence? where first played at? and who else besides Butch has got em? IMO top record on the scene today Stubbsy, first played by Butch covered up as the Del-Larks..."just you and I". First played cica 85/86.....Covered up for at least 10 years. I know of 2 other copies Kitch and Kenny B. There may be another 1/2? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Does anyone have any more info on the group themselves? Or where the label is from? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jumpinjoan Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Does anyone have any more info on the group themselves? Or where the label is from? Pretty sure there was some talk about this a while ago. Can't be arsed looking for it though Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 There may be another 1/2? what another half a copy?.....strange world of rare soul.....is it mint? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 put it on ebay will probably sell for about £2000 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tony Smith Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Does anyone have any more info on the group themselves? Or where the label is from? Wilmington, Delaware owned by James Chavis, or at least a connection to his labels, the Mello Souls had a release on Chavis/Candi as Joan says it's on here somewhere, Chalky will know. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 cool cheers tony Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Wilmington, Delaware owned by James Chavis, or at least a connection to his labels, the Mello Souls had a release on Chavis/Candi as Joan says it's on here somewhere, Chalky will know. steve green has met the lead singer Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gene-r Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 (edited) Des Parker has the original one-sided Dick Charles Studios acetate of this. Edited November 28, 2008 by Gene-R Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
shute Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Anyone know anything about this ???????????????? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Wilmington, Delaware owned by James Chavis, or at least a connection to his labels, the Mello Souls had a release on Chavis/Candi as Joan says it's on here somewhere, Chalky will know. The Candi release is Silus Phifer & Mellow Fellows - Gotta Find My Baby - Candi 1023 b/w Edwin Johnson & Mellow Fellows - You Gave Me Love - Candi 1023 It's not very good, especially compared to We Can Make It. Sound files are in refosoul somewhere as I've posted 'em before. steve green has met the lead singer He was in a home, Silus Phifer. The lyrics for We Can Make It are on the site somewhere, Simon T posted 'em when he was Hippo, anyone find 'em??? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 NO BUT ID LIKE IT gasher Anyone know anything about this ???????????????? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 think youve got a zero missing off the end MULF gasher put it on ebay will probably sell for about £2000 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 been my top record forever since i heard it they dont come no better IMO gasher IMO top record on the scene today Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Val (Chunky) Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Anyone know anything about this ???????????????? I know it's 25 seconds shorter than the issued copy. Where did you get the scan? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 not exactly hard to make it up eh?? 25 secons short ....?? MUST BE an alternate take. gasher Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Silus Phifer & Mellow Fellows - What a fookin name, he sounds like a mass murdered or a ghost or a mass murdering ghost Silus Phifer Has he got a sister called Michelle What a about the one Shifty had. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 not exactly hard to make it up eh?? 25 secons short ....?? MUST BE an alternate take. gasher Humm which 25 seconds from the begging middle or the end. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Manfromsoul45s Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Anyone know anything about this ???????????????? mmmm. that looks dead real.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 I had an EMI disc of Stronger Than Me that was 45 seconds short, I never realized for 30 years I only had half the record until I got the RCA Kent CD Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gasher Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 NOW IN THE HANDS OF KENNY BURRELL FOR A HANDSOME SUM GASHER What a about the one Shifty had. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 mmmm. that looks dead real.. Yes and if you enlarge it you can see the "Mello Souls" info,hand writing underneith the stuck on bell label Dave f......................... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 (edited) Yes and if you enlarge it you can see the "Mello Souls" info,hand writing underneith the stuck on bell label Dave f......................... Wasn't the typing clear enough for them so they had to write it upside down as well, that blood Silus Phifer he's a card. Edited November 29, 2008 by Prophonics 2029 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
shute Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Never said it was real, just something that I picked up, never noticed the hand writing underneath Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Alfie79 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 ARTHUR FENN GOT A COPY...LISTEN THIS SUMMER IN RIMINI Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Chalky Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 ARTHUR FENN GOT A COPY...LISTEN THIS SUMMER IN RIMINI Has he? Don't think I've heard him play it Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tommaso Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 What, an original stock copy? Are you sure about that? Alfie, the one we heard in Rimini was Kitch's one.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 The lyrics for We Can Make It are on the site somewhere, Simon T posted 'em when he was Hippo, anyone find 'em??? Is this a good idea to post the words up, you might get someone doing a new Pinky & Perky version of it if they have this sort of information in their arsenal. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tommaso Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 That would explain it! That said... I'm sure the Rimini Event will be superb, with Arthur playing some really fantastic things! Arthur already played fantastic 45s in Rimini last year.. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Epic Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Is it just me or does antbody else find the record a bit of a mess really? The intro is great but then I think the tune goes all over the place - the vocal harmonies are just not there - bit of an "Emperors New Clothes" record to me - rarity over quality IMHO. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Jaco Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Is it just me or does antbody else find the record a bit of a mess really? The intro is great but then I think the tune goes all over the place - the vocal harmonies are just not there - bit of an "Emperors New Clothes" record to me - rarity over quality IMHO. I think I know what you mean about the messy aspects, but it is a fantastically atmospheric track, perfect for a banging all nighter. Pure adrenalin. