Soulsider Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Popsike has three labels for this mighty fine record. - President, Jerhart and Impression. Various prices for all three. The President appears to be the most valued. Copy going on ebay now. Anyone know the story behind these three ? I take it that these are all originals and none are boots? Thanks for any help
Supercorsa Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 I'm sure the Mica version is different to the Jerhart version, as for the other two I can't comment. All I can say is that it went down well when I played it last night.
Chartersoul Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 I'm sure the Mica version is different to the Jerhart version, as for the other two I can't comment. All I can say is that it went down well when I played it last night. JAMES ROBBINS -I CAN,T PLEAE YOU-MICA RECORDS-GREAT TUNE,BUT THE FLIP IS A CRACKING RECORD --ROY WRIGHT--HOOK,LINE & SINKER --ANYBODY KNOW THE REASON FOR TWO DIFFERENT ARTISTS ON THIS RECORD----RICHARD
Supercorsa Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 Ooh, just been looking on John Manships site with regards to this record. One thing that always puzzled me was that I always seem to see copies with "Tomorrows Hits Today" on the label. My problem was that I bought a copy from Shane a few years back for the princely sum of £15 and it didn't have that text on it. However I have just discovered this on Johns Manship site "RAMHORN B.M.I music left hand side. Plain sky blue label with NO tomorrow's hits today text - slogan under the logo. Perhaps it's rarest format." So thank you, Mr Higgins.
vaultofsouler Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 (edited) Popsike has three labels for this mighty fine record. - President, Jerhart and Impression. Various prices for all three. The President appears to be the most valued. Copy going on ebay now. Anyone know the story behind these three ? I take it that these are all originals and none are boots? Thanks for any help I always thought the Impression issue was the "rarest/most valued" issue, not President .... Ooh, just been looking on John Manships site with regards to this record. One thing that always puzzled me was that I always seem to see copies with "Tomorrows Hits Today" on the label. My problem was that I bought a copy from Shane a few years back for the princely sum of £15 and it didn't have that text on it. However I have just discovered this on Johns Manship site "RAMHORN B.M.I music left hand side. Plain sky blue label with NO tomorrow's hits today text - slogan under the logo. Perhaps it's rarest format." So thank you, Mr Higgins. Ian.... see above re rarest format.... Jerhart issues were either pale green (? differing shades) and pale blue (? differing shades), with or without the "logo".... Pale blue DJ copies with no logo "supposed" to be rarest of the Jerhart issues .... Edited November 22, 2008 by vaultofsouler
Premium Stuff Posted November 22, 2008 Posted November 22, 2008 This is one of my all time faves - it is a truly awesome outing with a superb vocal - ooommmpphh!! Richard
boba Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 Popsike has three labels for this mighty fine record. - President, Jerhart and Impression. Various prices for all three. The President appears to be the most valued. Copy going on ebay now. Anyone know the story behind these three ? I take it that these are all originals and none are boots? Thanks for any help i think jerhart is the original label, there are several label variations also. even though it is now the most indemand version, i actually think the impression is a reissue (but I'm open to be told otherwise). I think it's a case of the reissue being rarer than the original and people assuming it's original. the mica / roy wright thing was probably an attempt by Bob Lee to cash in a second time when he started working with Al Benson / Crash.
Sjclement Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 This is one of my all time faves - it is a truly awesome outing with a superb vocal - ooommmpphh!! Richard A totaly blinding stomper a true nasty northern sound if ever there was one. I first heard this on you tube, a short snippet of a club somewhere featuring a fantastic dancer back dropping and doing the splits to it.Added to the excitement of the track Alas I can't find that snippet anyone help?
Dave Pinch Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 was it booted on jerhart? i just thought it was common with several label variations and sold very well stateside, which is probably why it came out on president over here as its a contemporary release. I also think its the first label but not sure if impression is b4 mica or vice versa. dave
KevH Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 The President one is imo the most collectable. Always under the impression that the Mica one was a re-issue (differing artists usually is the case?).As BobA says,probably cashing in later. Is the Impression release also 20 secs or so longer?. Off to check my Jerhart copy .
Rupert Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 The President one is imo the most collectable. came out on uk and canadian president. i'll put a scan of the canadian when i get a chance. rupert
Guest Brett F Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 4 different Jerhart labels, light blue,mid green,pale green and the tomorrows hits. Impression and Mica labels fetch three figures, others around £20-£30. And yes fantastic record, not sure what mine is on Jerhart, i remember it being pale blue.
Mach Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 was it booted on jerhart? i just thought it was common with several label variations and sold very well stateside, which is probably why it came out on president over here as its a contemporary release. I also think its the first label but not sure if impression is b4 mica or vice versa. dave yep..unless some one can be certain otherwise, and i know a dealer who was selling them reissues pale yellow label,styrene..cant see him dropping a b*llock
Guest Richard Bergman Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) The flip "I made it over" is an interesting deep soul side that made it onto Dave Godin's much lauded "Deep Soul Treasures" anthology. I presume the track appeared on all of the records various guises ? Edited November 23, 2008 by Richard Bergman
Guest Brett F Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 The flip "I made it over" is an interesting deep soul side that made it onto Dave Godin's much lauded "Deep Soul Treasures" anthology. I presume the track appeared on all of the records various guises ? Yes Richard mate, except for the Mica 45' that flip was ."Hook Line and Sinker"
Steve Edgar Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 here a scan of the Jerhart "tomorrows hits today" label in pale green, and the Mica label. note the different spelling of name. and different running times. but the 2016-A number is the same on both releases. steve
Guest Brett F Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 This is such a great value for money record it just shows you don't have to pay top dollar to get fabulous soul records.
