I Honestly Would Like To Know

[Md Records]

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Des Parker

[Guest belly chest]

Have read and inwardly digested this thread for the last 30odd years off and on. so just to play devils advocate i,ll throw this one ,sound crews often get it in the neck about poor systems when in fact its the media that is causing most the problems, when your dealing with 20 - 30 year old media its some time difficult to iron out the imperfections, also theres the venue imperfections to take into account as well wooden sprung floors stages that have seen better days ect ect not always the media granted but how often do you hear "sh***e system this when in fact its pressings, damaged media ect.

Please dont shoot me for this but c.d,s are much more user friendly and if you want the scratches and pops theres programs now that can put them in for you

[Guest john s]

Have read and inwardly digested this thread for the last 30odd years off and on. so just to play devils advocate i,ll throw this one ,sound crews often get it in the neck about poor systems when in fact its the media that is causing most the problems, when your dealing with 20 - 30 year old media its some time difficult to iron out the imperfections, also theres the venue imperfections to take into account as well wooden sprung floors stages that have seen better days ect ect not always the media granted but how often do you hear "sh***e system this when in fact its pressings, damaged media ect.

Please dont shoot me for this but c.d,s are much more user friendly and if you want the scratches and pops theres programs now that can put them in for you

Or you could just use an ipod - don't have to bother with the cd players then, either.

[Guest KEN-SOUL]

Have read and inwardly digested this thread for the last 30odd years off and on. so just to play devils advocate i,ll throw this one ,sound crews often get it in the neck about poor systems when in fact its the media that is causing most the problems, when your dealing with 20 - 30 year old media its some time difficult to iron out the imperfections, also theres the venue imperfections to take into account as well wooden sprung floors stages that have seen better days ect ect not always the media granted but how often do you hear "sh***e system this when in fact its pressings, damaged media ect.

Please dont shoot me for this but c.d,s are much more user friendly and if you want the scratches and pops theres programs now that can put them in for you

SOME OF US WERE DANCERS! NOT COLLECTERS.

[Spacehopper]

just saying that the tunes listed are not so unknown, that was all. just like a yo yo was one of my favourite tracks years ago - and i still love hearing it now

but thats another great thing about soul no one can ever know all the tunes out there...im often surprised at long time soulies and even dealers who dont know certain tunes.....only recently on this site there were threads about judy cleys busting my mind,betty swann lonely love,fontella bass i cant rest...all cheap 'common' tunes but quite a lot of people didnt know them ....i bought jackey beavers hold on and esquires how could it be off a dj/dealer who didnt know them but they arent rare....and sometimes ive been out and everyone on the dancefloor seems to know the words of a tune except me !!...

as for yo yo how many times do you actually hear it out nowadays compared to just loving you....which is the whole point cos if ALL venues allowed boots you would probably hear a even more djs playing JLY !!

[Guest]

but thats another great thing about soul no one can ever know all the tunes out there...im often surprised at long time soulies and even dealers who dont know certain tunes.....only recently on this site there were threads about judy cleys busting my mind,betty swann lonely love,fontella bass i cant rest...all cheap 'common' tunes but quite a lot of people didnt know them ....i bought jackey beavers hold on and esquires how could it be off a dj/dealer who didnt know them but they arent rare....and sometimes ive been out and everyone on the dancefloor seems to know the words of a tune except me !!...

as for yo yo how many times do you actually hear it out nowadays compared to just loving you....which is the whole point cos if ALL venues allowed boots you would probably hear a even more djs playing JLY !!

i've probably been off of the scene too long I have to agree with your sentiments. 3 of the five you have mentioned there are sat in my box and are what i would have considered overplayed as they were common sounds when i was attending events regularly. just recently i seen on another forum a discussion about Jeanie Fortune - once more with feeling and was surprised that all those involved in the discussion did not know it. amazing really as i hammered it around bournemouth for years after hearing it at Wigan; and the forum discussing it was from that area (Bmth)

I've been into the music for over 30 years and there are hundreds i dont recognize. so i guess what is overplayed to one may be a 'due for reactivation' for another.

Edited November 20, 2008 by mikecook

[Guest mel brat]

Essentially you're right. The record collecting passion has nothing at all to do with the quality of the music - except that WITHOUT the ever obsessive collectors, Northern Soul would probably never have happened!

Obviously it was the passion for discovering the (previously) unknown that unearthed most of the records that have continued to sustain the scene over the years, and which remember are drawn on to actually compile the many current compilation CDs on Northern Soul!

Bootlegs, to my mind are despicable rip-offs to everyone concerned, particularly the artists. Personally, I have no problem with (new) CD tracks being played, or indeed legal reissues of particularly rare sides. (However, I suspect I'm in a minority on that one) One objection to that view may be - in regard to rare Soul - few people would be prepared to travel to a venue that regularly played records one could hear at home or from any local DJ who simply had a collection of reissues!

Traveling to hear records you couldn't hear elsewhere was the original attraction of the Northern Scene, and by extension the Rare 70s scene too.

Collecting endless label variations, matrix codes, West Coast/East Coast pressings, Demos/Stock copies et.al. is part of the collector's vocabulary, and has little to do with Soul music per.se., though it all helps to disseminate information to do with a particular artist's recording history and has a curious habit of leading to further exciting discoveries!

The short answer though, is that we're all just a teensy bit eccentric. (To put it mildly!)

Edited November 21, 2008 by mel brat

[Guest]

Essentially you're right. The record collecting passion has nothing at all to do with the quality of the music - except WITHOUT the ever obsessive collectors, Northern Soul would probably never have happened!

Obviously it was the passion for discovering the (previously) unknown that unearthed most of the records that have continued to sustain the scene over the years, and which remember are drawn on to actually compile the many current compilation CDs on Northern Soul!

Bootlegs, to my mind are dispicable rip-offs to everyone concerned, particularly the artists. Personally, I have no problem with (new) CD tracks being played, or indeed legal reissues of particularly rare sides. (However, I suspect I'm in a minority on that one) One objection to that view may be - in regard to rare Soul - few people would be prepared to travel to a venue that regularly played records one could hear at home or from any local DJ who simply had a collection of reissues!

Traveling to hear records you couldn't hear elsewhere was the original attraction of the Northern Scene, and by extension the Rare 70s scene too.

Collecting endless label variations, matrix codes, West Coast/East Coast pressings, Demos/Stock copies et.al. is part of the collector's vocabulary, and has little to do with Soul music per.se., though it all helps to disseminate information to do with a particular artist's recording history and has a curious habit of leading to further exciting discoveries!

The short answer though, is that we're all just a teensy bit eccentric. (To put it mildly!)

i can go with eccentric - its better than what my old phyciatrist called me

[Dave Moore]

The short answer though, is that we're all just a teensy bit eccentric. (To put it mildly!)

And thank God for that!

[Guest WPaulVanDyk]

Some people go out and not bother what format a song is played from. but to me original is better after all in most music styles you buy the original. Just that Northern soul has crazy prices for records

Then the fact that most Northern Soul records get re-issued. but what about songs released not on vinyl but cd only where do we stand on that, as Modern tunes may not always be vinyl released, but that is rare.

[Spacehopper]

as for yo yo how many times do you actually hear it out nowadays compared to just loving you....which is the whole point cos if ALL venues allowed boots you would probably hear a even more djs playing JLY !!