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Arthur already played fantastic 45s in Rimini last year.. and the year before last year, and the year before the year before last year .... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I think I know what you mean about the messy aspects, but it is a fantastically atmospheric track, perfect for a banging all nighter. Pure adrenalin. Seconded. Pure Northern Soul, one of my alltime favourites. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Is it just me or does antbody else find the record a bit of a mess really? The intro is great but then I think the tune goes all over the place - the vocal harmonies are just not there - bit of an "Emperors New Clothes" record to me - rarity over quality IMHO. Why do you have to have harmonies, and are you sayings its a rough record or a rough recording you have listened to cause you never hear it played out. I think its perfection and sounds just like the Del-Larks. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Epic Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I think its perfection and sounds just like the Del-Larks. "There's a job opening for an experienced male vocal group" Think I'll stick with Sammy & the boys - now that is quality!!!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 "There's a job opening for an experienced male vocal group" Think I'll stick with Sammy & the boys - now that is quality!!!! I never read the label properly and thought it was a Job Opening For an experience bartender. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Anyone know anything about this ???????????????? Looks like one I did in MS Publisher! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Is it just me or does antbody else find the record a bit of a mess really? The intro is great but then I think the tune goes all over the place - the vocal harmonies are just not there - bit of an "Emperors New Clothes" record to me - rarity over quality IMHO. Agree with you. I do like it, but it's not a favourite of mine and it is very messy probably because of the bad production. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Messy. The only messy bit is the same old bad sound file that is punted around, I have listened to Kitche's copy out and its a different experience. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pete S Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Messy. The only messy bit is the same old bad sound file that is punted around, I have listened to Kitche's copy out and its a different experience. Oh don't start, the whole track is messy, like somene said, listen to the Impressions then listen to this and tell me if it's not messy. I'm not saying thats a bad thing, blimey listen to something like Ton Of Dynamite, the whole things is a mess but it's brilliant. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 TOD is amateurish and most of the Stang Turbo is poor quality n' sounds like it was recorded with bake bean tins and a bit of string and I cannot even begin to compare a record I don't posses to a record I do have. Every record played sounds different so until it turns up in quantity I or we will never know. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Pretty sure there was some talk about this a while ago. Can't be arsed looking for it though There definitely was and as said I'm sure Simon T had a scan of the label. Gold with black lettering. never tire of hearing it, goose bump intro, drum rolls and horns to die for with one of if not the best sax solo break, I think someone mentioned it being a bit messy, I can see their point but when it comes down to brass tacks IMHO that adds to the appeal, soul is about the feeling, and theres plenty of that here, and not the quality of the vocal arrangement, although Impressions fans (and I am one of them) will probably dispute that, used to look forward to the weekend when I knew I was going to hear it somewhere down the country. Kev Spotterty spot on! arsenal. Edited December 3, 2008 by Simsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Corbett80 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 (edited) Without doubt one of the most aggressive soul onslaughts known to man. Utterly awesome record and scruffy vocals and arrangement too which all adds to the charm imho. When the second vocal comes in its game over. Perhaps rivalled in viciousness only by Little Stanley on Vance? Edited December 3, 2008 by mulf Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stubbsy Posted December 3, 2008 Author Share Posted December 3, 2008 IMHO the greatest record to surface over the last 20 odd years, might be putting my balls in the vice but its a topic that does come up often so its no throw away statement. I am a big lover of the group sound and this record has the lot, never tire of hearing it, goose bump intro, drum rolls and horns to die for with one of if not the best sax solo break, I think someone mentioned it being a bit messy, I can see their point but when it comes down to brass tacks IMHO that adds to the appeal, soul is about the feeling, and theres plenty of that here, and not the quality of the vocal arrangement, although Impressions fans (and I am one of them) will probably dispute that, used to look forward to the weekend when I knew I was going to hear it somewhere down the country. Kev I agree with you Kev - when I first heard it I was like woaaaaaah When you hear a record like this for the first time makes you realise why you got into soul in the first place. One of the reasons I'll, hopefully, be at The 100 Club this Saturday keeping my fingers crossed that Butch will spin it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Prophonics 2029 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 For me the recording sounds live and most of the time that's what they were trying to achieve. Anyone know what the B-sides like. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Benji Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Do you guys think it's pointless to ask for a (very) good quality MP3 of Mello Souls? The one I have is of rather low quality but the only one I got hold of and WCMI is sure one of my alltime favourites... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mal C Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 Butch palyed it at the 100 club anniversary back in sept, I literally ran to the Dance floor!!! then ran around it!! Laughs Brilliant track..Does anybody have a scan of the released 45? sad I know but I need it for my i-tunes.. mal Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
KevH Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 For me the recording sounds live and most of the time that's what they were trying to achieve. Anyone know what the B-sides like. ....or sounds "live" cos they didn't have enough money to cover studio time - hence one take,as in so many soul records. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kev Cane Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 ....or sounds "live" cos they didn't have enough money to cover studio time - hence one take,as in so many soul records.Good point Kev, we should also take into consideration that at the time Black music in general wasn,t accepted by the large majority in the U.S.A so consequently most of the music we love was aimed at the black community with the artists aspiring hopefully for a local hit, hence giving it that honest, raw and recordrd in a tin can appeal which gives it that special ingredient that I asume we all love. Kev Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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