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Guest Andy Kempster
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whats the going rate on this bad boy?

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US or UK?......issue or Demo?..........theres also a 33 RPM version of the "Discotheqoe 66" series which came out on a 12 inch sampler.

I sold my UK demo to a member on here a while back to buy the UK issue.

US issue, around the £200 £250 mark, UK Demo £250-£300.....UK issue (Dog rare!) £400-£450

Someone could have a different idea on prices but at the end of the day its what someones prepared to pay.

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Guest Andy Kempster
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US or UK?......issue or Demo?..........theres also a 78 RPM version of the "Discotheqoe 66" series which came out on a 10 inch I think.

I sold my UK demo to a member on here a while back to buy the UK issue.

US issue, around the £200 £250 mark, UK Demo £250-£300.....UK issue (Dog rare!) £400-£450

Someone could have a different idea on prices but at the end of the day its what someones prepared to pay.

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being the tight arse that i am i would be looking for the cheapest format so i would guess that would be the US issue, is it true that there is a boot with the name spelt differently...??? patton intead of patten? or vice versa?

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being the tight arse that i am i would be looking for the cheapest format so i would guess that would be the US issue, is it true that there is a boot with the name spelt differently...??? patton intead of patten? or vice versa?

Found the thread ALL about this monster!

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/Alexand...ton#entry664596

Actually ive seen the UK demo go for £400 recently ohmy.gif

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being the tight arse that i am i would be looking for the cheapest format so i would guess that would be the US issue, is it true that there is a boot with the name spelt differently...??? patton intead of patten? or vice versa?

Bootleg has the title on two lines Andy.

Guest SteveJohnston
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US or UK?......issue or Demo?..........theres also a 78 RPM version of the "Discotheqoe 66" series which came out on a 10 inch I think.

I sold my UK demo to a member on here a while back to buy the UK issue.

US issue, around the £200 £250 mark, UK Demo £250-£300.....UK issue (Dog rare!) £400-£450

Someone could have a different idea on prices but at the end of the day its what someones prepared to pay.

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thumbsup.gif .........................most of the red pen now gone Steve :sleep3:

About spot on with the price IMO. UK issue is very rare but the demo is not that easy to pick up also.

Steve J

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being the tight arse that i am i would be looking for the cheapest format so i would guess that would be the US issue, is it true that there is a boot with the name spelt differently...??? patton intead of patten? or vice versa?

there's supposed to be a real one with surname spelt Patton but has anyone ever seen one?

Guest Andy Kempster
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there's supposed to be a real one with surname spelt Patton but has anyone ever seen one?

so does that mean the US issue has the title all on one line and the name spelt PATTEN and not Patton

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US or UK?......issue or Demo?..........theres also a 78 RPM version of the "Discotheqoe 66" series which came out on a 10 inch I think.

I sold my UK demo to a member on here a while back to buy the UK issue.

US issue, around the £200 £250 mark, UK Demo £250-£300.....UK issue (Dog rare!) £400-£450

Someone could have a different idea on prices but at the end of the day its what someones prepared to pay.

:sleep3:

Sold my UK issue and kept the Demo - I just love the RW demo !!

Also got a mint US issue - would sell for the right price ( US Capitol sleeve initialled by the man himself at prestwich a couple of years ago) thumbup.gif

Julian

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Sold my UK issue and kept the Demo - I just love the RW demo !!

Also got a mint US issue - would sell for the right price ( US Capitol sleeve initialled by the man himself at prestwich a couple of years ago) thumbup.gif

Julian

This is one of those minefields like the Exuse Trek saga.....

The Canadian issue is usually a very reasonable price also.

Hi Julian :sleep3:

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:sleep3: .........................most of the red pen now gone Steve :huh:

About spot on with the price IMO. UK issue is very rare but the demo is not that easy to pick up also.