Guest Brett F Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) Anyone got a soundfile, my copies are stored away and i cannot be bothered to find it, but i want to hear it again. Brett sorry just seen toads refo file. Edited November 23, 2008 by Brett F
Rupert Posted November 23, 2008 Posted November 23, 2008 (edited) here's the candian copy Edited November 23, 2008 by rupert
Pomonkey Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 Pushing the rarity label, there's 2 cover versions, one, bizarrely, in Spanish - actually more specifically think in Catalan - which is good but just interesting, but the must-have is a US, probably blue-eyed powerhouse version, only know of handful of copies so far which is funny as it's on a "known" label, can be heard on one of DJ Honky's excellent mix cd's that a lot of people here were the happy recipients of, have a spare in trades box.
michael-j Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 not forgetting the Loading Zone version, so that's at least three cover versions then
Guest Eddies Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 wasn't the Mica flip...hook,line n sinker covered by Guy H at Stafford as Bobby Lee and the crash sounds?
Guest Posted November 24, 2008 Posted November 24, 2008 I have the one on Mica and its a slightly different cut with a rougher, more edgy feel.....slightly longer but reason for that, it could be slightly slower. The Roy Wright flip is also excellent and one you dont hear around, ive never heard it played anywhere apart from the odd time I throw it in.
Nick Hackett Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 JIMMY ROBINS I JUST CAN'T PLEASE YOU IMPRESSION 108
Rick Scott Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 JIMMY ROBINS I JUST CAN'T PLEASE YOU IMPRESSION 108 Ian Clarke used to sell these at the Yarmuff Weekenders either £5 or £8 can't remember off hand, with having it on jerhart did not bother with it as was told it was a reissue ? Rick Scott
Pomonkey Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 Have the Roy Wright too, I've occasionally as a private joke for myself played the blue-eyed cover of the Jimmy Robbins back to back with it, silly I know but hey
Anoraks Corner Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) According to the trade advert at the time, it had sold 25,000 copies on Jerhart! Have a look for yourself...plenty of original trade adverts to view on my site here: >>> Northern Soul Adverts <<< >>> Detroit Adverts <<< Enjoy! Edited November 26, 2008 by Anoraks Corner
boba Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 According to the trade advert at the time, it had sold 25,000 copies on Jerhart! Have a look for yourself...plenty of original trade adverts to view on my site here: >>> Northern Soul Adverts <<< >>> Detroit Adverts <<< Enjoy! it charted nationally on billboard R&B, it was bob lee's only hit record ever.
Garethx Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Boba: do you have any idea of how Bob Lee came to release this in Chicago? Jimmy Robbins was a Californian artist and I've always been led to believe that Impression was the first, Californian release of a Californian recording. Having said that, it's an almost definitive example of 'Chicago-style' hard soul in the vein of an Otis Clay or Harold Burrage, explaining its popularity in that market.
Guest Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 4 different Jerhart labels, light blue,mid green,pale green and the tomorrows hits. Impression and Mica labels fetch three figures, others around £20-£30. And yes fantastic record, not sure what mine is on Jerhart, i remember it being pale blue. And red ones aswell
boba Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 Boba: do you have any idea of how Bob Lee came to release this in Chicago? Jimmy Robbins was a Californian artist and I've always been led to believe that Impression was the first, Californian release of a Californian recording. Having said that, it's an almost definitive example of 'Chicago-style' hard soul in the vein of an Otis Clay or Harold Burrage, explaining its popularity in that market. are you sure jimmy robbins was a california artist? I thought he was in Chicago and later moved to California. My friend did talk to him as he licensed the Patrizia and Jimmy record on ALA for his kiddie soul comp. I guess I could potentially call him and ask him if it was important. Either way, you could be right about the impression release being first, it definitely charted on jerhart and doesn't it have bob lee's publishing on all the other releases? Either way Bob Lee did have LA connections so it would make sense as he rerelased Billy Watkins' 45 on Jerhart and he was an LA artist.
boba Posted November 26, 2008 Posted November 26, 2008 are you sure jimmy robbins was a california artist? I thought he was in Chicago and later moved to California. My friend did talk to him as he licensed the Patrizia and Jimmy record on ALA for his kiddie soul comp. I guess I could potentially call him and ask him if it was important. Either way, you could be right about the impression release being first, it definitely charted on jerhart and doesn't it have bob lee's publishing on all the other releases? Either way Bob Lee did have LA connections so it would make sense as he rerelased Billy Watkins' 45 on Jerhart and he was an LA artist. i looked at the scans in the thread and I see they all don't have bob lee's publishing so you might be right. I guess he just had LA contacts (e.g. there was that billy watkins thing).
Supercorsa Posted December 1, 2008 Posted December 1, 2008 JIMMY ROBINS I JUST CAN'T PLEASE YOU IMPRESSION 108 Tim Brown has a white demo up for sale at £250!
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