Steve J

Hi Steve, you will have to PM me the details of how you did this, I often pulled it out thinking I would have a go but didnt have the nerve unsure.gif

What I never understood was how the hell it plays so damn good......crisp as .....errm.....a really crispy thing! rolleyes.gif

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Bootleg has the title on two lines Andy.

So does the original Canadian issue, maybe why that one is more reasonably priced?

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Cheapest way to get the track is on the 'Capitol Soul Casino' LP which came out in the UK in the mid 1970s which also has a host of Capitol 'biggies of the time' including Nancy Wilson, Jay D. Martin, Al DeLory, Bobby Paris, Patrice Holloway, Thelma Houston, Sam Williams, etc.

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so does that mean the US issue has the title all on one line and the name spelt PATTEN and not Patton

Are these of any help ?

Malc Burton

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so does that mean the US issue has the title all on one line and the name spelt PATTEN and not Patton

The USA Originals were by Alexander Patten

There was no Demo of this release in the USA.

When it was released in the UK they changed the spelling to Alexander PattOn.

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The USA Originals were by Alexander Patten

There was no Demo of this release in the USA.

When it was released in the UK they changed the spelling to Alexander PattOn.

Not strictly true about there being no US demo.

Alexander Patten was issued in the US in 1966 on one of a series of white label Capitol promotional 12" distributed only to US radio stations containing various artists from various musical genres.

These 12" promos are very rare and collectible in their own right and their sound quality is far superior to the standard 7" releases.

Others in this series of Capitol promotional LPs featured such tracks as Bobby Paris "I Walked Away" and Patrice Holloway's "Stolen Hours" and HB Barnum's "Heartbreaker" and the Checkmates "Kissin Her and Crying" etc ...

Also interesting in light of the long held perception amongst soul fans over the years that the major labels like RCA and MGM etc never knew or really cared to promote their soul/RnB output throughout the 60's and 70's.

These LPs are if nothing else evidence that Capitol was at least testing the waters with radio stations on soul and RnB tracks that were being released by the label ...

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Sold my UK issue and kept the Demo - I just love the RW demo !!

Also got a mint US issue - would sell for the right price ( US Capitol sleeve initialled by the man himself at prestwich a couple of years ago) :thumbup:

Julian

I've still got your original red & White UK copy you had at the Wheel Julian :thumbup:

hope you are well

Rob

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Bootleg has the title on two lines Andy.

Steve,

Not exactly right but close, you need to read the complete info on the counterfeit in the MANSHIPS NEW PRICE GUIDE 5.

It was pressed by Capitol using both the AIM matrix & the DAISY matrix. It was also pressed by Capitol with the title on one line & on two lines.

Full exact info is in PG5

John

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Steve,

Not exactly right but close, you need to read the complete info on the counterfeit in the MANSHIPS NEW PRICE GUIDE 5.

It was pressed by Capitol using both the AIM matrix & the DAISY matrix. It was also pressed by Capitol with the title on one line & on two lines.

Full exact info is in PG5

John

Is the one on two lines spelt PATTON John ? I've just looked at edition three and it says that this was the case but but you ask has anybody seen a copy?. Has one now deffo turned up ?

I'll get v5 soon John.

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I've still got your original red & White UK copy you had at the Wheel Julian :g:

hope you are well

Rob

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :ohmy::ohmy::lol::lol::g::lol::Dboxing.gif

Yes, well thank you

Cheers

Julian :thumbsup:

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Alexander Patten was issued in the US in 1966 on one of a series of white label Capitol promotional 12" distributed only to US radio stations containing various artists from various musical genres.

Good information, although I meant there was no 7" 45 demo, like the light green label demo or the white label with the blue writing demo.

Intresting about the 12" promotional demo, as I often wondered how Capitol promoted the releases that they did not demo with a standard 7" disc.

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Is the one on two lines spelt PATTON John ? I've just looked at edition three and it says that this was the case but but you ask has anybody seen a copy?. Has one now deffo turned up ?

I'll get v5 soon John.

The USA releases where both spelt Patten. The only ones spelt Patton are UK copies.

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